This Ron Harper Jr. quote...

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“That’s been the biggest thing for me this summer: educating myself on how to eat properly, what to eat, how much to eat,” Harper said. “It’s really carried me in this journey. Before I felt like it was something I lacked. Now I have a great understanding of what I need to do.”

um hello. Did we not have a nutrition program?
 

dpwhite

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The kid was our best player and a great ambassador for Rutgers. I imagine he's just trying to sell the Raptors, how they develop and the work he's done to get better. Out of context it reads odd, but I'm sure he didn't mean anything negative to RU or his time here by it.
 

NickRU714

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Between this quote and the "I'm trying to raise my release point. Nobody ever told me to raise my release" quotes - this is why the NBA draft is filled with freshman and sophomores.
It's not about evaluating "19 year old freshman" vs "22 year old RHJ".
It's "what can we turn this 19 year old into with 3 years of full dedication" vs "already 22 year old RHJ".

Player development is vastly better when the player is 100% committed to basketball and the team is 100% committed to developing the player. College program don't have the resources or incentive to develop players the way a professional program can.

Imagine it was a 19 year old RHJ saying this quote and then spent the last 3 years working solely on getting better and getting his body in shape.
Instead of waiting until 22 and then getting his act together.
 

Caliknight

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It really is a crazy quote. RU has a really good nutrition and conditioning program. He also has an NBA Dad and and a college athlete Mom. It is almost impossible for him to understand the benefits of eating right.

I was shocked when he came back last year in the same shape he'd been in prior to that. It's not rocket science. The resources are there. And it's visual. You don't see a lot of players in the NBA who look like that.
 

Rokodesh

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Plenty of kids go to the NBA or NFL and eat **** the entire time in college. They just have a fast metabolism so it burns off. They only learn how to eat clean in the pros.
 
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ScarletKid2008

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The way athletes treat their bodies has and continues to elevate rapidly.

Only a few decades ago, it was unheard of for athletes in some professional leagues to eat whatever they want , not workout , party all night before games etc.

And there still is a good percent of athletes who do that and can get by .

College weightlifting is now mandatory for every sport but if kids in college want the edge and make it pro, more of them gotta eat strict and prioritize more sleep. We know they get educated on this but I think very few take it as priority
 

Caliknight

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There are always quotes like this. Players have to sell that they are improving and here is why.

But the here is why is the issue. You don't need throw shade at the program that nurtured you, just because you didn't do the work and now realize you have to.

A better response might be something like, "I recognize that I didn't take as much advantage of the resources that were offered to me and am getting my body right now".

Similar statement, but more ownership. Said another way, the truth. Everyone knows the program has a nutritionist.
 

Scarlet83

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The way athletes treat their bodies has and continues to elevate rapidly.

Only a few decades ago, it was unheard of for athletes in some professional leagues to eat whatever they want , not workout , party all night before games etc.

And there still is a good percent of athletes who do that and can get by .

College weightlifting is now mandatory for every sport but if kids in college want the edge and make it pro, more of them gotta eat strict and prioritize more sleep. We know they get educated on this but I think very few take it as priority
General comment. We all know there is lifting and training, and there is LIFTING AND TRAINING. Intensity, frequency and sleep are difference makers, plus nutrition.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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I’m again not seeing the negativity others are seeing. Nowhere in that quote is he blaming Rutgers for failing to provide him with a good nutition program. He’s saying that became his top focus this summer and that’s helped him.

It’s pretty simple. When you know your going to start and play basically the whole game no matter what as a college star, following the available university nutrition program isn’t going to end up top on the priority list. No motivation to take it seriously. I’m sure he’s now been told that he has to improve his eating and weight or he’ll have no chance of making a roster.
 

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“That’s been the biggest thing for me this summer: educating myself on how to eat properly, what to eat, how much to eat,” Harper said. “It’s really carried me in this journey. Before I felt like it was something I lacked. Now I have a great understanding of what I need to do.”

um hello. Did we not have a nutrition program?
There are people who were told what to do by experts....and they keep shopping around until they get the answer they like.

I call it "Cognitive Ignorance"


MO
 
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Rokodesh

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But the here is why is the issue. You don't need throw shade at the program that nurtured you, just because you didn't do the work and now realize you have to.

A better response might be something like, "I recognize that I didn't take as much advantage of the resources that were offered to me and am getting my body right now".

Similar statement, but more ownership. Said another way, the truth. Everyone knows the program has a nutritionist.
Much ado about nothing
 

Yeah Baby

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Yes, he could have sacrificed more to improve his body and his play, but he chose to be a happy college kid instead. Despite that, he was an all American who now has an NBA contract. I would argue he handled everything perfectly.
Posts like this keep me coming back. Sanity prevails. Above commentary is not very sane or normal for grown men to be having.
 
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Between this quote and the "I'm trying to raise my release point. Nobody ever told me to raise my release" quotes - this is why the NBA draft is filled with freshman and sophomores.
It's not about evaluating "19 year old freshman" vs "22 year old RHJ".
It's "what can we turn this 19 year old into with 3 years of full dedication" vs "already 22 year old RHJ".

Player development is vastly better when the player is 100% committed to basketball and the team is 100% committed to developing the player. College program don't have the resources or incentive to develop players the way a professional program can.

Imagine it was a 19 year old RHJ saying this quote and then spent the last 3 years working solely on getting better and getting his body in shape.
Instead of waiting until 22 and then getting his act together.
Yeah but RHJ wasn't getting on an NBA roster as a frosh so who was going to spend 3 years developing him fulltime in hopes he could make the NBA at some point?
Answer: Rutgers offered the next best thing - 4 years of coaching and high level real game experience. And thus the NCAA is the minor leagues for the NBA.
 
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