THIS IS SAD

[cantrebound]

If we only had a guard who had energy that could get a few stealsand average about 6-8 rebounds a game. Oh wait that was Phil Turner, who i believe is playing for Delta State right now. Between kicking him off the team, trying to get Sidney eligible for 1.5 years,not having Bost eligible, and poor coaching, this is what you get. How can you get any rebounds when your 4 is jacking up 3's all night? Our RPI will be in the high 200's tomorrow.

thanks Stans. I still had a little confidence in you before tonight. But your time has come.</p>

 

[cantrebound]

If we only had a guard who had energy that could get a few stealsand average about 6-8 rebounds a game. Oh wait that was Phil Turner, who i believe is playing for Delta State right now. Between kicking him off the team, trying to get Sidney eligible for 1.5 years,not having Bost eligible, and poor coaching, this is what you get. How can you get any rebounds when your 4 is jacking up 3's all night? Our RPI will be in the high 200's tomorrow.

thanks Stans. I still had a little confidence in you before tonight. But your time has come.</p>

 

[Irondawg]

he's not a one man savior. Heck he got suspended for DSU's first couple of games which should enlighten everyone to the fact that while he played hard, he wasn't an angel. We wouldn't be that much better with him or Romero really.

Slightly better, but they dont vault us to a top 25 team.

 

[Paper Dog]

With what Phil did, Rick had no other choice

It really is sad that Phil could not put his team first

 

[cantrebound]

maybe so.I dont really know how motivatedI would be if I went from MSU to DSU to play basketball. He sure did bring energy to the team that we don't seem to have now. I think Stans thought he could bring in Bryant and Steele and they would take up where he left off. these guys may be decent by the end of the season and have shown some life, but this schedule is getting harder every game, except for the SEC west foes minus Ole Miss.

As muchas Stans preaches rebounding, we are getting killed on the boards.I don't understand.

 

[windcrysmary]

good ship lolly pop...

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

he got kicked off of Delta State's team which I'm hoping you don't see as a coincidence.He wouldn't have made a 5 point different tonite anyway.

 

[cantrebound]

You are right, no player would have made a difference tonight. It is apparent that we miss Randy Stewart's defense and Varnado's blocking ability. Going to be a long season.</p>

 

[GloryDawg]

You schedule five games in five days. Take one day off then take a 10 hr flight to another country to play agame and when that is over you are going to fly another 20 hrs to play another game in 17 Hawaii. On the way back you stop in California for a game and then Las Vegas for a game. This is by far the dumbest thing Stans has ever done. Stricklin share in the responsibility because he should have been the grown up and said, Hell No. This is not putting us in a good position to win. I don't care how young you are this is brutal on you. You can tell by the energy put out by the team, they are tired. The coaches are tired and Jack is having flash back to the long nights he had during the 1865 siege ofSt. Peterburg. It is going to get worse. I guarantee it!

As far as the team goes once Bost is back, they are rested and Sidney is in playing shape, they will be good. They will win the West however I think they are going to have to win the SEC tourney to get into the big dance. RPI and SOS is going to be horrible.

 

[JimC1097]

The teams in the west are not any worse than VT... we had better get used to double digit losses...

 

[patdog]

This ridiculous schdule was made to minimize the number of game he'll miss. We had to pick our poison, play a lot of games in a short time or play more games without Bost. Neither choice gives us much chance to win games.

 

[GloryDawg]

lucky for us the West sux and we will not be on a 105 hr playing spree when we play them.You are right VT is not any good but when you shoot what 80% from the free throw and what 70% from the three point. You are going to do good. Like I said, the guys on the team are tired and they should not be in this position. The last gameVT played was on Dec 12. They have had six days rest.(Athome) They should beat us sinply due to the rest.

 

[GloryDawg]

bd

 

[Todd4State]

The coaches knew the deadline. They and everybody else not named Dee Bost knew that he wasn't a NBA pick and him staying in the draft would be a horrible mistake on his part.

And yes, I know that Dee is an adult and should be responsible enough to make sure that he got everything in before the deadline, but when a player is that critical to your team, sometimes, yes you have to hold their hand and MAKE DAMN SURE that they are eligible.

 

[cantrebound]

Good point about the NBA schedule we have played lately. There is no doubt we are tired. At the end of the year, it will still be looked at as a game we played against a mid-levelACC team and got hammered by 30 with Sidney back on a neutral court. We are screwed unless we win the tournament.

 

[cantrebound]

No doubt Stans should have not let Bost go past the deadline. What the hell was he doing at the end of the season? Fishing with Sidney and the kids?

 

[Coach34]

we have no post presence...Sidney is not a Center- he is a small forward stuck in a Center's out of shape weakass body...even with Bost, our rebounding and interior defense is not going to get any better...

Even with Bost, I really dont think this team will be as good as Mississippi or UPig- and we will also lose to Bammer in T-Town when "The Recruiter" gets outcoached

 

[patdog]

Forge Bost's name on a fake withdrawal form? Surely you don't think for a second that Stans knew the deadline and for some reason kept it a secret from Bost. The simple fact is that Bost knew the deadline and was just hellbent on going to the NBA and then woke up the next morning and realized that he'd 17ed up bigtime. The whole "Bost didn't realize when the deadline was" story was just a desperate attempt to get him ruled eligible, and it worked.

I do blame Stans for reruiting one more pre-Madonna drama queen in Bost though. Bost is a dipshit, but he's just one of Stans's many dipshits.

 

[o_GuitarDawg]

he's not a one man savior. Heck he got suspended for DSU's first couple of games which should enlighten everyone to the fact that while he played hard, he wasn't an angel. <span style="font-weight: bold;">We wouldn't be that much better with him or Romero really.</span>

Slightly better, but they dont vault us to a top 25 team.

Are we talking about winning? Or talent-wise?

 

[Todd4State]

Forge Bost's name on a fake withdrawal form? Surely you don't think for a second that Stans knew the deadline and for some reason kept it a secret from Bost. The simple fact is that Bost knew the deadline and was just hellbent on going to the NBA and then woke up the next morning and realized that he'd 17ed up bigtime. The whole "Bost didn't realize when the deadline was" story was just a desperate attempt to get him ruled eligible, and it worked.

I do blame Stans for reruiting one more pre-Madonna drama queen in Bost though. Bost is a dipshit, but he's just one of Stans's many dipshits.

He, one of the coaches, or managers, or whoever goes up to Bost and says "You have to get this in- NOW." And whoever that is, fills it out with Dee and sends it in. Problem solved. Just like you do with a first grader.

And no, I don't think Stansbury kept the deadline a secret from Bost at all. What I'm saying is Stansbury KNEW the deadline, should have made sure that his player knew the deadline- which in fairness to Stansbury he probably did, and then MAKE SURE that when the deadline arrived that the form was sent in.

I do agree that Bost is a dipshit and everyone that starts with the exception of Benock is a dipshit. And unless Stansbury stops recruiting morons, these dipshits will probably be the end of him at MSU.

This happens all the time in college sports- Florida had all kinds of players "protecting" Tim Tebow from people. I know Ole Miss had a guy that took Brae Wright to class when he played baseball there. Dee Bost is a critical part of our team. We should have done whatever we needed to do to make sure he was eligible. It's unexcusable that the whole situation happened.

 

[GloryDawg]

I will bet you that if they don't I will leave the board for six weeks and if they do you leave the board permanently. </p>

 

[Hanmudog]

we have no post presence...Sidney is not a Center- he is a small forward stuck in a Center's out of shape weakass body...even with Bost, our rebounding and interior defense is not going to get any better...

Even with Bost, I really dont think this team will be as good as Mississippi or UPig- and we will also lose to Bammer in T-Town when "The Recruiter" gets outcoached

I don't disagree with anything you wrote because Stans has done a piss poor job so far but I have no idea why you are so high on the guy at Alabama that lost to St. Peter's and came in 8th in an 8 team tourney a few weeks back.

I do think the West is Ole Miss' for the taking.

 

[Coach34]

I will bet you that if they don't I will leave the board for six weeks and if they do you leave the board permanently. </p>

I'll make the bet as long as they are the same

 

[SixtonPackerish]

he got kicked off of Delta State's team which I'm hoping you don't see as a coincidence.He wouldn't have made a 5 point different tonite anyway.

 

[GloryDawg]

bd

 

[GloryDawg]

The loser of the bet can't post the first three weeks of 2011 football season. That sounds even?

 

[Coach34]

The loser of the bet can't post the first three weeks of 2011 football season. That sounds even?

State wins the West- I take 3 weeks off in Sept

Anybody else wins the West- You take 3 weeks off

Clarification- in case of a tie, if State loses head-to-head tiebreaker, I win...tie with 1-1 split or State 2-0 win you win bet

 

[GloryDawg]

I like reading your posts.

 

[LR1400]

Forge Bost's name on a fake withdrawal form? Surely you don't think for a second that Stans knew the deadline and for some reason kept it a secret from Bost. The simple fact is that Bost knew the deadline and was just hellbent on going to the NBA and then woke up the next morning and realized that he'd 17ed up bigtime. The whole "Bost didn't realize when the deadline was" story was just a desperate attempt to get him ruled eligible, and it worked.

I do blame Stans for reruiting one more pre-Madonna drama queen in Bost though. Bost is a dipshit, but he's just one of Stans's many dipshits.

He, one of the coaches, or managers, or whoever goes up to Bost and says "You have to get this in- NOW." And whoever that is, fills it out with Dee and sends it in. Problem solved. Just like you do with a first grader.

And no, I don't think Stansbury kept the deadline a secret from Bost at all. What I'm saying is Stansbury KNEW the deadline, should have made sure that his player knew the deadline- which in fairness to Stansbury he probably did, and then MAKE SURE that when the deadline arrived that the form was sent in.

I do agree that Bost is a dipshit and everyone that starts with the exception of Benock is a dipshit. And unless Stansbury stops recruiting morons, these dipshits will probably be the end of him at MSU.

This happens all the time in college sports- Florida had all kinds of players "protecting" Tim Tebow from people. I know Ole Miss had a guy that took Brae Wright to class when he played baseball there. Dee Bost is a critical part of our team. We should have done whatever we needed to do to make sure he was eligible. It's unexcusable that the whole situation happened.

Agreed. You have to hold their damn hand. They are young and dumbasses. If I felt someone was integral to my team I would know wtf they needed to sign, etc. Maybe dee just would not talk to bury or respond to texts, etc. so bury may not have even known where bost was. Being optimistic.

What are you referring to regarding tebow?

 

[garnth1]

the last day and a half before the deadline. He did manage to send one to KV about an hour before the deadline saying "Staying in". He didn't forget ****.

 

[LR1400]

the last day and a half before the deadline. He did manage to send one to KV about an hour before the deadline saying "Staying in". He didn't forget ****.

Guy is a 17ing idiot.

 

[Todd4State]

Someone told me that some of Florida's football players were with Tebow much of the time on campus to make sure that nothing happened as far as him getting into a bad situation.

It made a lot of sense to me. The guy was a cult hero there, and there are a lot of people that might try to get him to do things- not even bad stuff, but stuff that he may have had a hard time saying no to, like talking to a bunch of kids at a school or something. They were basically just protecting the guy, which is smart considering how much he carried that team. I could imagine that having that kind of attention could be overwhelming in today's age of media.

It also makes sense because I'm sure that there were a lot of people that would have loved to bring him down as well. And especially since the NCAA probably wouldn't allow the school to give him some bodyguards.

 

[mstateglfr]

With what Phil did, Rick had no other choice

It really is sad that Phil could not put his team first

I will never understand why Turner is gone but Bost is still here.

Turner was in contact with an assistant coach and they discussed whether or not Turner would be back. Turner said very clearly that he would be back. But he was let go because, officially speaking per Stans, Turner wasnt clear about wanting to come back and a decision had to be made.

Meanwhile, Bost frigging LEFT TOWN TO BE IN THE REAL VEGAS TO TRAIN FOR THE DRAFT!!! His intentions to not be back couldnt have been any clearer. Per Stans, they never talked at all...ever...about anything. But he is not only back on the team, but the school fought for his reinstatement.

Why not be consistent and say that Bost had to go as well since he wasnt clear about wanting to come back and a decision had to be made?
Its because Stans isnt consistent.

 

[pgddawg]

It hurts to watch our basketball team. People can make excuses for Stans and all but in the end the captain goes down with the ship. He is ultimately responsible for how his players act and play and any good coach understands that. He does not seem to grasp that concept. If they have an attitude or a problem, you don't send assistant coaches to text and call them. Take care of it your damn self and knock some sense into the players.
If you look at the great coaches in basketball, their players have respect for them, trust them, and listen to them. We can sit here in blame our players attitudes and actions on and off the court. But if you put Dee, Kodi, or anyone from our team on a not necessarily storied basketball team, but a respectable coached team, then these problems do not occur nearly as much as they do with Stans. Mullen is a prime example of this. We are not a stand out football school, but when the average to good players trust him and respect him, then you get results...and I seriously doubt Mullen sits there and expects them to respect him. He makes them do it. And he deals with a lot more athletes than Stans.

 

[jamdawg96]

or a teaser on that ****, let me know. I still think we'll win the West. And it'll mean absolutely nothing.

I also think that, despite Stans deserving one more year, this is as attractive of a sell our program has ever been. Major conference, weak division, strong fanbase, new facility, loaded roster, good incoming class, talent-rich state. We could probably make a decent hire.

But we won't make that move.

 

[pgddawg]

Great points. However, One of the best things that would happen if we got rid of Stans that many seem to overlook would be the elimination of the Rick's Rowdies. I understand that a new and equally miserable cult of students would more than likely arise with the arrival of a new coach, but we can always hope they will go into a depression with Rick's departure and lose their intimidating rowdiness. And that my friends is the most embarrassing aspect of our basketball program...all 10 of those 17'ers.

 

[Danhandled5]

Stans is not the weakest link in our coaching ranks.... "he's not done anything to make us fire him" you were the one of the few Hanmu that didn't see the writing on the wall. He's a miserable coach.....

 

[patdog]

This happens all the time in college sports- Florida had all kinds of players "protecting" Tim Tebow from people. I know Ole Miss had a guy that took Brae Wright to class when he played baseball there. Dee Bost is a critical part of our team. We should have done whatever we needed to do to make sure he was eligible. It's unexcusable that the whole situation happened.

Therewas never any question of Tebow not doing the right thing. BreaWright wound up getting kicked off the Mississippi baseball team. Guess all the "taking care of" inthe world isn't enough for some players.The fact is Bost was in the sameframe of mind as Kramer was when he was about to leave for California and told Jerry, "Up here, I'm already gone." You can't make sombody like that go to class, because in his mind, he was already gone.And you certanly can't force him to sign a document he refuses to sign. If he ignored 60 text messages, do you somehow think he would have signed if Stans or Kirby had showed up at his door and said, "You have to sign this now."