This team will not win the NCAA

[irishcat1965]

etown, your exactly right. When someone says something that is taken as negative against Cal, all the ones who are drinking the Kool Aid start criticizing you. Cal is the best recruiter in the college BB. In seven year, not counting 2017, he has had the No.1 class every year by some poll. In that seven years, he has won 1 NC, Vill. 1, Louisville !, Duke 2 and Conn. 2, by two different coaches. Probably like you, I bleed Blue, and have been watching UK since 1951. I went to UK, and moved back to Ky. from Seattle while flying with Northwest Airlines, so my children would go to UK, and my 3 Grand children who are enrolled at UK, and attend all the games, the SEC tournament and the NCAA Tournament with me. So HELL NO, I'm not a troll, but I face facts. Do I want to get rid of Cal, ABSOLUTELY NOT, but I would like to see some of the players stay more then one year. I'm tired of hearing how young we are. Other teams are winning NC's without all the "one and done's". There are some good players who will make the pros, who are not 5 stars, but will need more then one year. When all we get are 5 stars, their gone in one year.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

He has done more at UK during a 7 year period than any other coach in UK history except Rupp. In history. Not Pimptino. Not Smith. Not Hall. No one. Your expectations are flawed and totally inconsistent with any coach in UK history except Rupp. And Rupp never won another title after 1958. UK has won only 4 titles in the past 59 years. Cal has one of them in 7 years. I can assure you he is WAY AHEAD of the curve.

 

[CalsKittens]

He has done more at UK during a 7 year period than any other coach in UK history except Rupp. In history. Not Pimptino. Not Smith. Not Hall. No one. Your expectations are flawed and totally inconsistent with any coach in UK history except Rupp. And Rupp never won another title after 1958. UK has won only 4 titles in the past 59 years. Cal has one of them in 7 years. I can assure you he is WAY AHEAD of the curve.

It's our society and the me generations way of thinking. I want what I want and I want it now! If you can't give it to me you suck! Real life isn't a video game.

 

[BoNicholas]

I'm not the one saying they definitely can't win the title. You are.

Show me where I said definitively that they are not winning a title. I'll wait.

 

[irishcat1965]

Show me where I said definitively that they are not winning a title. I'll wait.

You are right. You said "they are beginning look like a team that is not going to get there." Which I assume means they wouldn't win the title.

 

[UKCAT5FAN]

I'l freaking answer your question.

Simply put, UK has improved at every aspect of the game. But you know what? So has everyone else. Yet, we are still blowing out good teams.

You can't tell me that Wenyen doesn't look way better than he did even 2 weeks ago.

Do I even need to explain to you how far Bam has come?

Fox and Monk are most definitely better than they were in November, deny that if you want, but they most certainly are better.

Also, our defense is far better than it was.
But you know what? We are in conference play, how do you not get that, conference play, regardless of what league you are in, is extremely hard, especially on the road.

2015 UK allowed Ole Miss to take them to OT in Rupp. Welcome to conference play bitches.

My goodness, UK just didn't bring their heart last night. F-ing leave it at that. UT took whatever heart they had with their toughness. They were ready, we weren't. It's just that simple man. It really is. Stop trying to make more out of it than what it is.

But if you can't tell the difference in improved efficiency and individual play from November til now, than we can't help you.

I'm sorry to be that blunt, I realize it might hurt your feelings, I like you as a poster, but I'm just being honest, I really am.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to sit quietly in a room and come to grips with the realization that there are UK fans that think this team hasn't improved since November. It's really sad.

Well said. Some people just don't understand a thing about college basketball. EVERY SINGLE championship team has dropped league road games to far less superior teams that they should've beaten easily. It's just the nature of the beast.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Who's the one on their own island arguing with several people in this thread?
Here's a hint: not me.

Now, your question was answered, doesn't matter by who, I answered it.

You obviously don't like the answer, but that wasn't part of the criteria. You asked Irish to answer your question, you didn't say "answer the question and make it so I agree with the answer".

Eh, I don't know about that. If you read the thread, it's about even.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

I think you should do yourself a favor and reread your posts.

Show me where I said Cal was at fault.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

This team or any other UK doesn't have to come together on your timeline- your timeline of development is irrelevant. Its Cal's timetable of development that matters. Only his. Now if this team flames out in March, then he can definitely be questioned or the team can be questioned that improvement wasn't made. He has proven it before that adjustments will be made by March. You insist the changes should be made by now which is total arrogance on your part. As far as speaking about basketball knowledge, I can only laugh at you. Because Cal is a Hall of Fame coach who knows more basketball than you could ever dream to know or will ever know.

I never once mentioned the coach. There are a lot of things that happen on a team that the Coach can't control. I believe what's happening this year is just one of those things. I haven't said anything about Cal, yet you assume that I have. Show me where I've said anything about him or not being behind him. The closest thing you'll find is where I said we might need to recruit experienced role players as well as stud freshman. That's it.

As far as the rest, I guess we will just agree to disagree. I hope I am wrong and if I am, I will gladly admit that I was. I hope you will do the same, but I highly doubt it based on our conversation.

 

[kyjeff1]

Eh, I don't know about that. If you read the thread, it's about even.

LOL. This made me laugh. Not at you, with you.

 

[irishcat1965]

I never once mentioned the coach. There are a lot of things that happen on a team that the Coach can't control. I believe what's happening this year is just one of those things. I haven't said anything about Cal, yet you assume that I have. Show me where I've said anything about him or not being behind him. The closest thing you'll find is where I said we might need to recruit experienced role players as well as stud freshman. That's it.

As far as the rest, I guess we will just agree to disagree. I hope I am wrong and if I am, I will gladly admit that I was. I hope you will do the same, but I highly doubt it based on our conversation.

Nice call on UCLA being a team to win it all when UK can't. They have lost two games in a row and have given up an average of 90 points a game in those games. It definitely shows that "improvement" you are looking for in UK. [roll]

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Nice call on UCLA being a team to win it all when UK can't. They have lost two games in a row and have given up an average of 90 points a game in those games. It definitely shows that "improvement" you are looking for in UK. [roll]

Well they were good enough to beat us at Rupp. We will see what happens in March. Again, I hope you're right. But if you're not, I hope you'll come back and admit you were wrong too. I know I will.

 

[irishcat1965]

Well they were good enough to beat us at Rupp. We will see what happens in March. Again, I hope you're right. But if you're not, I hope you'll come back and admit you were wrong too. I know I will.

That was in December. All you talked about was improvement. Tell us how UCLA has improved for them to be a title contender?

 

[144catfan]

The UConn team that beat us in NatChamp a few years ago looked like garbage and got beat by UL by 30+ in January.

Some of you need to remember - nothing matters until March.

And some need to remember nothing matters unless you cut down the nets. And the truth is K has done it twice since Cal has been here.

 

[rivercatinfl]

It is just a loss. UT was hungry. They will revert back for their next 5 and probably lose 3 of them. I was questioning this teams ability to win it all before this loss. Something just seems to be missing. Can't put my finger on it.

 

[rivercatinfl]

I so agree. Something does seem missing like a Miller as 6 man who can contribute.
Love these Cats but they need a stud 4 man, although Miller was really a 3. Had hoped Willis could deliver.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

That was in December. All you talked about was improvement. Tell us how UCLA has improved for them to be a title contender?

Tell us how we would beat them today. I think they would still beat us, even with Monk.

 

[irishcat1965]

Tell us how we would beat them today. I think they would still beat us, even with Monk.

Of course you would. Because you look negatively at UK on everything and not on other teams. I notice you dodged the question on how have they improved. Know why? Because your entire premise of improving by this time in the season is total BS and you know it.

 

[TheOtherGreatOne]

You could say this team won't win the ncaa tournament about all 353 teams and you would only be wrong one time. That would mean you would be rite 352 times. Those are pretty good odds of you being rite.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Of course you would. Because you look negatively at UK on everything and not on other teams. I notice you dodged the question on how have they improved. Know why? Because your entire premise of improving by this time in the season is total BS and you know it.

Hey Irish, care to respond to me now? I don't want to hear the normal 'fan' crap, either.

This Kansas team didn't even have Bragg and still beat us at home. Bottom line, this team just isn't as good as they should be. As I've told you before, the same things keep happening to this team.

The don't play defense. They have low basketball IQ. They play selfish basketball.


This is a Sweet 16 team AT BEST. Personally, we'll be lucky to get out of the first weekend.

 

[etowncatfan]

Like I said. No championship this year

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Nice call on UCLA being a team to win it all when UK can't. They have lost two games in a row and have given up an average of 90 points a game in those games. It definitely shows that "improvement" you are looking for in UK. [roll]

Nice call on just about everything you said about Kansas and Kentucky, too.

I saw it coming, though.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Of course you would. Because you look negatively at UK on everything and not on other teams. I notice you dodged the question on how have they improved. Know why? Because your entire premise of improving by this time in the season is total BS and you know it.

I never dodged any question on how we improved. Do you know why? WE HAVEN'T IMPROVED AT ALL THIS YEAR.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

LOL. This made me laugh. Not at you, with you.

Jeff, I'm actually laughing now.

 

[Randy Bob]

If this team cannot give a better effort playing Kan. tonight in front of 20 000+ fans and millions at home, some is very wrong..

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Kansas just got scorched for 85 and will lose to UK this weekend.

Hey, where ya at?

 

[irishcat1965]

Hey, where ya at?

My uncle died and I had to go tell my mother. Being in here was the farthest thing from my mind. So you can go F yourself jackass.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I hope this thread gets bumped until the end of the season so that when we win it all, everyone can see how silly this was

 

[kevcat]

Why You say??? Because after 20 games they have not bought into the idea that you have to play defense. Yes they can score but as in all our losses we scored plenty of points to win,but the other team out scored us. UCLA has the offensive players to do it,but Tennessee and Louisville do not if you play average to good defense. You can get to the round of 16 without any defense but that is as far as you will go. In fact right now I can see UL going further than us on their defense alone. This may be the fallacy of the one and done player. His mind set is always showing his offensive skills so he can quickly go to the NBA. So if you are a Kentucky Fan I wouldn't get your hopes up too high.

Things can change quickly.

Don't give up yet.

 

[etowncatfan]

I hope this thread gets bumped until the end of the season so that when we win it all, everyone can see how silly this was

This quote is how the team has played up to this point. Could they get their act together and learn to play defense. Sure but not likely. Could they get the right matchups with alot of upsets of better defensive teams. Sure it happens. The BEST overall team doesn't always win the NCAA. Just ask Antawn Jamison and Vince Carter.

 

[blubo]

Bettors in vegas still like our chances.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/futures/

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

My uncle died and I had to go tell my mother. Being in here was the farthest thing from my mind. So you can go F yourself jackass.

Sorry to hear about that. Those things always put things in perspective.

Hope you and your family are doing ok.

 

[irishcat1965]

Sorry to hear about that. Those things always put things in perspective.

Hope you and your family are doing ok.

Fair enough and thank you.

 

[HenryMuto]

If Murray had not re-classified and was on this team assuming Monk, Fox and Briscoe would still here has as well then this team would be the National title favorite. For how exciting last year was with Murray it been better to have been a worse team last year and then won a championship this year. Stating the obvious I know.

 

[Panthur]

Every time I see the title of this thread (same with the dupe from a few months back) I laugh a little bit out my nose.

We're not guaranteed a title win. How horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

 

[Panthur]

In the name of charity I'll say I don't even find any of the OP's takes outrageous, even though I have different conclusions myself. But the title just gut-punches me with laughter.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

This quote is how the team has played up to this point. Could they get their act together and learn to play defense. Sure but not likely. Could they get the right matchups with alot of upsets of better defensive teams. Sure it happens. The BEST overall team doesn't always win the NCAA. Just ask Antawn Jamison and Vince Carter.

Then there's no point in saying it really.

As if Cal's teams haven't historically played their best basketball come March.

 

[etowncatfan]

Then there's no point in saying it really.

As if Cal's teams haven't historically played their best basketball come March.

Still highly unlikely. We came close to dropping our 3rd game in a row and it could have been 4. Florida is smelling blood in the water. Will be tough to win down there. We won't if we don't have Fox. This game should have been easily won at home even without him. But I will take the win.

 

[Whatsup]

I think we bring number 9 home this year. I don't see any team in the top 10 that can handle our boys. Kyle Macy and Dan Issel were red hot last game. The Goose is unstoppable and Davis is the best guard UK has ever had. When you have Rick Roby and Mike Phillips coming off the bench no team has an answer that their height and outside shooting. I coach Rupp is getting old but he is still one of the best coaches in the game. Cal is one of the best assistant coaches in the game and I could see him taking Rupp's place when he retires. Has anyone heard anything on Rex and why he did not play last night? Mr. Prince has to be the best 3 point shooter in the country this year. I thing at last count he had hit 60 three's out of a possible 90 that he has taken. I'm a little concerned about Ronnie Lyons. He has not played in the last 2 games, and we could sure use his outside shooting. We all need to get behind out team. Number 9 could be in sight this year with the team we have.

 

[irishcat1965]

Still highly unlikely. We came close to dropping our 3rd game in a row and it could have been 4. Florida is smelling blood in the water. Will be tough to win down there. We won't if we don't have Fox. This game should have been easily won at home even without him. But I will take the win.

Wrong.

 

[willyclyde]

OP is a retard and/or troll