This isn’t on Fitz

[codeDawg]

Fitz isn’t throwing perfect balls every time, but he’s running for his life and making enough plays to win games. Our OL is 2 star garbage and Fitz delivered a perfect TD pass to a guy that seems to only drop the ball.

Hev has a special talent of coaching up the OL. The lack of recruiting talent is showing up now.

 

[mount lefroy]

Fitz isn’t throwing perfect balls every time, but he’s running for his life and making enough plays to win games. Our OL is 2 star garbage and Fitz delivered a perfect TD pass to a guy that seems to only drop the ball.

Hev has a special talent of coaching up the OL. The lack of recruiting talent is showing up now.

Fitz pulled the ball out of Kylin a hands and took a sack to the 3 hardline on 1st fing down.

KT wouldn’t die much better if at all.

 

[GTAdawg]

Wrong. Next.

 

[codeDawg]

Wrong. Next.

Can’t argue with that logic.

 

[Cow College]

Fitz is terrible

 

[Dawgzilla]

It's a little on Fitz.

 

[Shamoan]

If you are asking your 6'10" center to jack up a 3 every time down the court, it's probably not the centers fault.....

 

[Coast Dawg]

Fitz isn’t throwing perfect balls every time, but he’s running for his life and making enough plays to win games. Our OL is 2 star garbage and Fitz delivered a perfect TD pass to a guy that seems to only drop the ball.

Hev has a special talent of coaching up the OL. The lack of recruiting talent is showing up now.

Correct. As a QB in the SEC, you don’t break Tebow records and suck ***. Fitz is being set up to fail.

 

[fang]

Trace McSorleys got 260 passing and 150 rushing so far against OSU tonight........

I don’t get it.

 

[jack daniels dog]

Fitz is frustrating as 17 to watch but if there are people wanting to put all blame on him, your retarded (is that allowed to be said these days). He literally gets about 1.4 seconds to look downfield before he is running, and then when he gets a chance Edward Scissorhands drops it on the five.

Blame some on him, but he can’t shoulder this entire **** show

 

[MeridianDog]

Fitz has 2 unique skills for a College QB. He hits the ground with his passes 5 yards short of his receiver and he throws the ball 6 feet over their head. But it's not his fault? Oh he also has no idea that pressure is coming and that he must throw the ball quickly.

Coach Joe. He is going to win the game his way, or not at all.




I will agree with anyone who wants to say we are really bad.

 

[tribaldawg]

Fitz has 2 unique skills for a College QB. He hits the ground with his passes 5 yards short of his receiver and he throws the ball 6 feet over their head. But it's not his fault? Oh he also has no idea that pressure is coming and that he must throw the ball quickly.

Coach Joe. He is going to win the game his way, or not at all.




I will agree with anyone who wants to say we are really bad.

As an all-around QB Fitz isn't in the top 10 in the SEC. If a State fan feels confident when Fitz drops back to pass they haven't watched a lot of football.

 

[skydawg1]

Burrow is a better SEC QB than Fitz. And he's from the B1G. Let that sink in.

 

[DudyDawg]

He’s got other priorities

 

[MaroonOldCrow]

I agree. It's ****** playcalling. It's a coach as obstinate as Croom about running *his* offense, the talents and capabilities of his players be damned.

 

[kired]

It’s pretty much on everyone involved with the offense except the RBs, since they apparently are just out there as decoys.

 

[Bruce Dakinson]

A portion of it is on the play calling. However, Nick is a quarterback. Hes had more starts with our team than any other QB at MSU in the past decade. He gets free college to throw footballs. He may have some great rushing stats and break some records, but I'd venture that there is no other multi-year starting QB that has thrown as many passes directly into the dirt or 20ft over our receivers heads as Fitz has in his time here.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Unless your center is also 350 lbs.

#renardo

 

[SyonaraStanz]

I know it's against the MSU code to pay attention to recruiting stars, but there's a reason Fitz was a 2 star recruit. He's not an average quarterback. Good runner, but no bueno on the QB.

 

[codeDawg]

Fitz is frustrating as 17 to watch but if there are people wanting to put all blame on him, your retarded (is that allowed to be said these days). He literally gets about 1.4 seconds to look downfield before he is running, and then when he gets a chance Edward Scissorhands drops it on the five.

Blame some on him, but he can’t shoulder this entire **** show

Exactly right. Maybe he’s not Drew Brees, but he’s also running for his life back there. I guarantee you Matt’s analysis will give you the same conclusion this week. The problem is the OL and we need to figure out how to compensate for it.

 

[MaroonOldCrow]

So you're saying that our new pass-heavy head coach should tell his QB,who has always been a mediocre at best passer, to ignore the fact that he's a mediocre at best passer to pass more?

 

[Duncflydawg]

I think the receivers are actually surprised when the ball hits them in stride.

 

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Trace McSorleys got 260 passing and 150 rushing so far against OSU tonight........

I don’t get it.

None of us do.......As much as I hate to say it and agree with posters on here that go to one extreme and say Moorhead is over his head it's starting to look that way. I feel like it's a combination of several factors of which I'm not educated enough to understand or know what those factors are.

All I think I know is that this offense wouldn't have been this OFFENSIVE (play on words) if Mullen was running it this year.

Moorhead hasn't forgotten how to run an offense but is he over thinking it? Like we used to say about IB when he was in the dugout?

McSorley or however you spell his name and Nick aren't the same type of players...I've not watched Penn State in depth the last 2 years but I'd guess that Nick is a lot better runner than McSorley but Mc is a lot better passer than Nick.

So adjust your offense to fit what Nick and everyone else on the O can do best?

 

[kired]

So that’s what, two or three surprises per game?

 

[Bulldogg31]

Couple of times tonight Guidry was running wide open for 10-15 yard gains. Fitz never even looked to his side of the field. He was dialed in on one receiver from the snap and threw into coverage. Twice.

It’s a lot on Fitz guys. I like the kid and want him to do well but he’s hurting us in this offense.

 

[Dawg1976]

I watched some of PSU last night and McSorley is a damn good runner. Overall he is head and shoulders of Fitz as a qb. And with his good receivers and OL, no wonder Moorhead's system works there. Can Moorhead do it here? Got to have better players to do so.

 

[msugolf]

I watched some of PSU last night and McSorley is a damn good runner. Overall he is head and shoulders of Fitz as a qb. And with his good receivers and OL, no wonder Moorhead's system works there. Can Moorhead do it here? Got to have better players to do so.

Typically is a bad sign when teams start making the statements “well so-so coach needs to get his players in here.” Especially at a school like state. Sounds an awful lot like when Croom said he needed to get his west coast players in here to run his system. We’ll never be able to go out and just pick who we want to get so we have to do the best with what we can. The best coaches succeed with what they already have.

 

[Beerbully]

Typically is a bad sign when teams start making the statements “well so-so coach needs to get his players in here.” Especially at a school like state. Sounds an awful lot like when Croom said he needed to get his west coast players in here to run his system. We’ll never be able to go out and just pick who we want to get so we have to do the best with what we can. The best coaches succeed with what they already have.

Exactly. So Moorhead is the one who needs to adjust to the team. Run first. Get Fitz, Hill and Williams involved early and often. Let the O-line get into the rhythm of run-blocking assignments. Then mix in the perimeter screens and quick slants. Don't ask your running QB to pass too much. In short, call the game kinda' like Mullen would.

 

[FreeDawg]

Fitz can run the read option really well.

Fitz cannot process passing tree progressions. Fitz has terrible pocket awareness and never slides away from pressure. When pressured, Fitz ducks and gets sacked every time. Zero escapability. Fitz has terrible passing touch. Fitz has terrible accuracy. Fitz is a bad leader. What senior QB gets suspended for the opener? All in all, he’s not very good and the success he did have proves how damn good a coach Mullen was.

 

[msstate7]

Fitz can run the read option really well.

Fitz cannot process passing tree progressions. Fitz has terrible pocket awareness and never slides away from pressure. When pressured, Fitz ducks and gets sacked every time. Zero escapability. Fitz has terrible passing touch. Fitz has terrible accuracy. Fitz is a bad leader. What senior QB gets suspended for the opener? All in all, he’s not very good and the success he did have proves how damn good a coach Mullen was.

Fitz last 2 games...

27/58 for 226 yards 0 TD 1 INT as a passer. 36 rushes for 52 yards as a rusher.

I was a huge fitz guy, but he's only useful with Mullen

 

[Duncflydawg]

Fitz has become a poor mans Jalen Hurts. I think someone else nailed it when they said Fitz has other priorities.

 

[SirBarksalot]

So when does KT get the start?
Id bet there are others wondering the same.

 

[FreeDawg]

Fitz has become a poor mans Jalen Hurts. I think someone else nailed it when they said Fitz has other priorities.

Other priorities=terrible leader

 

[The Peeper]

Good point, we won before with Fitz throwing the ball everywhere but in the receivers hands, what's changed now?

 

[57stratdawg]

I don’t think that is talked about enough. Fitz doesn’t read the entire field.

 

[thatsbaseball]

Fitz is a white Chris Relf but with a coach who was clueless as to how to build an offense around him. This was a 9-3 / 8-4 type team IF the offense had been tailored to fit the available talent.

 

[Dawg1976]

I'm ready for a switch. I know KT didn't look great in the first game, but sometimes a pitching change has to be made. Can't hurt.

 

[PubDawg]

Other priorities=terrible leader

What are we talking about? Is football not his top priority?

 

[Bullldawg78]

Fitz is 0-2 in his last 2 starts Keyton is 2-0, yeah yeah inferior oppenents and all, but the 4 td performance I think hurt the team moral on offense, if your a sec caliber back and you k ow when there is a chance for a TD in the red zone your qb is gonna pull the option and keep it himself, I think that hurts your trust in him. Nick doesn't even read half the field he is eyeing down receivers and can't hit anyone in stride. We 17ing cheered like we won a Natty whenhe completed a pass last night. He was 42% completion rate, heads up it has kept going down at what point do we sit him if we insist on running this passing offense?

 

[HamSammich]

Nope, that GF of his that told him he was not getting a Mohawk is is top priority