This dook undefeated BS

[stuway]

It ain't happening. In don't care if they have the top 20 picks. Our 15 team that made it to 38-0 was destroying people the same way at the first part of that season

But as the season wears on and you ain't lost, so does the pressure. Not to mention its always difficult in conference with rivalries and schools used to playing you.

They won't go undefeated and won't win the NC. We will. We have the best mix and Cal knows how to get teams rolling by March.

I'm so sick of dook handy's being given out. Hell yes they are good, but they ain't the best thing since sliced bread.

They ain't winning the title, hide and watch. Screw dook, I like our team they crushed. Bet if we play again in March, we win. Bring it. And everyone quit being little bitches.

 

[akaukswoosh]

As I've said before I'd LOVE to see Dook 38-0 heading into the Final Four.

 

[BlueBomb]

I love your enthusiasm, but I think Duke is as good as advertised. No, they won't go undefeated. But damn, those guys are super talented. I would not be surprised at all if they go 37-3 and win the whole thing.

And I don't think we have the right pieces to win it all. But I certainly hope you're right and I'm wrong. Matter of fact, I just said a short prayer to the big cat in the sky saying, PLEASE let stuway be right!!

 

[TortElvisII]

Our 15 team played 5 on 5.

This Duke team doesn't.

 

[CatsPaws270]

They are young and not very deep.

Now they may be dominant in a tournament setting, but they will lose a game at one point. This is the most games they will have ever played. Wait until they see road games and people hating on them in those arenas. They'll get in foul trouble....they'll have a bad night.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I'd prefer to watch UK stay within 20 points of Duke before our fans start talking about how the pressure will eventually get to them.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

They are young and not very deep.

Now they may be dominant in a tournament setting, but they will lose a game at one point. This is the most games they will have ever played. Wait until they see road games and people hating on them in those arenas. They'll get in foul trouble....they'll have a bad night.

They’ll drop some games for sure but I honestly think Zion and RJ are going to love going into those road game environments.

 

[Jpthegame]

They are young and not very deep.

Now they may be dominant in a tournament setting, but they will lose a game at one point. This is the most games they will have ever played. Wait until they see road games and people hating on them in those arenas. They'll get in foul trouble....they'll have a bad night.

Duke will lose, multiple times, zero doubt.

But I hate the narrative that they aren’t very deep. Just not true. They are getting really quality minutes from experienced guys coming off the bench. 8 guys playing double digit minutes (uk has 9). White gives them 7 rebounds a game (uk only has one dude avg 7 rebs a game and that’s Richards with his anomaly game 2). AOC is shooting 55% from 3.
You can make stats say pretty much whatever you want and this isn’t to claim Duke has unlimited depth or even “better” depth than uk. However, It’s also not the liability that everyone makes it out to be.

 

[topps coach]

As I've said before I'd LOVE to see Dook 38-0 heading into the Final Four.

That would be my worst nightmare and I don’t think it will happen.Imo the ACC is to loaded for us to get through unscathed.Think y’all would have had a different outcome if you had lost s game or two instead of being 38 and 0.Causes too much pressure on you gives the other team even more incentive

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

I think it's pretty clear our fans aren't worried about Duke winning it all.

That's why we've been creating 10 to 12 threads/week about them since Zion committed to Duke last January.

Nope, not worried about those guys at all.

 

[YouKay]

Virginia may beat them. Don't really see anyone else in the ACC doing it. UNC will run with them and that's a recipe for losing. They will get a #1 seed and an easy draw in the tournament and we will all be pissed about it. But historically Duke teams struggle once they get to the regionals. I would like to see them matched up with a physical team like WVU or Michigan/Michigan State.

I'm not sold on Tre Jones getting them to a championship, but then he's probably as good as Marquis Teague was.

 

[EliteBlue]

As I've said before I'd LOVE to see Dook 38-0 heading into the Final Four.

If I could guarantee a win over them, that is how I would want it.

But man, I would be sick to my stomach if they were 39-0 and in the championship (especially if it wasn't up to us to stop them). If they get that close the NCAA will take over and make sure King K gets that stand alone accomplishment that nobody else has achieved.

IMO they'll drop one of the UNC games or some random game on the road like we did to USC in 2010.

 

[caneintally]

Yawn ... zero chance at Duke going undefeated. Hell very little chance they lose less then 2-3 games . They play , like UK does , in a great conference and you will lose on the road when you do that. Now Duke won't lose til January though IMO as there non con schedule is a joke.

 

[meeks66]

Our 15 team played 5 on 8.

This Duke team plays 8 on 5.

There fixed it for you!

 

[LadyCaytIL]

I'd prefer to watch UK stay within 20 points of Duke before our fans start talking about how the pressure will eventually get to them.

People don’t know when to shut up sometimes. You don’t talk sh*t to a team that just beat you by 34. It says a lot about the character of a person that does.

 

[TomTraubertsBlues]

Agreed. If they have a shooting night like last night against the right team, they will lose. I think their starters were 1-11 from 3.

 

[stuway]

People don’t know when to shut up sometimes. You don’t talk sh*t to a team that just beat you by 34. It says a lot about the character of a person that does.

Dude I'm not talking crap about dook. They are freaking great. I'm talking more about our fans doom and gloom approach since the dook game. Yeah, we got spanked, but it is freaking November.

I'm not talking crap about dook at all. Just saying they won't go undefeated or win and NC. If that's talking crap, then we have different definitions of smack talk. Saying a team is great, but won't win every game or a title doesn't fit that bill in my mind.

Talking crap would be saying they suck or are overrated. I'm saying they are great, but let's not anoint them just yet.

But my main point is, we have a great team, with depth and a great coach. I just don't get so many who sound as though they've already given up on our team in Nov.

 

[Cowtown Cat]

I think there's a good chance they drop a game as soon as next week. Possible matchups with Auburn and/or Gonzaga in Maui.

 

[Cowboys&Wildcats]

In the tournament, point guard play matters and as good as those three guys are, Duke doesn't have a point guard. Tre Jones is the point guard by default but he's not even a fraction of the player that his brother was, that will ultimately be their downfall.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

Dude I'm not talking crap about dook. They are freaking great. I'm talking more about our fans doom and gloom approach since the dook game. Yeah, we got spanked, but it is freaking November.

I'm not talking crap about dook at all. Just saying they won't go undefeated or win and NC. If that's talking crap, then we have different definitions of smack talk. Saying a team is great, but won't win every game or a title doesn't fit that bill in my mind.

Talking crap would be saying they suck or are overrated. I'm saying they are great, but let's not anoint them just yet.

But my main point is, we have a great team, with depth and a great coach. I just don't get so many who sound as though they've already given up on our team in Nov.

We’re not beating duke this year unless they have injuries or suspensions. Cal’s never going to play the way that’s needed to beat them because getting players drafted means more than changing things up and winning

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

In the tournament, point guard play matters and as good as those three guys are, Duke doesn't have a point guard. Tre Jones is the point guard by default but he's not even a fraction of the player that his brother was, that will ultimately be their downfall.

Well there you have it folks,Tre Jones is the PG by default.

 

[Emarc]

Probably better than Alcindor’s ‘69 Ucla team. :eyes:

 

[Cowboys&Wildcats]

Well there you have it folks,Tre Jones is the PG by default.

Yea, he is. Who else is going to start at PG, Jordan Goldwire? There you have it.

 

[Col. Angus]

Our 15 team played 5 on 5.

This Duke team doesn't.

They also don’t have to, really.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

Yea, he is. Who else is going to start at PG, Jordan Goldwire? There you have it.

Why isn’t he a PG? And what about his game is going to cause him to be Duke’s downfall?

 

[Cowboys&Wildcats]

Why isn’t he a PG? And what about his game is going to cause him to be Duke’s downfall?

He isn't that good, he's not a knockdown threat from outside, he isn't very quick and he struggles to finish in the lane. He isn't even close to what Tyus Jones was, he is just being masked right now because of the talent around him. Which part do you disagree with?

 

[Hopmix]

Im actually looking forward to them having this amazing season and then not recognizing a single player on next years team. Grass is always greener.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

He isn't that good, he's not a knockdown threat from outside, he isn't very quick and he struggles to finish in the lane. He isn't even close to what Tyus Jones was, he is just being masked right now because of the talent around him. Which part do you disagree with?

I would say you’re mostly right, he’s quicker than you give him credit for though.

Also Duke doesn’t need him to really do all the things you posted for them to succeed. I’m sure they prefer Zion, Reddish, and Barrett to be getting shots instead of Jones. He is a great distributor with great vision. He controls the pace of the game. He’s more athletic and a better defender than his brother. He causes a lot of disruption on defense that doesn’t show up in the box score. But that leads to Duke getting turnovers which lead to transition which is what’ve adult wants. There are better PGs in college basketball but I’m he’s one of the best for what’s Duke needs him to be.

So far 22 assists to 3 TOs.

 

[Hopmix]

Well there you have it folks,Tre Jones is the PG by default.

to be fair Zion Williamson and RJ Barrett can both run point if they wanted. lol . They sort of already play out of position most of the time. Its pretty crazy how much Zion really does remind me of young lebron.

 

[Cowboys&Wildcats]

I would say you’re mostly right, he’s quicker than you give him credit for though.

Also Duke doesn’t need him to really do all the things you posted for them to succeed. I’m sure they prefer Zion, Reddish, and Barrett to be getting shots instead of Jones. He is a great distributor with great vision. He controls the pace of the game. He’s more athletic and a better defender than his brother. He causes a lot of disruption on defense that doesn’t show up in the box score. But that leads to Duke getting turnovers which lead to transition which is what’ve adult wants. There are better PGs in college basketball but I’m he’s one of the best for what’s Duke needs him to be.

So far 22 assists to 3 TOs.

I don't disagree, I just think that when the tournament time rolls around, they're going to need him more than what he's being asked to do right now and I don't think he'll be capable of it. Btw, that assist/turnover ratio is misleading, because most of his assists are coming from easy lobs to Zion and Barrett, he isn't really breaking anyone down and setting them up, which also explains his low turnovers. One or two of those guys will have a somewhat off game and that's where I think a team will get them in the tournament, now if Barrett, Zion, and Reddish are all on their game, then you can forget it, no one will beat them.

 

[BlueBlood66_rivals34314]

I don't disagree, I just think that when the tournament time rolls around, they're going to need him more than what he's being asked to do right now and I don't think he'll be capable of it. Btw, that assist/turnover ratio is misleading, because most of his assists are coming from easy lobs to Zion and Barrett, he isn't really breaking anyone down and setting them up, which also explains his low turnovers. One or two of those guys will have a somewhat off game and that's where I think a team will get them in the tournament, now if Barrett, Zion, and Reddish are all on their game, then you can forget it, no one will beat them.

I mean he did pretty amazing in EYBL as well averaging 7.3 assists to 2.1 TOs in his last season. Similar with high school as well. That kind of his game.

 

[STL_Cat]

This kind of thread reminds me of KU boards the weeks and months following the total dismantling we gave them in the Champion’s Classic. Just looks silly. Imo

 

[kyups01]

It ain't happening. In don't care if they have the top 20 picks. Our 15 team that made it to 38-0 was destroying people the same way at the first part of that season

But as the season wears on and you ain't lost, so does the pressure. Not to mention its always difficult in conference with rivalries and schools used to playing you.

They won't go undefeated and won't win the NC. We will. We have the best mix and Cal knows how to get teams rolling by March.

I'm so sick of dook handy's being given out. Hell yes they are good, but they ain't the best thing since sliced bread.

They ain't winning the title, hide and watch. Screw dook, I like our team they crushed. Bet if we play again in March, we win. Bring it. And everyone quit being little bitches.

Duke hasn't destroyed a legit team yet outside of us and we played as horrible as possible. They will lose 10 games this season

 

[jrm693]

It ain't happening. In don't care if they have the top 20 picks. Our 15 team that made it to 38-0 was destroying people the same way at the first part of that season

But as the season wears on and you ain't lost, so does the pressure. Not to mention its always difficult in conference with rivalries and schools used to playing you.

They won't go undefeated and won't win the NC. We will. We have the best mix and Cal knows how to get teams rolling by March.

I'm so sick of dook handy's being given out. Hell yes they are good, but they ain't the best thing since sliced bread.

They ain't winning the title, hide and watch. Screw dook, I like our team they crushed. Bet if we play again in March, we win. Bring it. And everyone quit being little bitches.

I don't have a crystal ball and am just speculating, I sincerely believe that Phil Knight helped build this team to accomplish the 40-0 goal that Cal has aspired to and very nearly accomplished, but it is very odd that after having arguably the top two picks in Cam and RJ and not even being in the discussion for Zion who was supposedly either coming here or more likely attending Clemson and then out of no where he hops over to Duke can't believe there wasnt some huge pull to get it done. I have no contacts and it is just a feeling but I can't see any college team beating this group I believe they will get it done and it sickens me to think it much less say it.

 

[Duke Bluu]

Tre Jones is an excellent PG and is EXACTLY what Duke needs.

https://www.dukechronicle.com/artic...mance-behind-the-scenes-leads-duke-basketball

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

At the worst they'll have to play top 25 UNC, Virginia, Clemson, Syracuse, Virginia Tech.

 

[Jpthegame]

He isn't that good, he's not a knockdown threat from outside, he isn't very quick and he struggles to finish in the lane. He isn't even close to what Tyus Jones was, he is just being masked right now because of the talent around him. Which part do you disagree with?

He has a 7/1 assist to turnover ratio.
7/0 in the uk game.

 

[Jpthegame]

I don't disagree, I just think that when the tournament time rolls around, they're going to need him more than what he's being asked to do right now and I don't think he'll be capable of it. Btw, that assist/turnover ratio is misleading, because most of his assists are coming from easy lobs to Zion and Barrett, he isn't really breaking anyone down and setting them up, which also explains his low turnovers. One or two of those guys will have a somewhat off game and that's where I think a team will get them in the tournament, now if Barrett, Zion, and Reddish are all on their game, then you can forget it, no one will beat them.

Assists only count if you shake people at the top of the key, spin in the lane, rise up on a big, and whip it behind your back at the last second.

Also, what team can endure an off night from 2 of their 3 best players and expect to win a tourney game? Do you work for hotels.com?

 

[K-Town Kat]

Our 2012 team only lost 2 games and relied pretty heavily on 3 freshmen, with 2 of those guys going #1 and #2 in the draft.

We were not very deep either. Had an outstanding 6th man in Miller and 2 serviceable guys in Wiltjer and Vargas, but we weren't exactly at platoon level.

Granted, this Duke team doesn't have 2 sophomores at the level of Doron Lamb and Terrence Jones.

Going to be interesting to watch. If our 2012 team could go 38-2, this Duke team can certainly be a threat to at least match that kind of record with possibly the top 3 picks in the 2019 NBA draft and arguably the GOAT at the college level coaching them.

 

[BurnerCity]

I don't disagree, I just think that when the tournament time rolls around, they're going to need him more than what he's being asked to do right now and I don't think he'll be capable of it. Btw, that assist/turnover ratio is misleading, because most of his assists are coming from easy lobs to Zion and Barrett, he isn't really breaking anyone down and setting them up, which also explains his low turnovers. One or two of those guys will have a somewhat off game and that's where I think a team will get them in the tournament, now if Barrett, Zion, and Reddish are all on their game, then you can forget it, no one will beat them.

I decided to do a little ctrl+f on the play by play to see if he is really just lobbing up the ball for his assists. Jones has assisted on three dunks this season. All in Duke's game yesterday. Two to Zion. None to RJ. FWIW

edit: at least according to ESPN play by play.