This is why we lost

TheDude73

Heisman
Jan 7, 2006
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Ulis had more turnovers than assists.

Jamal went 1-9 from 3-pt range.

Our front line combined for 14 points.

Kinda like a couple months ago...we reverted for some reason, and while I'd love to say it was because of the other team...it wasn't. We just came out "odd" and it showed from the beginning.
 

1473

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Jan 1, 2003
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Good assessment. We knew by the time that we got to the sec tourney that we were a two man team. Our bigs were just not dominate this year. I still love this team and they got me through a cold winter. I will be sad for a couple of days and then enjoy the warm weather that is just about here.
 

IYAOYAS1

All-Conference
Dec 15, 2006
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Did Murray have new shoes on today? He seemed to struggle with planting his feet on some cuts.
 

LadyCaytIL

Heisman
Oct 28, 2012
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stop talking about Cal's coaching. His coaching had nothing to do with tonight's disaster. Ulis was the only one shooting the ball well and with Murray playing so horrible....... what the hell could Cal have done? Throw the ball to who more???? Give the ball to Poythress who was missing too many shots??? Or give it to Lee who has 0 post skills? Or Skal who only shows up 3% of the time this season?

So seriously.... What could Cal of done besides try to put Towns in the damn game?
 

Warison

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willievic

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When the other team scores more points then you, you usually lose. Isn't this about the 9th time that has happened this year?

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

jameslee32

Heisman
Mar 26, 2009
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Turnovers and defense. Why was the smallest guy on the team the only guy to take a charge? They were driving and dishing as much as any team we faced. The tape did not lie. Can't stay in front I guess. Not enough team quickness.
 

BlueRunner11

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Mar 26, 2011
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So genius, what would you have done differently? Hard to make great coaching moves when you only have 2 scorers

When one team is shooting layups and knocking down wide open threes and the other team struggles to get a decent look and taking shots with players who shouldn't be shooting, what do you think that's a result of?

It's not effort. Guys were playing hard.

Did players suddenly forget how to play or what to do out there?

No. It's because one coach came in with a specific game plan to affect the other team and exploit their weaknesses and the other coach wasn't worried about anything other than how his team is playing. You saw the result.

BTW, Didn't you watch Wisconsin game last year?
 

Levibooty

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Jun 29, 2005
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The way I saw the game was Murray missed wide open shots that he normally makes, he did not force bad shots. Tyler was forced into a role of scoring PG more than he has been. Willis didn't hit any three's. Poy did one of his disappearing acts but somebody said his knee was bothering him. Briscoe wasn't playing his normal drive and score game. IU did not shoot three's well but we shot worse. If we had been hitting our shots like we had been we would have won going away. That's the risk a jump shooting team takes.
 

z71sab

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Oct 1, 2005
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When one team is shooting layups and knocking down wide open threes and the other team struggles to get a decent look and taking shots with players who shouldn't be shooting, what do you think that's a result of?

It's not effort. Guys were playing hard.

Did players suddenly forget how to play or what to do out there?

No. It's because one coach came in with a specific game plan to affect the other team and exploit their weaknesses and the other coach wasn't worried about anything other than how his team is playing. You saw the result.

BTW, Didn't you watch Wisconsin game last year?
So if Murray would have hit 2 more 3's and Kentucky would have won the game what would be your post then ?? This was not on cal at all. Your wrong. Kentucky had advantages all over the court . Usually it's one or the other when talking about the bigs playing bad and Murray shooting bad. First game in a long time that Both happened in the same game. Cal ran 3 straight plays for the bigs to start second half and 3 empty trips and 2 heads hung .if Murray had his normal game we win.
 

W_Heisenberg

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Aug 2, 2013
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And Cal pulled a coaching version of Alex Poythress' disappearing act.

Just go away...this is a horrendous take. Cal can't make people box out and rebound, he can't play defense, he can't force someone to shoot a decent %. Don't put this on the coach, he got this team to be the best possible version at the end of the year and we just didn't have guys step up and perform as they had been of late. Willis couldn't hit 3's, Marcus/Skal couldn't block shots or stop Bryant, and Murray was ice cold.

It's just as much your fault as it is Cal's.
 

rick64

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Jan 25, 2007
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16 TOs, 43 from Tyler/Murray and 24 from everyone else, bigs couldn't finish at the rim, 1-9 3pt FG from Murray. Credit to IU for D on Murray.
 
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W_Heisenberg

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When one team is shooting layups and knocking down wide open threes and the other team struggles to get a decent look and taking shots with players who shouldn't be shooting, what do you think that's a result of?

It's not effort. Guys were playing hard.

Did players suddenly forget how to play or what to do out there?

No. It's because one coach came in with a specific game plan to affect the other team and exploit their weaknesses and the other coach wasn't worried about anything other than how his team is playing. You saw the result.

BTW, Didn't you watch Wisconsin game last year?


Wrong.

Effort - boxing out, how many offensive rebounds did IU get that turned into points
Effort - playing defense, Bryant killed us
Effort - getting your a** out and guarding the 3

Were our guys playing hard? Some where, but IU played harder, period..and no I"m not turning this into a BCG thing.

Look at the end of the game when IU got a shot clock violation and they were seeing if it touched rim or left his hand...if it had done both, an IU guy was there for easy offensive rebound and put-back slam..this is at a point where we absolutely needed a stop, or it was 10000% game over, and what happened? An IU player was in perfect position with no one putting an a** on him and pushing him out for a rebound, that was what the entire game consisted of.
 

BlueRunner11

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Mar 26, 2011
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Just go away...this is a horrendous take. Cal can't make people box out and rebound, he can't play defense, he can't force someone to shoot a decent %. Don't put this on the coach, he got this team to be the best possible version at the end of the year and we just didn't have guys step up and perform as they had been of late. Willis couldn't hit 3's, Marcus/Skal couldn't block shots or stop Bryant, and Murray was ice cold.

It's just as much your fault as it is Cal's.

According to your reasoning...then Joker should still be HC of the fball team. It's not his fault receivers can't catch, players can't tackle, and most of the team really just didnt give an ish.

Cal knew what he had and knew their tendencies. And yes Cal can make them do it...he's the effin coach! They do it or they sit. Skal, Lee and Poythress got paraded out there all season and usually got out rebounded by Ulis. Where was Hump yesterday?! Oh he's to slow or its a bad matchup. BS. Couldn't have been worse. At least he plays with some damn passion. I'll take an above average player with some fight over a 5 star going through the motions any day.

And can you not figure out why Murray was cold? They ran a triangle and 2 and face guarded him! The threes he shot were forced and bad shots. Did Cal make any adjustments? No. We still had 4 players standing in cement while Murray and Ulis went one on one. It's not the others being scared...that's "the friggin play!" Or if we get real creative, run Murray from wing to wing off a backsreen. Zero motion, zero movement. Lol.

Look I love Cal and I want Cal here forever but to say it's just as much my fault as it is his is ridiculous.
 
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Levibooty

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The thing about Kentucky fans or at least a lot of them is they can never see a defeat for what it is, they want to blame somebody for their depression. They think somebody let them down because they didn't give enough effort or the coach screwed them personally. Gees guys sometimes the shots just don't fall. Look at the percentages of this game. If we had played our normal game we would have won. We didn't hit our open shots, we didn't play our normal game. IT HAPPENS.

Dang do you really think you feel worse than Murray?
 

Hoskins91_rivals

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The season is basically Skal not being the player he was expected to be and nobody stepped up to fill the void consistently. This class as a whole kinda sucked.
 

KingOfBBN

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Sep 14, 2013
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Not a super difficult loss to handle. We weren't that great. We were in trouble if Murray wasn't hitting and if our bigs didn't give us anything and both happened. Our bigs were just awful.

It's easier to accept a loss like this compared to the 2015 loss to Wisconsin, which we were much better than our opponent.
 
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Yeah Indiana studied the end of kansas game and went from there...


..and it seems we wenter away from what turned our year around. Which was having willis stretch the floor. Seems that Indianas offense scared us into having our defensive unit out there most of the gaem, and of course all 3 defensive players (skal, poy and lee) gave us jack all game. Same thing happened first game until willis finally hit our first 3 of the game, anso that got the offense in motion and we blew them out. The 15 blocks sealed out fate as much as other things.


With that said, I don't think we were going all the way with a win anyways. But an elite 8 or final 4 would have been great
 

lookinfor8

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Dec 30, 2002
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The season is basically Skal not being the player he was expected to be and nobody stepped up to fill the void consistently. This class as a whole kinda sucked.
Skal should have been benched the first of the year.
Humphries gave more than Skal ever did.
I would bet if he played yesterday he would have gotten some
of those put backs Indy put in.
Wouldn't have got backed down in the paint like Lee, Skal, & Alex did.
My ***** is that Cal gave Skal more playing time when it is obvious
this kid got no game.
 

KingOfBBN

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Sep 14, 2013
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Skal should have been benched the first of the year.
Humphries gave more than Skal ever did.
I would bet if he played yesterday he would have gotten some
of those put backs Indy put in.
Wouldn't have got backed down in the paint like Lee, Skal, & Alex did.
My ***** is that Cal gave Skal more playing time when it is obvious
this kid got no game.

That's one thing I don't understand about Cal's decision. After Skal let that airball become an alley-oop dunk, he should have been pulled. He's weak. He has no game at all. We could have used some banger yesterday and Cal just seemed hellbent on sticking with the original plan.

Skal is terrible beyond belief. If any GM drafts that guy, he should be fired immediately.
 
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It'saDoneDeal

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Jul 24, 2007
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Are you out of your damned mind.
Ulis showed he is a better player than Yogi * outplayed him.

Lol. Yogi blew by everyone put in front of him, outside of Briscoe at times. IU's entire offense was based on Yogi blowing by his man to get to the paint and setting up his teammates, which he did again, and again, and again.

Ulis got some baskets late, but Ferrell outplayed him and dictated the game. You'd have to be basketball dumb or a blind homer not to see it.
 
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Wrong.

Effort - boxing out, how many offensive rebounds did IU get that turned into points
Effort - playing defense, Bryant killed us
Effort - getting your a** out and guarding the 3

Were our guys playing hard? Some where, but IU played harder, period..and no I"m not turning this into a BCG thing.

Look at the end of the game when IU got a shot clock violation and they were seeing if it touched rim or left his hand...if it had done both, an IU guy was there for easy offensive rebound and put-back slam..this is at a point where we absolutely needed a stop, or it was 10000% game over, and what happened? An IU player was in perfect position with no one putting an a** on him and pushing him out for a rebound, that was what the entire game consisted of.

Their offensive rebounds didn't kill us. UK actually out rebounded IU. And IU only had 6 offensive rebounds. UK didn't take care of the ball and couldn't hit shots. IU was better last night.
 

KopiKat

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Nov 2, 2006
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Anybody who scouted Indiana just a little bit knew the problem would be their interior mobility on offense and ability maintain an effectively spread defense. They whipped us. And our inability to recognize their length and athleticism was wretched. Anunoby blocking deep shots in Murray's face multiple times, something that hasn't happened all year long, was hard to watch . . . and that's just one example.

Our guards were easily contained in the 1/2 court, and we were doing little or nothing in the way of screen help for better looks. They were responsible for their own shots and it was bad. Our 1/2 court schemes were awful. Indiana's were excellent.

officiating was interesting, and the game may very well have set some sort of record for push off offensive fouls, both squads.

Hate to see Murray and Ulis go out that way. Some posters have argued those two as "the greatest backcourt in UK history." Yet, in one game they demoted themselves to one that will be remembered as just really good. And while it may be taboo to mention, it was impossible to note yet another game where Ulis, Murray and Briscoe felt comfy sharing the basketball only between themselves, and body language of other players on the squad that, not for the first time, appeared annoyed by it. We played adequately to lose.
 
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