This is why we lost

zcats

Heisman
May 29, 2001
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IU is a better team. Both point guards are excellent. I prefer Ulis but both are outstanding. Skal was a huge recruiting miss and we did not have front line talent to compete with a good team. Crean did a good coaching job. That is all, Cal did not have many options all year.
 

Burly

All-American
Sep 3, 2002
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Yeah Indiana studied the end of kansas game and went from there...


..and it seems we wenter away from what turned our year around. Which was having willis stretch the floor. Seems that Indianas offense scared us into having our defensive unit out there most of the gaem, and of course all 3 defensive players (skal, poy and lee) gave us jack all game. Same thing happened first game until willis finally hit our first 3 of the game, anso that got the offense in motion and we blew them out. The 15 blocks sealed out fate as much as other things.


With that said, I don't think we were going all the way with a win anyways. But an elite 8 or final 4 would have been great

Spot on...Instead of going with best offensive line up he went defense and we lose. Willis should have started and played much more
 

fla.cat

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May 23, 2002
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Are you out of your damned mind.
Ulis showed he is a better player than Yogi * outplayed him.

THIS is a much more accurate assessment of their duel.
They are very similar in ability, perhaps Ulis was a little better.
Yogi didn't keep them in it or win the game for them.
 

screwduke

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He didn't shoot poorly...he jacked up ill advised shots....rushed, off balance, well guarded. Give us back half of those stupid 3 pt attempts and we win.
Unfortunately, he had to shoot those. No one else but Ulis can score.
 

H.Roark

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THIS is a much more accurate assessment of their duel.
They are very similar in ability, perhaps Ulis was a little better.
Yogi didn't keep them in it or win the game for them.
As a Hoosier fan I thought Ullis was phenomenal and if that was an off night (which I understand as a fan that watches a lot of my team) he is unreal! Yogi made some plays but Ullis looked like paint on him. Thought both teams missed several shots they normally make.

I thought we adjusted well but I was shocked you went away from Poythress as he was killing us in the beginning. Overall, I know I am disappointed this game happened in the Round 32. Additionally, I really hope these two don't play in the NCAA for good while! From Southern Indiana these games are rough on friendships between the two teams simply because our passion for basketball.
 

Katwatcher

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Kinda like a couple months ago...we reverted for some reason, and while I'd love to say it was because of the other team...it wasn't. We just came out "odd" and it showed from the beginning.

Why does it hurt so much just to give the opponent a little credit? The reason we came out odd was the fact they played defense a lot better than we did. Seems everyone really believed all the jokes thrown at Crean and their team this passed week.. We were beaten in every phase of the game. just have to face it.
 

Katwatcher

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Feb 17, 2003
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stop talking about Cal's coaching. His coaching had nothing to do with tonight's disaster. Ulis was the only one shooting the ball well and with Murray playing so horrible....... what the hell could Cal have done? Throw the ball to who more???? Give the ball to Poythress who was missing too many shots??? Or give it to Lee who has 0 post skills? Or Skal who only shows up 3% of the time this season?

So seriously.... What could Cal of done besides try to put Towns in the damn game?
First of all Towns is not eligible to play.

Put more emphasis on defense. That is what won the game for Indiana. Yogi the point guard
for Indy blew by everyone like they were glued to the floor. He also
back-doored Ulis twice for wide open lay ups. It was our lack of defense that caused this loss. jmho
 

The_Godfather_rivals

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May 22, 2002
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UK wasn't going to advance far in this tournament with only 2 reliable scorers in the game for the majority of the minutes.

Either Willis is still hurt or Cal decided to gamble on one of the 2 biggest enigmas on the team (Poythress & Skal) magically becoming consistent scorers.

UK lost because the front court was atrocious. Bottom line. It's been that way consistently all season and we were all simply hoping that we'd figure out a way to avoid it being exposed. The fact they no-showed against an IU team with a mediocre front court just needs to be a reminder that this fatal flaw was going to kill this team eventually.
 

triadaz

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2 keys plays impacted the final 3 minutes - Willis misses the front end of a 1:1 earlier in the 2nd half. and Lee misses a bunny. add those 4 points in and our approach to the final 3 minutes changes. not saying we would have won.
 

shutzhund

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Lost because they were able to sag off everybody but Murray and Ulis. They overplayed them out front and clogged the lane to keep them from driving. Nobody else stepped up. Bigs played with no energy.



At last the real reason, Explains the other players' performances. Our bigs have been too weak all this season to be a NC contender. Sporadic good games but nothing to depend on. If only Skal could have been the player he was touted to be.

Indiana was the better balanced team in this game.

X & O had nothing to do with itt. That's a cop out. We've seen this front line problem all season long.
 
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LadyCaytIL

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Oct 28, 2012
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First of all Towns is not eligible to play.

Put more emphasis on defense. That is what won the game for Indiana. Yogi the point guard
for Indy blew by everyone like they were glued to the floor. He also
back-doored Ulis twice for wide open lay ups. It was our lack of defense that caused this loss. jmho

You really think I didn't know Towns was playing for the Timberwolves in the NBA?
 

The_Godfather_rivals

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If only Skal could have been the player he was touted to be.
Hell, if he had only been 1/2 the player he was supposed to be, we would have been fine. He has so far to go before being capable of being a reliable player even at the collegiate level. I fear for him if he jumps to the NBA because I am fairly confident that he will struggle to stay on an NBA roster and might not ever see a second contract. Even worse, I fear that those pushing him to jump will be less that trustworthy in avoiding Skal wasting his earnings prior to age 25 let alone age 85.
 

wcc31

Heisman
Mar 18, 2002
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I don't mind people blaming Calipari. He gets paid a lot of money. But I don't really think you can blame his coaching on this game. Our mercurial (at best) frontcourt no-showed, which shouldn't shock any of us. AND, our red-hot SG Murray slumped at the wrong time (6-26 from three the last 3 games). And Indiana is a good team, as they have showed in 2016. What are you going to do?

Cal messed up in NOT taking Bryant last Spring. I believe he locked in on Diallo and Zimmerman. And arguably, in NOT taking Bragg. That's where he messed up.

This frontcourt featured pretty much the only two busts of his career in Poythress and Skal. You just couldn't trust either of them.
 

Graves51

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The way I saw the game was Murray missed wide open shots that he normally makes, he did not force bad shots. Tyler was forced into a role of scoring PG more than he has been. Willis didn't hit any three's. Poy did one of his disappearing acts but somebody said his knee was bothering him. Briscoe wasn't playing his normal drive and score game. IU did not shoot three's well but we shot worse. If we had been hitting our shots like we had been we would have won going away. That's the risk a jump shooting team takes.
Willis didn't even play until the first half was half over, how many shots did he get? Murray shot some very ill advised shots the entire game.
 

turkeywildturkey

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I don't mind people blaming Calipari. He gets paid a lot of money. But I don't really think you can blame his coaching on this game. Our mercurial (at best) frontcourt no-showed, which shouldn't shock any of us. AND, our red-hot SG Murray slumped at the wrong time (6-26 from three the last 3 games). What are you going to do?

Cal messed up in NOT taking Bryant last Spring. I believe he locked in on Diallo and Zimmerman. And arguably, in NOT taking Bragg. That's where he messed up.

This frontcourt featured pretty much the only two busts of his career in Poythress and Skal. You just couldn't trust either of them.

Let me get this straight. Cal messed up by not taking Bryant? If you asked every coach in America who they would rather have between Skal and Bryant, I doubt one of them would have picked Bryant, including Tom Crean.
You're questioning the recruiting choices of the greatest recruiter in the history of college basketball? Are you frigging serious? What an idiot post.
 

wcc31

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Mar 18, 2002
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Let me get this straight. Cal messed up by not taking Bryant? If you asked every coach in America who they would rather have between Skal and Bryant, I doubt one of them would have picked Bryant, including Tom Crean.
You're questioning the recruiting choices of the greatest recruiter in the history of college basketball? Are you frigging serious? What an idiot post.

Yes, he messed up by not taking Bryant. Skal and Bryant weren't an either-or thing. Calipari obviously wanted another big (ended up with Humphries after missing out on Diallo and Zimmerman).

Yeah, Cal's the best. He rarely misses. He did this time. No need to be a jerk about it. Just my opinion.
 

LadyCaytIL

Heisman
Oct 28, 2012
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Or did Cal mess up by not strangling Johnson and Booker until they decided to stay another year? I mean there is still a large group of fans who think its Cal's duty to force these kids to stay.
 

blubo

Heisman
Oct 14, 2014
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85,181
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The combined 14 points from our four big men stands out as the losing factor to me.
Our guards carried the load for as long as they could.
 

Rod Crandler

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The pressure of the tournament showed big time and our young players reverted back to one-on-one basketball like we played earlier in the season. I bet if you counted the number of passes made with 15 or less on the shot clock it would be near the bottom of the season. Once the clock hit around 15 seconds, everyone in the arena knew who was going to make the shot. I am really starting to wonder if young players can handle the pressure of the tournament.