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Bomber227

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The answer to your question is no, or not likely. There is a difference, however. Riley had a 2+ decade-long track record of losing, to boot. Don’t know why people continually need to be reminded of this.
Need to be reminded of this continually. After all, the Riley lovers on here always mention Pelini. But those idiots still don’t comprehend that Pelini is twice the coach that Riley is!
 

HuskerO58

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Well- let's look at the facts- results
Nebraska finished 31st in Recruiting in Rileys first year
Riley was recruiting to a team that had won 9/10 games for 7 consecutive seasons. The opinion of most was NU just needed a few "tweaks" , clean up the turnovers and mistakes and that would nudge us to 11-12-13 wins. Riley wasnt splitting time between teams- his team won 4 games and didn't make any bowl game

Frost OTOH looks like his team is finishing about 20th, 20th is much better than 31st
He was splitting duties
Was recruiting to a 4 win team that had 2 losing seasons in last 3 and the 4 wins were not impressive and against weak competition. Pretty tall order.

Frost and Co led their conference in Recruiting Rankings- they embrace recruiting. We are seeing the entire staff in these kids homes, guys like Held seemingly everywhere all over the country. Frost flying coast to coast and back then on another flight to the midwest the next day sandwiched between 2 practices?? AND beat AUBURN. Does ANYONE who is honest with themselves really think this staff hasnt outworked and run circles around Riley?

The press LOVED Riley and many were firmly behind Riley
I guarantee that if Riley was actually burning the midnight oil, like these guys are- we would have heard about it. Dirk and Shatel wouldnt write those stories?? This is a program desperate for wanting to believe- with Riley we lied to ourselves about wanting to think he could succeed- with Frost we dont.

Ive done both Business and Football consulting. The interesting thing about failing businesses and teams- most of them dont work very hard, but they think they are. Until someone sees what is really possible- they just dont know. They are shocked really. After doing the first 10- I figured out they pretty much had very similar patterns and excuses- quite predictable really.
A very long response when all you should have said was, "No, Riley did not come to Nebraska with low energy in terms of recruiting & the high energy of recruiting continued into the 2017 season."
 
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HuskerO58

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Riley & Co. have, do, and will continue to suck until they retire, somehow with lots and lots of money.

I’ve said it before, but if I were as bad at my job as Riley and staff has been for decades, and I were a millionaire, I’d be very confused.
You're bad at your job and don't make lots of money? That's gotta be the worst.
 
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HuskerO58

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Need to be reminded of this continually. After all, the Riley lovers on here always mention Pelini. But those idiots still don’t comprehend that Pelini is twice the coach that Riley is!
Show the last post where a Riley lover brought up Pelini first.
 

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A very long response when all you should have said was, "No, Riley did not come to Nebraska with low energy in terms of recruiting & the high energy of recruiting continued into the 2017 season."
I didn't say or imply that
Riley's tenure was marked by a lack of effort/ energy and commitment

The facts are given a much more difficult equation, Riley's successor is blowing out Riley's results. After frost blows it out here in the games the Riley lovers are going to look so misguided in their worship of a 19-19 guy

The narrative that the Riley staff loved recruiting, was good at it and worked hard at it is being disproven

The narrative that Riley's staff were more committed to, better at and worked harder at it than pelini did isnt backed up by facts or results. It was wishful thinking that we all wanted to believe. I think pelini hated recruiting, but his results weren't any worse than smilin Mike who supposedly liked it

But just like the lie we were constantly told by Riley that they wanted to run the ball the recruiting prowess thing was completely false as well
 
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HuskerO58

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I didn't say or imply that
Riley's tenure was marked by a lack of effort/ energy and commitment

The facts are given a much more difficult equation, Riley's successor is blowing out Riley's results. After frost blows it out here in the games the Riley lovers are going to look so misguided in their worship of a 19-19 guy

The narrative that the Riley staff loved recruiting, was good at it and worked hard at it is being disproven

The narrative that Riley's staff were more committed to, better at and worked harder at it than pelini did isnt backed up by facts or results. It was wishful thinking that we all wanted to believe. I think pelini hated recruiting, but his results weren't any worse than smilin Mike who supposedly liked it

But just like the lie we were constantly told by Riley that they wanted to run the ball the recruiting prowess thing was completely false as well
Quit trying to talk about stuff I'm not even arguing. I was very specific in my question to you and you go on a 4-6 paragraph tirade about everything but answering my question.
 

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Aren't you the same poster who said Pelini was right about Husker fans on tapegate?

My first post was less than 6 months ago so no

Pelini is no ceo in d1
It was time for him to go
There are demanding fans in any legit big boy program

Want no scrutiny or expectations? go to safe space like Oregon state- participation trophy u
 

davecisar

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The poster who claimed Pelini was right in tapegate posted as much less than 2 months ago.

I thought it was you or Huskercigar.

Okay. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
Wasn't me
Tape gate release was what 5 years ago?

Point was Pelini was wrong about hassling the fans
All legit big boy programs have expectations
If you can't handle big time expectations then you need to coach at a place like safe space Oregon state

Pretty easy to follow

It goes without saying Pelini was a much better coach than Riley, but he wasn't the long term solution and needed to go, I've been 100 percent consistent with that in all my posts
 
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HuskerO58

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If you can't handle big time expectations then you need to coach at a place like safe space Oregon state
Or a FCS school.

And Riley never complained about the expectations here like Pelini did. Of course Riley never matched the expectations. That's never been disputed by me.

The only thing I've brought up in this thread on Riley is whether or not he had high energy when it came to recruiting. Not more or less energy than Frost. Overall high energy or not.

I'm saying yes he did have high energy when it came to recruiting. So far you haven't directly answered the question and bring up everything Riley except whether he had high energy or not.
 

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I had a buddy in college...he was GREAT at going up and talking to girls at the bars...sort of warming them up a bit...but he was horrible at closing...Kind of like Riley.

Pretty sure my buddy ended up in a lot of girls cell phones as "Free Meal" instead of Tim.
 
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Or a FCS school.

And Riley never complained about the expectations here like Pelini did. Of course Riley never matched the expectations. That's never been disputed by me.

The only thing I've brought up in this thread on Riley is whether or not he had high energy when it came to recruiting. Not more or less energy than Frost. Overall high energy or not.

I'm saying yes he did have high energy when it came to recruiting. So far you haven't directly answered the question and bring up everything Riley except whether he had high energy or not.

I stated
Riley was LOW Energy once again
Once again Riley was low energy
Again- low energy
If that enough?

Weak effort
Weak commitment

Evidence:
Riley's recruiting class ranked number 31 year 1

Frost recruiting class wil be ranked number 20 year 1

Frost Recruited to team that won 4 games and two losing seasons in last 3
Riley was recruiting to 9/10 win seasons in last 7

No stories about Riley burning the midnight oil from a very supportive press . Shatel and dirk are suppressing stories about Riley's recruiting effort when the fans are desperate to want to believe in something?????

Much different story coming back about frosts effort

Effort and commitment/ frost compared to Riley isn't in the same universe. Laughable in fact
 

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I stated
Riley was LOW Energy once again
Low energy
Weak effort
Weak commitment

Evidence:
Riley's recruiting class ranked number 31 year 1

Frost recruiting class wil be ranked number 20 year 1

Frost Recruited to team that won 4 games and two losing seasons in last 3
Riley was recruiting to 9/10 win seasons in last 7

No stories about Riley burning the midnight oil from a very supportive press . Shatel and dirk are suppressing stories about Riley's recruiting effort when the fans are desperate to want to believe in something?????

Much different story coming back about frosts effort

Effort and commitment/ frost compared to Riley isn't in the same universe. Laughable in fact
Cripes you're impossible. Just because Frost is better doesnt mean that Riley was low energy when it came to recruiting.
 
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Or a FCS school.

And Riley never complained about the expectations here like Pelini did. Of course Riley never matched the expectations. That's never been disputed by me.

The only thing I've brought up in this thread on Riley is whether or not he had high energy when it came to recruiting. Not more or less energy than Frost. Overall high energy or not.

I'm saying yes he did have high energy when it came to recruiting. So far you haven't directly answered the question and bring up everything Riley except whether he had high energy or not.
I will answer it...**** high energy. If it doesn't = results who cares.

Clowns are high energy...
 

HuskerO58

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Cripes you're impossible. Just because Frost is better doesnt mean that Riley was low energy when it came to recruiting.
It means Frost and Riley both have high energy when it came to recruiting but Frost is showing to be better at it.
 

davecisar

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Cripes you're impossible. Just because Frost is better doesnt mean that Riley was low energy when it came to recruiting.
The results are the results

Frost year 1 recruiting number 20
Riley year 1 recruiting number 31

The games matter
Frost will win more than 4 games with the soft loser attitude team he inherited

Riley sucked
He didn't work hard and he wasn't committed
You hitched your wagon to the wrong horse
You made a huge mistake
Your opinion was wrong
Move on

When I read about a head coach taking his 62 year old wife to a 3 hour baseball game during game 1 week- I'm not getting a feeling the guy is laser focused on his effort and game results
No commitment
Weak effort
Paycheck collector/ job protector/fraud
 
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That's fine. At least you're not wrong in claiming Riley had low energy when it came to recruiting.
So a 63 year old man needs more experience to recruit More effectively ?

We were sold a bill of goods that this guy was a very good recruiter who loved to recruit
All he needed was better facilities and more money to recruit better- that was what we were sold on

I guess that wasn't true either?

Lack of effort
Lack of commitment
Lack of skills
Lack of credibility
All added up to a lack of wins
 

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The results are the results

Frost year 1 recruiting number 20
Riley year 1 recruiting number 31

The games matter
Frost will win more than 4 games with the soft loser attitude team he inherited

Riley sucked
He didn't work hard and he wasn't committed
You hitched your wagon to the wrong horse
You made a huge mistake
Your opinion was wrong
Move on

When I read about a head coach taking his 62 year old wife to a 3 hour baseball game during game 1 week- I'm not getting a feeling the guy is laser focused on his effort and game results
No commitment
Weak effort
Paycheck collector/ job protector/fraud
I even laid out my argument again for you, yet once again you failed to acknowledge my stance and bring up something I'm not even disagreeing with you on.

Sorry but you're really bad at this.
 

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Or a FCS school.

And Riley never complained about the expectations here like Pelini did. Of course Riley never matched the expectations. That's never been disputed by me.

The only thing I've brought up in this thread on Riley is whether or not he had high energy when it came to recruiting. Not more or less energy than Frost. Overall high energy or not.

I'm saying yes he did have high energy when it came to recruiting. So far you haven't directly answered the question and bring up everything Riley except whether he had high energy or not.
Just wondering, but who really cares how much "energy" Riley had while recruiting. His results were his results, regardless of how much "energy" he had. At the end of the day, Riley & Pelini's staffs fought to a draw on the recruiting front. And yet the constant narrative on this board was that Rileys recruiting was so much better than Bo's - in spite of the numbers.

Shouldn't we all now try to look forward and focus on our new coach and how he's doing? From where I'm sitting, I'm VERY EXCITED for the upcoming season as is every Husker fan I've personally talked to in Phoenix, and we have a large fan base down here.
 

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Hey, good morning, sunshines!!!! Beautiful day to be FULL of Energy, and to CLOSE THE DEAL!!!!

I liked the 'free meal' on the phone line a few posts back....:)
 
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Looks like the final tally conservatively will be NU rated #22 and with 25 signees and 9 four star kids. Well done

If the pattern holds true compared to other NU coaching staffs (Callahan, Pelini, Riley)- the 3rd class should be in the # 11-15 range as long as the team shows some improvement
 
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