This just strikes me as funny, for some reason.

[1msucub]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...sp-gators-football-dan-mullen-0412-story.html

"Strain" shows up when, year 6 or 7? I can't remember.

 

[Go Budaw]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...sp-gators-football-dan-mullen-0412-story.html

"Strain" shows up when, year 6 or 7? I can't remember.

I got a kick out of “beleaguered” fan base in the article title. They have 2 division titles in the past 3 years, as well as another division title and a Sugar Bowl in the past 5 years, and 2 national titles / SEC titles in the past 11 years. If that is “beleaguered”, sign me up any day.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

I think Strain starts showing up after their *** beating in Starkville.


"You've got to play with that UNBELIEVABLE STRAIN!!! EVERY! SNAP! K?"

 

[bulldogcountry1]

I'm convinced Mullen is a one trick pony. He's saying the exact same things he said in Starkville for years. He hasn't even bothered to open a thesaurus so he can pretend to have a fresh message. We all know the offensive creativity we expected never really materialized. He's predictable in everything he does.

 

[tenureplan]

Say What you will, his trick worked, he turned the program around, was instrumental in the stadium expansion, and set most of our offensive records.

 

[fishwater99]

Say What you will, his trick worked, he turned the program around, was instrumental in the stadium expansion, and set most of our offensive records.

Jackie turned our program around.

 

[tenureplan]

Somewhat, and then he buried it again. He also had as many losing seasons as winning ones.

 

[johnson86-1]

I'm convinced Mullen is a one trick pony. He's saying the exact same things he said in Starkville for years. He hasn't even bothered to open a thesaurus so he can pretend to have a fresh message. We all know the offensive creativity we expected never really materialized. He's predictable in everything he does.

He is a one trick pony like Saban is a one trick pony. I think he just hates the marketing/recruiting/selling part of the job and thinks he is a good enough coach and Florida a premier enough program that he can skimp on it and do it half assed. I think he's probably right, as long as florida fans and boosters stay focused on w's and l's and don't get too pissed off that he makes it harder on himself by doing a stale, half-assed promotional pitch and can't fully invest in recruiting.

 

[T-TownDawgg]

I appreciate what Mullen did for our program.
I think it's dumb for our fanbase to minimize his impact.
I think he is a good coach; lazy recruiter.
I also am glad we have some fresh thinking in Starkville. Mullen's record was skipping, and now the gaytas are chomping up his replays.
I think it was time for him to go. Morehead, three-and-a-half months in, is showcasing an anti-Mullenesque recruiting clinic despite the handicap of a late start and little connections. Facinating.

 

[thatsbaseball]

We did a hell-of-a-lot for Mullen too. We provided him a place to learn how to be a head coach and made him a rich man at the same time.

 

[Shmuley]

74-76-2 (on the field)

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I have thought about this at length. I am still very unhappy with the fact he was so intent on leaving that he mailed in coaching the Egg Bowl, but I do hope he has success at Florida, except of course when we play them. I remember where we were when Croom was exited and where we are now and attribute much of this to Mullen.

He never won the one game that matters to me, Alabama, he never won the SEC and he sucked at recruiting, but he did build up the program, developed players and changed our image for the better. I'll always be thankful for his work up until his last game and I cannot dwell on that too much now.

At the same time, he also left at the perfect time for us to get a coach that for all indications so far looks to be the absolute best replacement we could have hoped for. He has gathered HARD working assistants and smoothly taken charge with no drama except for the recruiting he and his staff have already accomplished.

I'm over Mullens and wish him well and thank you and am ready to see what Coach Joe has in store for us. Hell, I may even make it over for a big game knowing we have a new philosophy in place when battling the big boys.

 

[patdog]

As mediocre as that record is, it was still the best record for a MSU football coach since Darrell Royal in 1954-1955. We've come a LONG way in the last 27 years.

 

[Shmuley]

Absolutely. DARRELL F'N ROYAL, PEOPLE.

 

[Ranchdawg]

His record at State was 69-46

As mediocre as that record is, it was still the best record for a MSU football coach since Darrell Royal in 1954-1955. We've come a LONG way in the last 27 years.

And we have been to 8 bowl games in a row. How many programs in America would love to say that??? I appreciate all that Dan Mullen did for our school. Attacking him now just seems petty. I'm sure he will repeat how much he enjoyed being here when he returns for the football game this fall. Just be thankful that we had him as our coach. What do you think Joe Moorhead or any other coach thinks when they read the tripe some of you spew.

 

[5049]

I have thought about this at length. I am still very unhappy with the fact he was so intent on leaving that he mailed in coaching the Egg Bowl, but I do hope he has success at Florida, except of course when we play them. I remember where we were when Croom was exited and where we are now and attribute much of this to Mullen.

Why? If he has success at Florida, people will say MSU held him back

I don't wish him failure, but I don't want them to win big either

 

[thf24]

Say What you will, his trick worked, he turned the program around, was instrumental in the stadium expansion, and set most of our offensive records.

I'm not one of those who's pretending Mullen didn't do anything special for us, but setting most of our offensive records isn't saying a whole lot.

 

[TheStateUofMS]

He did. But unfortunately even though we did rack up more yards, towards the end of the Mullen era he became very predictable.

I've even seen quotes from players saying other teams knew what we were running.

I was tired of 4th and short being a QB power every time. We now have at least 5 plays for 4th and 1 now*

 

[patdog]

Uh, I was replying to the post that Jackie's record was 74-76-2. No doubt Mullen took us to a whole new level. I'm pissed about the way he left and the fact he didn't really seem to care in a couple of Egg Bowls, but he's the best coach in our history. Until JoeMo passes him.

 

[HumpDawgy]

If only we would have been able to pay him millions of dollars to show our appreciation for the championships he promised us.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

I have thought about this at length. I am still very unhappy with the fact he was so intent on leaving that he mailed in coaching the Egg Bow

The thing is, to me at least, that it wasn't just that last Egg Bowl that he mailed it in. Last game of the season, openings in other places usually start popping up and it seemed that several of the last 3-4 years his mind was on his potential future jobs rather than the one he currently had.

 

[fishwater99]

We did a hell-of-a-lot for Mullen too. We provided him a place to learn how to be a head coach and made him a rich man at the same time.

And all he did was job hunt every damn year during Egg Bowl week.. **** him...

He was full of himself and not innovative at all. All he did was follow what he had learned from Urban. Mullens had no original offensive thoughts...

 

[fishwater99]

The thing is, to me at least, that it wasn't just that last Egg Bowl that he mailed it in. Last game of the season, openings in other places usually start popping up and it seemed that several of the last 3-4 years his mind was on his potential future jobs rather than the one he currently had.

^^^^^
This
It was every damn year since 2010..

 

[patdog]

I'm not sorry he's gone and I'm happier with the coach we have now. But there's no way to deny the simple fact Dan Mullen is, to date, the best coach we've ever had at MSU.

 

[5049]

And we have been to 8 bowl games in a row. How many programs in America would love to say that??? I appreciate all that Dan Mullen did for our school. Attacking him now just seems petty. I'm sure he will repeat how much he enjoyed being here when he returns for the football game this fall. Just be thankful that we had him as our coach. What do you think Joe Moorhead or any other coach thinks when they read the tripe some of you spew.

If Mullen was coaching in the 90s he would not have been to 8 straight bowl games. He would have missed in 2011, 2013 and obviously 2016. And if he had stuck around a few more years, he would have gotten bitter and self-destructed, so let's not anoint him as some saint

He stabilized our program and gave us some good moments. King Jackie gave us better wins but also some worse losses, and stayed too long. I'm grateful that Mullen got out when he did, before he self-destructed Jackie-style, Stricklin too (especially considering how it turned out ie how we replaced both of them)

 

[patdog]

If Mullen was coaching in the 90s, he wouldn't have had to deal with an SEC West loaded with top 10 teams every year. Agree that I'm glad Mullen left when he did, and wish Jackie had left 2-3 years sooner.

 

[tenureplan]

Kind of like you regurgitating everything you hear from 34?


eta: read from 34

 

[fishwater99]

Kind of like you regurgitating everything you hear from 34?

Nope... haven't talked to him in years..

 

[5049]

I'm not sorry he's gone and I'm happier with the coach we have now. But there's no way to deny the simple fact Dan Mullen is, to date, the best coach we've ever had at MSU.

you done bumped yo head

 

[5049]

If Mullen was coaching in the 90s, he wouldn't have had to deal with an SEC West loaded with top 10 teams every year. Agree that I'm glad Mullen left when he did, and wish Jackie had left 2-3 years sooner.

Kang also rose up and got to Atlanta, where he faced an elite team from the other side, plus he beat Florida (the Bama of the 90s) whenever they came to Starkville. And when Mullen had a chance at a down Alabama team in his best year, he clammed up and choked. This is the most overplayed argument ever, the SEC has always and will always be loaded

Jackie was a better coach than Mullen, and it will stay that way until Mullen proves him wrong at Florida

Mullen was an absolutely GREAT program builder though, kids were out of trouble for the most part, we always had a pulse, etc

 

[patdog]

Jackie was a better coach than Mullen​

Keep living in your fantasy world. The facts simply don't lie. And it's not even close. Mullen had a MUCH better record against MUCH tougher schedules. I love Jackie for pulling us out of a 50 year ditch (which is a pretty huge accomplishment) and putting us on the path to become a solid program, but he did not do nearly as well at MSU as Mullen did.

 

[5049]

Keep living in your fantasy world. The facts simply don't lie. And it's not even close. Mullen had a MUCH better record against MUCH tougher schedules. I love Jackie for pulling us out of a 50 year ditch (which is a pretty huge accomplishment) and putting us on the path to become a solid program, but he did not do nearly as well at MSU as Mullen did.

What facts? Jackie's better record through his first 9 years? What is not close? Why don't you go grab those numbers (and take out the FCS gimme game Mullen got every year with his 12 game schedule vs. Jackie's 11 gamer)

I'll be waiting

 

[HD6]

Jackie's record in his first nine seasons minus I-AA games (only one) was 58-45-2. Mullen minus the FCS games is 60-46. Where the discrepancy lies is in strength of schedule. Mullen played 42 games against teams with 9 or more wins (7-35), Sherrill only 24 (4-20). LSU only won 9+ twice in Jackie's first nine and had six losing seasons, Mullen never played an LSU team worse than 8-5. Auburn had 4 losing seasons in Jackie's first 9 years, Mullen only got one losing Auburn team. Alabama lost 26 games total in Jackie's first 9 years, they lost 12 in Mullen's 9. The SEC is just much, much better now.

 

[deadheaddawg]

Mullen did a lot for us. A lot. More than Jackie when you consider the state of the program when they left

I hope he never wins another game (unless it's ole Miss). I can't root for him anymore.

But it's pretty dumb to not admit he did a lot for us

 

[RocketDawg]

He certainly did a lot for us, but now it is obvious that he was just using us as a steppingstone instead of a destination, and I really thought differently since it was his program that he took from almost nothing to one that is pretty much respected.

 

[ababyatemydingo]

I think Strain starts showing up after their *** beating in Starkville.


"You've got to play with that UNBELIEVABLE STRAIN...UNBELIEVEABLE STRAIN!!! EVERY! SNAP!...EVERY! SNAP!... K?"

FIFY

 

[josebrown]

I didn't know he was a ballerina...I knew something was a little different about the guy, maybe that's it...

 

[tatedog]

I didn't know he was a ballerina...I knew something was a little different about the guy, maybe that's it...

Knowing this now, I guess we should be relieved shorts are the most revealing apparel he sported on the sideline.

 

[Fogdog]

Jackie's record in his first nine seasons minus I-AA games (only one) was 58-45-2. Mullen minus the FCS games is 60-46. Where the discrepancy lies is in strength of schedule. Mullen played 42 games against teams with 9 or more wins (7-35), Sherrill only 24 (4-20). LSU only won 9+ twice in Jackie's first nine and had six losing seasons, Mullen never played an LSU team worse than 8-5. Auburn had 4 losing seasons in Jackie's first 9 years, Mullen only got one losing Auburn team. Alabama lost 26 games total in Jackie's first 9 years, they lost 12 in Mullen's 9. The SEC is just much, much better now.

Whoa! Do NOT come at SPS members with facts like these!! It completely screws up the King Jackie narrative. Please turn in your cowbell.

 

[Go Budaw]

He certainly did a lot for us, but now it is obvious that he was just using us as a steppingstone instead of a destination, and I really thought differently since it was his program that he took from almost nothing to one that is pretty much respected.

Of course we were a stepping stone. How many coaches (or people in any profession, really) stay where they landed their first ever big gig until they retire? Not many. It’s kind of baffling that so many thought he was going to be sitting at Starkville Cafe when he was in his 60’s while he and Megan perused the Sunday sports page through their bifocals to see what Cannon shot in the US Open. He was here 9 years, which is longer than probably 90% of all Power 5 head coaching tenures with any coach at any one school, regardless of if its their first gig or not. Be grateful for the good times, forgetful of the bad times, recognize the accomplishments but also don’t dwell in them. No need for animosity or adulation. It’s not hard.