The system isn't rigged, which is why

EERs 3:16

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the Obama asked for Assange's internet connection to be limited and why the Obama admin is rumored to be launching a cyber war against Russia.

Yup, it's all on the level and above board.
 

bamaEER

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the Obama asked for Assange's internet connection to be limited and why the Obama admin is rumored to be launching a cyber war against Russia.

Yup, it's all on the level and above board.
What do Assange's illegal activity and our cyber feud with Russia have to do with 'a rigged system'?
 

EERs 3:16

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What do Assange's illegal activity and our cyber feud with Russia have to do with 'a rigged system'?

Obama is upset because the DNC's e-mail server got hacked, is blaming Russia for it (btw, where's the evidence), and is now launching a cyber war over it.

Illegal for who? Is Assange a US citizen? Is he on US soil?
 

bamaEER

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Obama is upset because the DNC's e-mail server got hacked, is blaming Russia for it (btw, where's the evidence), and is now launching a cyber war over it.

Illegal for who? Is Assange a US citizen? Is he on US soil?
You think it's legal for foreigners to leak classified US information? No.

Again, what does this have to do with a 'rigged system'?
 

EERs 3:16

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You think it's legal for foreigners to leak classified US information? No.

Again, what does this have to do with a 'rigged system'?

If it was classified, what was it doing on Gmail? or other private e-mail servers?

Because it smells of censorship.
 

Airport

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You think it's legal for foreigners to leak classified US information? No.

Again, what does this have to do with a 'rigged system'?

I guess the lesson would be to not put things in email that have classification that could get you in trouble. Also, using govt email servers require you to make them public. My guess is you are mad because it shows your party in a bad light. I doubt if anything in the emails will change very many votes. We all know how crooked Hilliary is and the people who work for her are pretty dubious too. By the way, I'm not sure that it's illegal in those countries to release hacked emails from a non citizen of a different country. You would have to "get" the perp and bring them back.
 

Airport

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You think it's legal for foreigners to leak classified US information? No.

Again, what does this have to do with a 'rigged system'?

I looked up what you asked, and it seems it is not illegal for WikiLeaks to publish those emails.
 

bamaEER

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I looked up what you asked, and it seems it is not illegal for WikiLeaks to publish those emails.
Didn't realize this although it's still a form of piracy and I'd imagine it's just a matter of time before that changes.
 

mule_eer

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I looked up what you asked, and it seems it is not illegal for WikiLeaks to publish those emails.
You do realize that wikileaks has published classified information in the past - the reason why Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning is in prison. You also know that Julian Assange is living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London because he is wanted for sexual assault in Sweden, right? It was that embassy that cut off his internet access, so I'm not sure exactly how that is the fault of this administration. If they would cooperate on that front, why wouldn't they just release him to the US or to Sweden?
 

bamaEER

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I guess the lesson would be to not put things in email that have classification that could get you in trouble. Also, using govt email servers require you to make them public. My guess is you are mad because it shows your party in a bad light. I doubt if anything in the emails will change very many votes. We all know how crooked Hilliary is and the people who work for her are pretty dubious too. By the way, I'm not sure that it's illegal in those countries to release hacked emails from a non citizen of a different country. You would have to "get" the perp and bring them back.
No doubt about being careful with computer files. My whole reason for jumping into this thread was to figure our what Assange and our cyber war with Russia had to do with a 'rigged system'. I'm still baffled.

As for Hillary, yeah she's a real winner and I have no clue what's in store for the next 4 years.
 

Popeer

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You do realize that wikileaks has published classified information in the past - the reason why Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning is in prison. You also know that Julian Assange is living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London because he is wanted for sexual assault in Sweden, right? It was that embassy that cut off his internet access, so I'm not sure exactly how that is the fault of this administration. If they would cooperate on that front, why wouldn't they just release him to the US or to Sweden?
Seriously, why would anyone think that the government of Ecuador would roll over and cut his internet access on our request? It's like Russia extraditing the spy Edward Snowden back to the USA for trial - hold your breath till it happens. I swear, gullible is not in some peoples' dictionaries.
 

bornaneer

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You think it's legal for foreigners to leak classified US information? No.

Again, what does this have to do with a 'rigged system'?
You think its legal for someone to receive and send classified information on a personal non government server as the FBI Director stated happened in his testimony?
 

Popeer

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I guess the lesson would be to not put things in email that have classification that could get you in trouble. Also, using govt email servers require you to make them public.
Bingo on Part A. On Part B, it doesn't matter what kind of server you use, if you're an official or an employee of the government, all of your official communication is subject to public release under the FOIA.
 

Airport

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You do realize that wikileaks has published classified information in the past - the reason why Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning is in prison. You also know that Julian Assange is living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London because he is wanted for sexual assault in Sweden, right? It was that embassy that cut off his internet access, so I'm not sure exactly how that is the fault of this administration. If they would cooperate on that front, why wouldn't they just release him to the US or to Sweden?
The question was is it illegal. What I found was that it isn't illegal for a non citizen to release it when in another country. Maybe, it means that it's not illegal for a Swedish guy to release hacked emails in England from a citizen of another country. Assange isn't wanted for WikiLeaks, more like Dickieleaks. Manning was a US citizen and he was tried in the US, correct? Pretty different from what I said. I think John McCain is trying to get a law passed to correct this.
 

Airport

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No doubt about being careful with computer files. My whole reason for jumping into this thread was to figure our what Assange and our cyber war with Russia had to do with a 'rigged system'. I'm still baffled.

As for Hillary, yeah she's a real winner and I have no clue what's in store for the next 4 years.

We probably won't see her until year 4 because she will be resting up.
 

Airport

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No doubt about being careful with computer files. My whole reason for jumping into this thread was to figure our what Assange and our cyber war with Russia had to do with a 'rigged system'. I'm still baffled.

As for Hillary, yeah she's a real winner and I have no clue what's in store for the next 4 years.

If Hilliary follows her husbands advice about the economy, she will hire Gringrich to get a contract with America and we will all prosper.
 

Airport

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Bingo on Part A. On Part B, it doesn't matter what kind of server you use, if you're an official or an employee of the government, all of your official communication is subject to public release under the FOIA.

Unless you have someone to bleachbit your server after getting a supeona to preserve your emails.
 

Mntneer

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Seriously, why would anyone think that the government of Ecuador would roll over and cut his internet access on our request? It's like Russia extraditing the spy Edward Snowden back to the USA for trial - hold your breath till it happens. I swear, gullible is not in some peoples' dictionaries.

Why would they cut it then? I'd bet it was most definitely at our request. Ecuador's in financial trouble and pissing off the future President of the United States is probably not a path they want to really have to travel down.
 
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Bingo on Part A. On Part B, it doesn't matter what kind of server you use, if you're an official or an employee of the government, all of your official communication is subject to public release under the FOIA.

Not true, there are many exceptions, such as classification and potential infringement of copyrighted material or releasing information that compromises bids or gives unfair advantages.
 

mule_eer

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Why would they cut it then? I'd bet it was most definitely at our request. Ecuador's in financial trouble and pissing off the future President of the United States is probably not a path they want to really have to travel down.
I suspect that's a part of it, but I don't know the answer.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Bingo on Part A. On Part B, it doesn't matter what kind of server you use, if you're an official or an employee of the government, all of your official communication is subject to public release under the FOIA.
Spy? Or whistleblower that had to seek asylum?
 

mneilmont

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You do realize that wikileaks has published classified information in the past - the reason why Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning is in prison. You also know that Julian Assange is living in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London because he is wanted for sexual assault in Sweden, right? It was that embassy that cut off his internet access, so I'm not sure exactly how that is the fault of this administration. If they would cooperate on that front, why wouldn't they just release him to the US or to Sweden?
Surely you are not suggesting the illegality of getting the info as a defense for discovery of the facts? Would you suggest they should be ignored? Assuming they are factual since there has been no challenge.
 

mneilmont

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Bingo on Part A. On Part B, it doesn't matter what kind of server you use, if you're an official or an employee of the government, all of your official communication is subject to public release under the FOIA.
Is it not considered government property? Is there a penalty for destruction of government property? Is there any explanation in hell for not charging the culprit?
 

mule_eer

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Surely you are not suggesting the illegality of getting the info as a defense for discovery of the facts? Would you suggest they should be ignored? Assuming they are factual since there has been no challenge.
I'm not referencing the emails. I'm referencing the classified information that Assange released on wikileaks in the past - may be other instances, but the information illegally copied and provided by Bradley Manning for one instance.
 

mneilmont

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I'm not referencing the emails. I'm referencing the classified information that Assange released on wikileaks in the past - may be other instances, but the information illegally copied and provided by Bradley Manning for one instance.
I didn't detect that. But, would you show a little latitude and answer my inquiries? Thanks
 

Popeer

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Not true, there are many exceptions, such as classification and potential infringement of copyrighted material or releasing information that compromises bids or gives unfair advantages.
Split a few more hairs, you know what I meant. Hillary and her staff weren't passing copyrighted material or other information that's protected by other laws.