This is some serious ********.
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I think it is bad but I saw someone on Twitter that said the pitcher had basically said something on almost every close call. If that was the case then he should have been warned earlier but maybe he just pushed it too far.
I think what was worse is Coastal Carolina's pitching coach getting tossed. He was on a visit to the mound and was stalling while his guy got warmed up. He was talking to the ump and then just got tossed. The players acted like it was completely out of nowhere. I didn't see what the conversation was but it looked like normal just talking. Nothing animated or anything like that.
That’s pretty terrible. Maybe there’s more to the story and the ump had already given the guy a warning, but that’s horrible on two levels
1) The NBA has some of the most sensitive officials in all of sports, but once a guy gets his first tech, he’d have to something pretty egregious for even an NBA ref to toss him. Saying “that’s horrible” would basically never get guy thrown out
2) if there’s a suspension tied to this completely one sided, subjective call, there simply has to be multiple levels that can be reviewed in order to determine punishment. If a guy gets tossed for throwing punches and causing a brawl, I get it. Getting thrown out for verbally making an accurate statement about an umpire’s bad call should most definitely not be a 4-game suspension
1) The NBA has some of the most sensitive officials in all of sports, but once a guy gets his first tech, he’d have to something pretty egregious for even an NBA ref to toss him. Saying “that’s horrible” would basically never get guy thrown out
2) if there’s a suspension tied to this completely one sided, subjective call, there simply has to be multiple levels that can be reviewed in order to determine punishment. If a guy gets tossed for throwing punches and causing a brawl, I get it. Getting thrown out for verbally making an accurate statement about an umpire’s bad call should most definitely not be a 4-game suspension
It’s bad enough that he got tossed but the egregious part of that deal is the automatic four game suspension.
Just one more way college athletes get hosed.
I was watching the UT game last night, and their HC and players were routinely and openly jawing at the home plate ump. I couldn’t believe he didn’t throw any of them out.
I’m not an umpire, and maybe he had enough. That’s not how you handle it IMO, you call the head coach over between innings and say something like “I’m calling the pitches like I see them both ways, I’ve let your pitch blow off some stream, I’ve had enough of the tantrums, no more warnings...and if he acts out again I’m gonna toss him. Suggest you have a word with him so I don’t have to do that.”
I don't have many pet peeves but one of them is umpires that show up thinking they are part of the show.
If the NCAA wants to protect its umpires to that extent, I don't necessarily have an issue with the rule. However, they then need to put some clear verbiage around the term "arguing", and there should also not be an automatic multi-game suspension tied to it.
So would saying "I think that pitch was worthy of being called a strike but I respectfully accept your call" be considered a violation of the rules?
"that's horrible" should get you "that's enough", and a short rope thereafter.
"you're horrible" will get you run every time.
who knows what he actually said.
"you're horrible" will get you run every time.
who knows what he actually said.
I think the "well those are the rules and he should get the full suspension" crowd would be perfect citizens in China. "Oh well, you should know better than to criticize the government, so enjoy your reeducation."
If you watch the video, when the pitcher stares the ump down after the no strike call the ump gives the pitcher the “professional courtesy” of quickly and discreetly pointing to his left to sort of tell the pitcher “hey, I hear ya kid but that pitch was just off the plate on the inside”.
Umps and pitchers have this silent conversation all the time and both are able to get their point across without showing each other up.
In this case the ump gave his silent side of the conversation then the kid showed him up anyway so the ump rang him up.
It was a big time overreaction but it seems like the kid had been silently complaining for a while. Guess the ump had (silently) heard enough.
Umps and pitchers have this silent conversation all the time and both are able to get their point across without showing each other up.
In this case the ump gave his silent side of the conversation then the kid showed him up anyway so the ump rang him up.
It was a big time overreaction but it seems like the kid had been silently complaining for a while. Guess the ump had (silently) heard enough.
This particular ump has been involved in this stuff a lot. The ump likes to get “involved”. Lots of calls for him to be booted.
Me too, and the point they made was valid. They reasoned that the 4-game suspension rule was made for starters, meaning that at most the starter would miss 1 game. For a reliever, he could potentially actually miss 4 games. Perhaps because of that the rule will be changed.
I was sitting behind home plate in Chapel Hill yesterday til leaving for our game. Ump looked to be on point for the most part.
The Vols were just grasping at straws. Also surprised nobody got tossed.
Nope. Just got all red faced and showed the ump up a bit.
Sad thing is the pitch was off the plate. Wasn’t even a missed call.