I hate to say it , but the worst that will come from this is possibly a few scholarships lost over a few years and maybe a year or two of probation and recruiting visit limitations . As of right now , there is no evidence of a mythical second investigation . Additionally , here are the facts : only five of the violations were football. Of those 5, 4 happened under Nuttsack. The Rebs may get wins from nuttsacks era vacated , but so what ? There will be no loss of institutional control . There will be no bowl ban . There will be no fallout . On NSD, ole miss will still sign a top 7 class . They will still be far ahead in their trajectory. This wasn't the "IT" the dogs were looking for . So, to recap: only five violations ( secondary violations) were football . The only one tied to the current staff is the tunsil situation that is already dealt with . There will be no punishment from that . If people were begging and hoping that the only way state could keep up with ole miss is for them to get hammered ... Think again . Instead of wishful thinking and setting yourself up for disappointment ..... Improve your own recruiting and start winning big games . You aren't stopping this train from rolling ... And neither are these minor violations .
The truth about these allegations
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I'm just saying guys ... If it was worse then it actually is I would admit it and say so . It could be a way worse .
Don't worry, we trust you . We know you're a stand-up person and will admit it when wrong.**
Hey,skippy, it doesn't matter what you think you are leading us to believe. We can't help you with your NCAA troubles......idiot
If it helps I've been a reader for years . And I'm the most pessimistic poster that red cup rebellion has . They call me what you guys call that drt guy : eyore.
Additionally , I won't talk **** . Ever . I'm not that type of poster . I'll actually give useful insight on the bad and good. I'll give state it's props when it's warranted .
I don't understand why I should care that allegedly most of the violations are not football and of the football ones,most were under Nutt. Regardless, if there are claims of problems in football and a claim of even one problem under Freeze, isn't that bad for the Ole Miss program, and doesn't it create a cloud over them until final sanctions are issued?
I have no inside information here, but even the Ole Miss statements seem to admit their football program, including under Freeze, is being investigated, and that can't be a good thing for them, regardless of what type of class they sign this year.
I have no inside information here, but even the Ole Miss statements seem to admit their football program, including under Freeze, is being investigated, and that can't be a good thing for them, regardless of what type of class they sign this year.
Only 5 violations? You act like TSUN has commited only 5 violations in the past decade. TSUN reports dozens of violations every year. The NCAA feels that they were not honest about these violation - however many there are.
You're right. They wont do **** for the money, cars, alcohol/drugs, and women. But they will nail your *** for the academic fraud. Bookmark it.
It isn't necessarily good , but it's not a bombshell that will destroy the program . The staff has been telling potential recruits that this was coming for weeks now . This wasn't something that came out and surprised everyone that has interest in playing at UM . Am I saying that there isn't a recruit or two that will decide to play somewhere else because of this ? No . That is a possibility . But it won't hurt the class in a way that will drop them out of the top ten .
You right. Losing 2-3 scholarships is pretty pessimistic for a Black Bear. I was thinking that they didn't like you because you're a dick. I was wrong.
If the staff has been telling recruits about this for weeks, then why is the party line that Pat Forde is the devil for revealing it before this weekend? Why didn't Ole Miss just step out in front of this whole big misunderstanding and reveal it themselves?
I don't really know much about recruiting, and don't put much stock in recruiting rankings. I don't really care if Ole Miss signs a top 10 class this season, and never expected there to be any sort of death penalty lite type sanctions for Ole Miss. My point here is that Ole Miss football is being investigated for multiple NCAA violations, and only because Ole Miss has other sports also being investigated are they able to issue a statement that makes it appear it's no big deal.
Multi-phase process.
1. Get your *** busted for minor infractions that occurred years ago and end up on probation.
2. Be in year 6 of providing improper benefits to lots of top ranked recruits. These deals always implode at some point and each year the probability increases.
3. Piss off lots of other high profile programs with your ******** tactics.
4. Combine 2 & 3 above to get busted again while on probation. The **** hits the fan. Freeze turns from Jimmy Swaggart to Jim Jones and tells everyone you must drink the cool aid.
5. Freeze's unbridled ambition earns him tons of money during his tenure and creates a temporary winner built on total ********.
1. Get your *** busted for minor infractions that occurred years ago and end up on probation.
2. Be in year 6 of providing improper benefits to lots of top ranked recruits. These deals always implode at some point and each year the probability increases.
3. Piss off lots of other high profile programs with your ******** tactics.
4. Combine 2 & 3 above to get busted again while on probation. The **** hits the fan. Freeze turns from Jimmy Swaggart to Jim Jones and tells everyone you must drink the cool aid.
5. Freeze's unbridled ambition earns him tons of money during his tenure and creates a temporary winner built on total ********.
They all had to do with Saunders . Oh don't get me wrong , what happened with him under nutt isn't good . But they will cause wins to be vacated ( there weren't many ) , not a two year bowl ban and loss of 19 scholarships over 3 years .
They're mad at forde because of his intentions . He purposefully chose to release this to the greater public a few days before signing day in an attempt to hurt UM in the recruiting game . He hates UM, he always has . Most of the major recruits knew that UM was being investigated for minor violations that occurred before the current staff was in place. They just didn't know when the info would be released to the public . Forde was very strategic in when he decided to release the info . That's why people hate him .
OK, we got it. You've put this in three different threads now, including the one you started. Either find something else to contribute, get a new message, or face the hammer.
This is ridiculous. You think any national journalist sat on a story to release it on a Friday afternoon - a time period uniformly known to be a news dump where people try to bury bad news - and risk not being the one to break the story just because it's close to signing day? Even if Forde hates Ole Miss, no national sports journalist of his profile is sitting one story longer than necessary to verify the facts and no journalist is hoping to break a big story on a Friday afternoon.
I believe OM will have a top 7-10 class this year. If OM ends up on probation do you keep rolling the dice by meeting the payroll to players and parents who signed scholarships the past 5 years? Do you honestly believe there are no on-going payments associated with current players? This deal will implode at some point. Momma, daddy and player will want their monthly payments.
Totally agree. Story released when Freeze has an in-person audience all weekend with all the big time recruits. Timing may actually benefit the Johnny Rebs.
********, if the momentum was started weeks ago why wouldn't you realease it at the beginning of the year. The cloud hanging over would do more damage if it was released when most of these players were truly undecided, not after they were 90% commited to Ole Miss.
Freeze, "Guys (recruits) there is absolutely nothing related to me or my current coaching staff in this NOA" ... Meanwhile every big recruit there knows they've been paid and promised to be paid in the future. I'm sure they all believe every word freeze says
Question is, will both ever be signed in at the same time?
yea. There is no worries. Signing up on here to act like an MSU fan to attempt to downplay the situation? No worries whatsoever
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