The Yellow Jackets Are Gone

RU62

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Think a little...where does one think the pool of potential people will come from. Probably dome people will be the retirees or others who worked the regular games etc. Mo different than some if the people working at food services in the Audi Club. There are familiar faces seen.all of the time. Hopefully some of the same folks will be interested and hired.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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Think a little...where does one think the pool of potential people will come from. Probably dome people will be the retirees or others who worked the regular games etc. Mo different than some if the people working at food services in the Audi Club. There are familiar faces seen.all of the time. Hopefully some of the same folks will be interested and hired.
So its the same people.. just jerk them around a little by making them work for a private company rather than Rutgers. That's efficient.

"Hey, you know that job you've been doing for 20 years? Showing up on weekends and weeknights to usher for us?

We'd like you to APPLY to a new company to do that same job. And answer to their management. No doubt they will bring in several layers of managers... you'll answer to them now.

I don't know how they will pay those managers and the owners of the company and save Rutgers money.. but it sounded like a good deal when they sold us on it..."
 

Scarlet1984

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So its the same people.. just jerk them around a little by making them work for a private company rather than Rutgers. That's efficient.

"Hey, you know that job you've been doing for 20 years? Showing up on weekends and weeknights to usher for us?

We'd like you to APPLY to a new company to do that same job. And answer to their management. No doubt they will bring in several layers of managers... you'll answer to them now.

I don't know how they will pay those managers and the owners of the company and save Rutgers money.. but it sounded like a good deal when they sold us on it..."

Too funny
 

kupuna133

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So its the same people.. just jerk them around a little by making them work for a private company rather than Rutgers. That's efficient.

"Hey, you know that job you've been doing for 20 years? Showing up on weekends and weeknights to usher for us?

We'd like you to APPLY to a new company to do that same job. And answer to their management. No doubt they will bring in several layers of managers... you'll answer to them now.

I don't know how they will pay those managers and the owners of the company and save Rutgers money.. but it sounded like a good deal when they sold us on it..."
You do not think a private company whose sole responsibility is event security at large arenas and stadium can do the job more efficiently than the people that are presently in charge? The ushers in each section do a great job. The security at the gates are a joke and have been for years. Poorly trained and incompetent. Causing more problems and hassle than deterring problems.
 
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beaced_rivals

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I am in the same section Lou. I shook Amil's hand before every home game for many years. Great guy. I will miss that tradition.
Since it didn't help us WIN too many times,you can now start fresh with a new guy/gal.(I'm in to superstition too)
 

Upstream

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You do not think a private company whose sole responsibility is event security at large arenas and stadium can do the job more efficiently than the people that are presently in charge? The ushers in each section do a great job. The security at the gates are a joke and have been for years. Poorly trained and incompetent. Causing more problems and hassle than deterring problems.

It really depends on why they made the switch.

If they made the switch to bring in a company with security experience, in order to provide better training and more effective security, that could be an improvement.

But if they made the move as a cost cutting measure, with the expectation that the private company could do the job cheaper, then we probably won't see an improvement.

Food service is an example of the latter. Although Sodexo is an experienced food service company, the purpose of bringing them in was to save money. So Sodexo was not an improvement over Rutgers Dining Services. Rutgers Athletics may have saved money, but they received none of the benefits of using a food vendor with more experience than the in-house vendor. Concession stand workers did not receive better training, food quality did not improve, lines were not shorter. Instead Rutgers received cost cutting measures, such as changing fry oil so infrequently that the smell of rancid oil permeated one side of the RAC.
 

kupuna133

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It really depends on why they made the switch.

If they made the switch to bring in a company with security experience, in order to provide better training and more effective security, that could be an improvement.

But if they made the move as a cost cutting measure, with the expectation that the private company could do the job cheaper, then we probably won't see an improvement.

Food service is an example of the latter. Although Sodexo is an experienced food service company, the purpose of bringing them in was to save money. So Sodexo was not an improvement over Rutgers Dining Services. Rutgers Athletics may have saved money, but they received none of the benefits of using a food vendor with more experience than the in-house vendor. Concession stand workers did not receive better training, food quality did not improve, lines were not shorter. Instead Rutgers received cost cutting measures, such as changing fry oil so infrequently that the smell of rancid oil permeated one side of the RAC.
I would not be surprised that Homeland security is mandating a more professionally trained security staff in response to the recent overseas attacks.

There is a big difference between cost cutting and outsourcing in food services vs. security. The concession workers are volunteers from civic and church groups from throughout central jersey. They are not paid employees of sodexo.
 
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Jim_from_RU

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It really depends on why they made the switch.

If they made the switch to bring in a company with security experience, in order to provide better training and more effective security, that could be an improvement.

But if they made the move as a cost cutting measure, with the expectation that the private company could do the job cheaper, then we probably won't see an improvement.

Food service is an example of the latter. Although Sodexo is an experienced food service company, the purpose of bringing them in was to save money. So Sodexo was not an improvement over Rutgers Dining Services. Rutgers Athletics may have saved money, but they received none of the benefits of using a food vendor with more experience than the in-house vendor. Concession stand workers did not receive better training, food quality did not improve, lines were not shorter. Instead Rutgers received cost cutting measures, such as changing fry oil so infrequently that the smell of rancid oil permeated one side of the RAC.
The concessions stink because volunteers are running it during games.
 
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demauroj

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If they get Securitas I'm giving up my season tickets (joking..kinda) .. Seriously you think that the cops on ATVs in the blue lot are bad... If you ever dealt with Securitas (Yankee Stadium, Universal studios) you know what I mean.

I've made my feelings known about Securitas to someone in the Athletic Department.

I will not let my true feelings known in a public forum, but overall negative is an understatement.
 

Zak57

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Probably want a professional private security staff because they will begin to sell beer in the near future.
 
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rube1859

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I'm going to miss Pasquale from Sections 129-130. He was so good and he'd stop by our tailgates a few times every season too when it was a night game (He told us they had to be in the stadium usually 4-5 hours before kick-off, hence he couldn't stop by for any noon kickoffs).
 

Mr_Twister

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Changes like these are often made for politically-correct reasons. Could be a minority-owned business or a business owned by a politician (or friend of a politician or large donor) who might be able to return the favor when university budgets and funding (or donations) are at stake.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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I would not be surprised that Homeland security is mandating a more professionally trained security staff in response to the recent overseas attacks.

There is a big difference between cost cutting and outsourcing in food services vs. security. The concession workers are volunteers from civic and church groups from throughout central jersey. They are not paid employees of sodexo.
I think that is a bunch of hooey. INCREASED security is an additional expense over and above the yellow jackets. They don't need to let go the yellow jackets to increase security because of terrorism. The have cops outside checking bags and stuff now.. yellow jackets have nothing to do with that.

This is JERSEY. My bet is on the contract is lucrative to someone in power.. the Jersey Way.
 

tRUncheon

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It's very telling that most of the complaints are about how nice the ushers were. Nobody's told a story about how an usher stopped a fight or ejected a drunk that fell over onto a child. Some games the last couple of years were just awful due to badly behaved opposing fans, piss-drunk, aggressive, and holding fake tickets. It's sad to see a familiar face go but there is some "rowdiness" that needs to be taken care of
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

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It's very telling that most of the complaints are about how nice the ushers were. Nobody's told a story about how an usher stopped a fight or ejected a drunk that fell over onto a child. Some games the last couple of years were just awful due to badly behaved opposing fans, piss-drunk, aggressive, and holding fake tickets. It's sad to see a familiar face go but there is some "rowdiness" that needs to be taken care of
Now that is a fair critique. We'll have to see if the new crew does any better before assessing if that was the real reason behind the Yellow Purge.
 
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