This one in on Scott!!!

Tarheelhusker

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Think of the embarrassment a Big 10 team is going to own when we beat them. They'll wear that loss forever. Oh yeah, you lost to that 0 & 6 NU team. I'm assuming we beat Bethune-Cookman.
 

huskerfan1414

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Stick with what, specifically? Which play? Man up....
First and ten on NW 16 down 14 13 ozigbo runs for 5, 10 and then 1 yard for td.

Only run next series is a fouryard gain on 3rd and 1, then the interception on 1st down next play.
Next series, zigbo 37 yards on 1st, next play 21, then 4, then washington 11 yards, then wash 3 yard td.
Nebraska up 28 14 just like that.

Next drive in good field position 3rd and 1 didnt get it, but had a 4th and i nches.
Next drive 1st and ten at their 16 and martinez outside run for loss of 2, pass incomplete, 3rd and 12 run stuffed.

I believe we abandoned the inside run, especially with ozigbo who had a monster game, and it hurt our offensive momentum.
 

Iroh

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finally! Someone with some sense..thank you, 1414. I agree.... we should have pounded it more up the middle with Ozigbo.. unfortunately, for good or bad Frost will run that Oregon offense no matter what... I think that is why we lost the CU game.. but, that doesn’t mean the coaching is horrible. With better talent, we win the game...
 
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Iroh

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I would also submit that we will start winning some of these games pretty soon and kids want to play in that system... might take a few years but we’ll get there.... only thing that can derail it is fan hatred...
 

cubsker_rivals142943

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Kicking the fg would have been colossaly stupid. The play calling after the onside was bad. The defense to allow wide open receivers when you should be keeping everything in front was worse. The false start on 3rd and 1 and the 4th and 1 snap take the cake though.
 

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I would also submit that we will start winning some of these games pretty soon and kids want to play in that system... might take a few years but we’ll get there.... only thing that can derail it is fan hatred...

Oh I don't know...Eric Chinander appears to be a pretty solid drunk engineer on only 2 1/2 hours of sleep right now. He looks very capable of derailing anything from a Tyco to an Amtrak.
 
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huskerfan1414

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I would also submit that we will start winning some of these games pretty soon and kids want to play in that system... might take a few years but we’ll get there.... only thing that can derail it is fan hatred...
But the runs were within the system, its not like we needed tto go two tights with a fullback.
I thought the kids played hard.
Its not fan hatred, go frost.
Agree players will want to play nere, heck these guys were motivated at least.
 
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ssmill777

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I don’t know where to begin to explain how this loss happened. It is fair to ask whether Frost and his staff are in over their heads.

If we find out later that half the Nebraska team was shaving points, I wouldn’t be shocked. That’s as logical an explanation for this circus act as anything.
I'm afraid they are in way over their heads, and each loss is going to reinforce that fact. I wish SF hadn't shot his mouth off about the B1G adjusting to him and all that bull. The only adjusting the coaches are doing is bumping up their win total.
 

Iroh

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I agree, kids played hard.. yes, fans will
Make or break this. With support and patience, Frost will flourish. I think it is warranted to criticize but not the hate. I live in Hawkeye country and they have had faith in Ferentz and it has paid off. Our ceiling is just higher than Iowa’s if we stick with it.. The “fire whoever I’m angry at” approach is just silly..
 

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I’m still all in on Frost, but man that last 3 minutes was a complete head scratcher. Not being aggressive to get a first down after the recovered onside kick. Allowing NW to go 99 yards in 2 minutes. OT was just pathetic. The players did everything to win that game and the last 3 minutes just are a bitter pill to swallow. I’m literally dumbfounded.
 
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F5Tornado

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I agree, kids played hard.. yes, fans will
Make or break this. With support and patience, Frost will flourish. I think it is warranted to criticize but not the hate. I live in Hawkeye country and they have had faith in Ferentz and it has paid off. Our ceiling is just higher than Iowa’s if we stick with it.. The “fire whoever I’m angry at” approach is just silly..
No one is saying fire Frost, we're saying he did a piss poor job in the fourth quarter, or do you deny that?
 
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The game results are always ultimately going to be on the coach. I submit that whatever plays HCSF calls that if we lose fans will blame his play calling. He did exactly the opposite of what he did in the CU game and got slated for both. If the plays work, he is a genius or taking risks or getting it done, if they fail, he is an outclassed failure in a conference he can't handle.

It is nothing more than fans blowing off steam in our typically hyperbolic fashion after a loss. All fans do it in football.
 

Wasker77

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I am still 100% behind Scott. I can be critical of the playing calling and still love the Huskers. Specifically I did not like the play calling after the on side kick. I thought the Huskers played not to lose towards the end of the game and were not playing very aggressive. No pressure on the Wildcat QB and lousy coverage. I thought they went away from Zigbo in late in the first quarter/Early second quarter and then late in the second half (was he gassed). Ziggy played his heart out.
 

Iroh

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I could go either way. Have to look at the video. Just interested in hearing exactly what the issues were.. for instance, great call when we had them on the one. Good coverage and hit the qb legally but called for flag. But from what I read, that was poor coaching. Good coaching call to punt and pin at the one. D backs are bad in coverage so I would be interested in knowing what Chin should have done differently?
 

dand84

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C'mon. Against CU HCSF got absolutely slated on here for being aggressive and going for the jugular. Absolutely slated on here. Outcoached, didn't know what he was doing, horrible, etc, etc, etc. Today, he played conservatively, made NW blow all 3 timeouts and pinned them on the 1 yd. line with 2 min left with a D that played well enough to win before that. Give me a break. There is nothing wrong with that.

Lets all rewind and think about what this board would be like if he went for the jugular and a first done instead. Maybe does 1 run and 2 incomplete passes and we get a touchback. How would this board have reacted?

Same thing with kicking the FG. He trots out our kicker who misses. This board would be going nuts telling him to go for it on 4th and 1. How would this board have reacted?

You wouldn't even have to change thread titles, just some of the verbiage of some of the posts.
 
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Husker.Wed._rivals

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I'm losing hope. Frost is starting to remind me of Langsdorf. Namely, he seems to have a pathological inability to stick with what works. Such as, Ozigbo has 17 for 170 at Purdue. The next week he has 5 carries, WTF. Today Ozigbo is running like crazy and just ran four yards to convert a 3rd and 1 around the 25. So quite naturally instead off running again to impose your will, you have your freshman QB throw into double coverage.
 

cmblizz96

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Ya we should have kicked and likely missed another field goal so we could of blamed our kicker instead of frost.
 

OldSchoolHusker

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This team is so out of sorts and undisciplined it's unbelievable. The coaching staff seems to not be guiding the players at all as they continue to make such terrible plays. Wide open opposing receivers continually, confused looking players in general and every week all the boneheaded penalties that are so frustrating. When Frost didn't go for it on 4th and inches it sent such a strong message. NorthWestern was starting to take control and giving the ball back to them was a mistake. We got an interception and didn't finish with a touchdown. We get the onside kick on our side of the field and played not to lose. Sorry to say it today we were a rudderless ship.
 
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Solana Beach Husker

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I would have definitely used the kicker that misses half his FG and missed a PAT earlier. What could possibly go wrong? Also, after all the positive feedback HCSF received after the CU game about clock management and play calling, how dare he make NorthW use all 3 timeouts and put them on the 1 yd line?

They need to stop calling those weird plays that tell Carlos to slap the QB's head with both hands or maybe when calling your DBs to do a pass interference, actually get the guy so he doesn't break a big gainer. Can we also stop calling plays where the center snaps it on the ground? Damn them coaches.

There is plenty of blame to go around today and it isn't all on HCSF and play calling although they left a lot on the field today. It was exactly like the other side was lighting the world on fire with their play calling with an onside kick.

Sometimes, when you are a player, you need to STFU, step up, and make a damn play. This is a gut check problem. Learn to finish.

Our team just isn't as good as a beat up NW team, outside of a few freshman and sophmores we just do not have the talent. I do think if Scott REALLY wanted to win he could have run O 40 times...but Scott also wanted to develop his team and his offense. To be honest, he has been o.k sacrificing this season to build things the way he wants them built. Running kids off the team, running systems that are inefficient for our personnel, and running gameplans that are not suited for the best possible outcome. Scott is recruiting for systems, not taking his current group and creating a system around them to win 5-6 games. Bo used the same offensive system in 2008 that was used in 2007, the team won 8 games, even with a pretty bad defense, but by 2009 the offense was a mess, one of the worst in the nation, and he could never recruit properly to fill it because he never had an identity. My "hope" is that Scott is creating an identity so recruits can envision where they will fit even if we lose 3 or more games than we should.
 

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Our team just isn't as good as a beat up NW team, outside of a few freshman and sophmores we just do not have the talent. I do think if Scott REALLY wanted to win he could have run O 40 times...but Scott also wanted to develop his team and his offense. To be honest, he has been o.k sacrificing this season to build things the way he wants them built. Running kids off the team, running systems that are inefficient for our personnel, and running gameplans that are not suited for the best possible outcome. Scott is recruiting for systems, not taking his current group and creating a system around them to win 5-6 games. Bo used the same offensive system in 2008 that was used in 2007, the team won 8 games, even with a pretty bad defense, but by 2009 the offense was a mess, one of the worst in the nation, and he could never recruit properly to fill it because he never had an identity. My "hope" is that Scott is creating an identity so recruits can envision where they will fit even if we lose 3 or more games than we should.

Top recruits don't want to sign with a program that finishes 2-10, and has had 3 losing seasons in 4 years.
 

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After digesting this game, I don’t think it’s Frosts fault as much as I originally thought. We have zero quality depth and our guys just got mentally tired. Frost said in the presser that it was his plan to give Ozigbo the ball on 3rd and 1 at the end and what happened? We get a false start. We were one play away from winning that game and our guys choked it.

Sad thing is, we have some quality seniors I’d like to have return next year and we don’t really have back ups for. I’m taking about Luke Gifford and a couple others.. so we’re going to have depth issues next year as well.
 

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I was not happy when Frost punted on 4th and inches late in the game. I felt like he needed to play to win instead of playing not to lose. In overtime he played to win. Neither one of those choices were wrong but neither worked. I don't blame him for not having confidence on 4th and short. We have been bad there. He started putting AM under center on short yardage yesterday which everyone has been wanting. The first one did not yield a first down. The second did but we dropped the snap and got very lucky. To sum up my point, I feel that no matter what decision he makes this team will screw it up when the game is on the line. Had he gone for it on 4th and inches they would have screwed it up. When he went for it in OT, they screwed it up. When we forced them to go 99 yards they screwed it up. Had we kicked a FG in OT, they probably screw it up or NW gets a TD. Under Riley I felt like this team could never put a team away. They would get a lead and ease up. They still have that mentality. I don't know how to overcome that.
 
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