I am tired of people questioning these guys decisions because they didn't accomplish what YOU think they should have. We watched some amazing hoops and had a great time doing it (at least I did). These guys factor a lot of things into their decisions to go pro. I guarantee they don't factor in Joe Blow's analysis on their NBA readiness. Sit back and continue to enjoy the show. Now bash away haters!!!!!!!!!!!!
These guys owe us NOTHING!!!
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Yeah, 99% of the people that whine about it would go pro in a heartbeat if put in the same situation. I know I would.
This post was edited on 4/9 1:40 PM by Starship Seven
This post was edited on 4/9 1:40 PM by Starship Seven
Why would they owe us anything, did we lend them money. The decision is the players, I personally do not think a couple of them are ready and will get drafted in what would be considered a good position. If you are not a first rounder you should think about where you might go if you could improve your game, now the Harrison twins most likely cannot up their stock after 2 years so go stay they are still in the same boat, a couple of others I think will have a rough couple of years in the NBA and if they can make it thru that then they may end up sticking with a team. Only time will tell. Best of luck to them and I personally hope they succeed.
Most of the people that are questioning are those just questioning why a guy would leave school with his draft status as low as some of them are. I question the decision. Doesn't mean I don't want them to get drafted, succeed and make millions. I don't have to agree with everything a player or coach does as a fan of the team. I don't bash them, I don't bad mouth them, I just question if they are making the right decision. Is that not allowed on this board?
I don't think we necessarily owe them anything other than what we owe people in other walks of life. I do think it is our best interest, as fans, to support our players. Fan support is what separates the BBN from other fan bases.
You hit the nail on the head. I want them to all get drafted and be successful. Doesn't mean I agree with all of there decisions. My humble opinion is to only go pro if you know you are a first round lock (In most situations). Otherwise, come back.
This thread doesn't apply to you then. My issue is with posters that think if a player isn't a bonafide future NBA star then he should stay until he graduates or becomes one. I don't think Dakari, Trey or Devin should leave but c'mon! People really think Devin Booker or Trey Lyles will ever see the D league or overseas ball?! Its just ridiculous.
Being reasonable and well thought out is a good way of getting labeled a whiner and selfish fan on this board. I agree with everything you said. I hope the best for each player, but that does not mean that each decision is always the best in terms of money moves going forward.
Nobody owes anybody anything, people just love the cats and are sad to see them go, nobody wants them to fail or anything like that, they are just hurt from the game and this is a message board so people can voice their opinion, there are to many people on here that want to attack anything anybody sez if they don't like it, evrybody is not going to agree so we need to tolerate what others say if it's reasonable. I don't watch or care about the NBA, however I do want former Kentucky players to do well and 4 years at UK never hurt anybody, in todays game UK is never going to have many seniors just like all the other top schools. I wonder if Lamb and Teague are living their dreams right now, I do think if both had stayed one more year, they would still be in the league right now. It seems like to many people only think about MONEY, there is more to life than aspiring to being rich, look at Antoine Walker made over 100 million in his life now he is broke. The best days in the history of Kentucky basketball is the days we won those 8 national championships.
This post was edited on 4/9 12:14 PM by katwest
This post was edited on 4/9 12:14 PM by katwest
There's nothing wrong with fans wanting to build a relationship with players and wanting to see college athletes stay in school. Otherwise, UK is a farm league and people need to deal with that or find another school. I for one think that college is very important and even over sports, but that's just me. Also, NONE of you people saying now that "they owe us nothing group" can't complain next year if we get our butts kicked because we don't have the horses and get knocked out second round. See how that works?
Then go back to cheering for those Tubby days. Guess what (if that happens)? You won't have to waste $3K on Final Four tickets and gripe here and complain the players didnt put it in the effirt
SEE HOW THAT WORKS!!!!!!!
Teague would possibly still be in the league but the report on Lamb is that he is not willing to put in the necessary work to be good or even great. You can't gain that with an extra year of school. That comes from within. As far as the money goes a lot of the kids are changing the entire path/class of their families by making it to the league, cant ask them to risk that.
I wouldn't say players owe fans nothing. After all, if it weren't for fans, these guys would not be about to become millionaires. Without fans, the NBA doesn't exist so there are no professional basketball players. It's simple supply and demand. Regardless of whether or not you have a skill, if there's no market for it, it isn't worth any monetary value.
For the college aspect, being a basketball player at Kentucky is an amazing experience. You get basically everything you want - exceptional living standards, perks, etc. Hell, these guys live in a multi million dollar complex with a full time chef dedicated to them. Without fans, none of that exists (i.e. the difference between UK's basketball program and Union College's). Now, the players don't owe the fans their lives or servitude or anything like that. But it's incorrect to say the fans are owed nothing.
For the college aspect, being a basketball player at Kentucky is an amazing experience. You get basically everything you want - exceptional living standards, perks, etc. Hell, these guys live in a multi million dollar complex with a full time chef dedicated to them. Without fans, none of that exists (i.e. the difference between UK's basketball program and Union College's). Now, the players don't owe the fans their lives or servitude or anything like that. But it's incorrect to say the fans are owed nothing.
Nothing wrong with someone questioning Dakaris decision and forcasting the Twins NBA production and or even saying Booker isnt ready yet. The culture at UK now is pretty much, when it doubt....go pro. I think there is also the element that some kids need to 'save face' so to speak and make the leap as that was the pre-determined choice to come and leave with their fellow 5 star teammates.
I wish them all well, but its ok if Joe Blow states his opinion on a message board.
I wish them all well, but its ok if Joe Blow states his opinion on a message board.
Lol that's bullisht. If there weren't fans none of these would be getting to make millions playing a damn game. They got the best possible NBA prep at UK, exposure, free education and a scholarship for life, yet they don't owe UK or the fans anything. I'm not saying they all owe us four years but if either side was to owe anything it would be the players.
The fans pour money that they actually had to bust their *** at a real job earning, time and energy into supporting them. Players put time and energy into playing a game which they love and would be play even if they couldn't make a dime doing it. It's entertainment to fans, it's what the players depend on to make a living. So again, tell me who owes who and who should be more thankful.
So spare me the stupid they don't owe the fans a thing because if that's the way you want to look at it then the fans damn sure don't owe players anything. That goes for all sports.
Instead of making this stupid argument, what should be said is that the fans and players both owe each other. We wouldn't get the excitement and sorrow from UK if not for them. But they won't be getting a free ride to college because they're good at playing a game or paid to play that game professionally without the fans who financially support the whole system.
The fans pour money that they actually had to bust their *** at a real job earning, time and energy into supporting them. Players put time and energy into playing a game which they love and would be play even if they couldn't make a dime doing it. It's entertainment to fans, it's what the players depend on to make a living. So again, tell me who owes who and who should be more thankful.
So spare me the stupid they don't owe the fans a thing because if that's the way you want to look at it then the fans damn sure don't owe players anything. That goes for all sports.
Instead of making this stupid argument, what should be said is that the fans and players both owe each other. We wouldn't get the excitement and sorrow from UK if not for them. But they won't be getting a free ride to college because they're good at playing a game or paid to play that game professionally without the fans who financially support the whole system.
In the literal sense, you owe them nothing, but they've brought infinitely more joy to your life on an individual level than you have to theirs. It is a rather unilateral transaction, in fact, if we're talking about 1 fan and 1 player.
I don't think anyone feels like they owe us. Some people are saying that you shouldn't put your name in the draft as a Sophomore if you're not a guaranteed 1st pick. I tend to agree with them but couldn't care less what they do.
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people just blowing off steam..get over yourself jacka**...and I am guessing you get bashed a lot, in the face is my guess
Your argument is the stupid one.
The ratio of what they gave you to what you gave them individually is gigantic.
You brought them, say, 1 5 millionth of the total amount of support they received from fans and you didn't train them, Cal did, and every school offers a scholarship. Yes, the fanbase is the reason for the TV contracts, but again, you are an infinitesimally small part of that.
On the other hand, the joy that this team brought everybody is really only split 10 ways - the players had a much, much bigger part individually in bringing you that joy than you have in giving them support. Without you, their year would've been the exact same. If you took away, say, 2 of Booker or Aaron or Karl or Willie, this year would've been way less awesome for you.
No comparison.
Why in the world does it aways come down to OWE ME SUMMIN!!!!!!
This is getting ridiculous. We should just be thankful for what they brought, and they should be (probably are) thankful for what Kentucky has done for them.
If someone thinks certain players shouldn't go, whatever. get some perspective and get a grip.
This is getting ridiculous. We should just be thankful for what they brought, and they should be (probably are) thankful for what Kentucky has done for them.
If someone thinks certain players shouldn't go, whatever. get some perspective and get a grip.