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WVU82_rivals

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Flynn talks to Russian Ambassador....OUTRAGE !!!!

Hilliary sells 20% of our uranium to Russia... chirp, chirp

Who are the crazy people again ?
 

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dave

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So now we know how the press caught wind of Flynns discussions with Russia. Did Obama instruct them to leak it to the press?
 

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I read this last night. Read the article. There is a quote in there where it says no evidence of wrong doing.
And it's not exactly new info is it? Did anyone NOT know the Trump team was talking to the Russians last year?
 

bornaneer

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Maybe the crackpot shouldn't have discussed sanctions withe the Russians? Maybe the nutjob shouldn't have lied to the Veep? Nah, it's the leftover Obamas (Obamaian's?) and the media's fault.
It's about much more than Flynn.....leaks.....leaks.....leaks.
 

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It's about much more than Flynn.....leaks.....leaks.....leaks.
And I guess that has nothing to do with the President's leadership abilities? POTUS got a lot of mileage during the campaign by pitting staffers against each other. That strategy doesn't seem too conducive with governing. Someone needs to be in charge. (please don't be bannon, please don't be bannon, please don't be bannon).
 

dave

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Maybe the crackpot shouldn't have discussed sanctions withe the Russians? Maybe the nutjob shouldn't have lied to the Veep? Nah, it's the leftover Obamas (Obamaian's?) and the media's fault.
Seems like breaking the law by passing along sigint to the media is probably just as bad as discussing sanctions with the russians.
 

bornaneer

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And I guess that has nothing to do with the President's leadership abilities? POTUS got a lot of mileage during the campaign by pitting staffers against each other. That strategy doesn't seem too conducive with governing. Someone needs to be in charge. (please don't be bannon, please don't be bannon, please don't be bannon).
Leadership abilities? If Flynn broke any laws he should be held accountable......so far we have not seen any legal action against him.
 

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Leadership abilities? If Flynn broke any laws he should be held accountable......so far we have not seen any legal action against him.
His ability to stop his WH from leaking like a sieve. He ran a campaign that purposely divided and conquered the electorate, trashed the generals and intel committee, and pretty much **** all over all the career politicians. I think acts and words of reconciliation would have done him wonders. Are they even having policy discussions in his first 100 days? I's argue that's bad leadership, or more precisely, no leadership.
 
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His ability to stop his WH from leaking like a sieve. He ran a campaign that purposely divided and conquered the electorate, trashed the generals and intel committee, and pretty much **** all over all the career politicians. I think acts and words of reconciliation would have done him wonders. Are they even having policy discussions in his first 100 days? I's argue that's bad leadership, or more precisely, no leadership.
The funny thing is, he was warned that shitting on intel could bite him in the ***. His *** is officially bitten.
 

bornaneer

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His ability to stop his WH from leaking like a sieve. He ran a campaign that purposely divided and conquered the electorate, trashed the generals and intel committee, and pretty much **** all over all the career politicians. I think acts and words of reconciliation would have done him wonders. Are they even having policy discussions in his first 100 days? I's argue that's bad leadership, or more precisely, no leadership.
First he has to find the source of the leaks. I seriously doubt that "his WH" is doing any leaking. Just who should he be more reconciliatory to?
 

dave

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You know, it was the FBI (deepthroat) who ultimately brought down Nixon. Give that a little thought.
So when this blows over and nothing more comes of it, are you and the rest of the idiots who are creaming your pants over this going to stay upbeat or are you going to go back to whining about some new irrelevant topic?
 

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Leadership abilities? If Flynn broke any laws he should be held accountable......so far we have not seen any legal action against him.

Logan Act ... possibly ... I doubt we see legal action though, I'm sure the resignation will be deemed adequate enough.
 
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So when this blows over and nothing more comes of it, are you and the rest of the idiots who are creaming your pants over this going to stay upbeat or are you going to go back to whining about some new irrelevant topic?
Didn't you ask me the same question right before Scooter was indicted, convicted, sentenced and commuted?
 

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Al Awaki had the right to remain silent, he didn't, and now he is. That is a win. Sorry, don't agree with that one statement.
Thank you. Some of the same people who insisted after 9/11 that dealing with terrorists - including US-born ones - was for the military and not for law enforcement (as we did with the Blind Sheik who masterminded the first WTC bombing in 1993) want to lay flowers on al Awalaki's grave and snivel about denial of due process. They want to call Obama, Hillary, Flynn, Bo Berghdal, Bradley Manning, and the barber down the street traitors, when in fact al Awalaki is the textbook example of what the Framers meant when they put the definition of treason in the Constitution. I guess we could have sent a SEAL team into Yemen to grab him and bring him back so he could be thrown into Guantanamo without a hearing. [eyeroll]
 

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First he has to find the source of the leaks. I seriously doubt that "his WH" is doing any leaking. Just who should he be more reconciliatory to?
Government, the media, the Earth's population to name a few. I also think there is no doubt some/most of these leaks are coming from his WH (not necessarily the Flynn stuff).
 

Popeer

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If Trump goes down....and I'm on record that he will bail before four years....It will be fun to watch how you embrace Pence.
At least Pence has been governor of a state and understands a little bit about the Constitution. Trump says he's never read it -- reading is for losers and he's a winner, don't ya know.
 

Popeer

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First he has to find the source of the leaks. I seriously doubt that "his WH" is doing any leaking.
Really?

At the time of his departure, Flynn appeared to have been losing a power struggle inside the White House in which the established institution and processes of the national security council (NSC) were being sidestepped by a small group of Trump advisors, led by Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist and former head of Breitbart News, which has been a platform for the far right.

Alongside him are Stephen Miller, another rightwing ideologue, and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and adviser. They have set up the Strategic Initiatives Group, a parallel institution to the national security council inside the White House, which produces policies, in the form of quick-fire executive orders and memoranda, without consultation with the staff experts on the NSC.

Ignored at best, berated at worst, the NSC career staff began leaking copiously about Trump’s erratic phone calls with other world leaders and other missteps, infuriating the president, who ordered leak investigations, further deepening the discontent and dysfunction inside the White House. Any successor to Flynn would face the same struggle for influence and the president’s ear as he did.