The single most disgusting thing...

[Blueworld_3.0]

...isn't UofL Hooker-gate, Dook being gifted with yet another cakewalk to the Sweet 16 (and probably the Final Four) or even losing to IU in a silly, made-for-TV-ratings 2nd Round game.
No. The single most disgusting thing to me is that UNC is even allowed to compete in ANY post-season basketball tournament!
Across multiple decades, under numerous coaches, they successfully CHEATED and committed academic FRAUD on such a massive scale that there shouldn't even be a punishment harsh enough to suit their crimes!
They even had basketball players winning academic accolades for classes they didn't even go to...or, in many cases, DIDN'T EVEN EXIST!
All of this against a backdrop of the NCAA basketball tournament in which the sanctioning organization has the gall to run commercials saying they emphasize academics. It's hard for me to decide who the biggest fraud is in all this...UNC or the NCAA?
If the NCAA does not punish UNC with extreme harshness for making a mockery of the very rules for which it exists to enforce then, it's time to completely burn it all to the ground. If it fails to act, the NCAA will NEVER be taken seriously again. And it shouldn't.

*sorry, rant over.

 

[Boydcat]

Amen brother Amen.

 

[rodgerblue]

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[.S&C.]

Nothing will happen to Duke / UNC

 

[Bluest Member]

Instead the selection Committee full of Duke and UNC Ties made sure to give all the ACC Teams easy paths in the Tourney for cooperation in covering up their scams and scandals.UNC started cheating to be like Rupp and Kentucky in the 50's under Frank McGuire,with ties to New York City organized crime,involvement in the Point Shaving Scandal early that decade(in which they skated with no charges),Dean Smith defended UNC on the McGuire Infractions and took over the team and cheating,where it went to new levels that run so deep in the University,State and Local Politics,and their entire society is a scam,far too many UNC and Duke Alum in high places in the NCAA,Media,and other offices to ever get what they deserve,which would be loss of wins,titles,and death penalty.
Why other members of the NCAA put up with the blatant favoritism and cheating by UNC,Duke,and ACC in general is beyond me,but they need to make a stand against the corruption or abandon the NCAA for a new organization.

 

[WeWant9]

So true. It seemed like last summer, all the stuff about UNC completely disappeared. You'll have a hard time convicing me that wasn't due to UNC returning all their players and being the favorite to win it all. During this season, not a peep unless it was media heads slurping Roy and saying there's no way he could know. Here were are, like what, fives years after these allegations broke and nothing has happened. We got the NCAA saying this isn't their issue, they don't deal with academics. However, they'll hold up a kids eligibility over 7th grade transcripts or ****. It's beyond justifiable, and has made me resent the NCAA anymore.

I would throw up if UNC were to make it to the FF. UNC fans and alum have this attitude of yeah we did it, but go ahead and try to do something. They know it, we know it, the NCAA knows it but nothing will happen. It's just the same song and dance. Screw UNC, and screw the NCAA.

 

[ekywildcat_rivals26726]

Just accept the fact that nothing earth shattering will happen to UNC or Duke, ever. You'll sleep better.

Just curious, but were there no violations at Kansas over the Cliff Alexander case? I haven't heard any more about it, so I'm assuming there wasn't?

 

[loublue22_rivals308424]

It's ridiculous, how can they risk handing them the trophy? Maybe they know they've got the media in their pocket so they don't care.

 

[TNCatfanforever]

They are untouchable and may win another tarnished title to go with the others they already have...

 

[uk78_rivals88018]

As oft said now, Emmert clearly said this was not a NCAA issue but an internal academic one for UNC to deal with. Why that continually gets ignored is just wishful thinking from those who want equal justice and rational behavior. Since when do those 2 descriptions apply to the NCAA?

 

[FickusDuckus]

My step son is at wits end over the UNC fiasco. He is a UL guy, spends a good chunk of money on them as his business is affliliated. Anyhow he looked at me this weekend and said, "U of L spends 10k on a dime store hooker and ESPN runs a half dozen hit pieces and is out chasing former recruits for stories and leading said stories to make news. UNC cheats for 20 years and ESPN is quiet as a house mouse.". He then looks at me and says which do you think is more severe? 20 years of institutionalized fraud or a few rogue coaches handing out impermissible benefits that add up to 2500 a year?

He makes good point. His real point was Carolina will walk while ESPiN looks the other way whereas they have taken UL to task on every detail of hookergate.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

As oft said now, Emmert clearly said this was not a NCAA issue but an internal academic one for UNC to deal with. Why that continually gets ignored is just wishful thinking from those who want equal justice and rational behavior. Since when do those 2 descriptions apply to the NCAA?

Then, at what point does institutional control start and stop in his opinion?
If the NCAA can rule a player ineligible over SAT scores and then vacate wins/Final Four appearances, why can't they do the same for forged grades and non-existent classes? Aren't both examples of academic failure or fraud?
If nothing happens to UNC over this then Memphis, Syracuse and any other program that has ever been penalized because of something academic related should immediately file a class-action discrimination suit against the NCAA for treating certain programs differently than others. How hard would it be to prove?

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

It's ridiculous, how can they risk handing them the trophy? Maybe they know they've got the media in their pocket so they don't care.

Because the media has been complicit in the cover-up. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have heard the UNC academic fraud scandal mentioned during a game broadcast on ESPN or CBS.
Many here like to point to Jay Bilas as the voice in the wilderness when it comes to college basketball. Yet, I haven't heard him take a position one way or another during this. Same goes for Vitale or any number of other talking heads.
It's one of those damned unwritten rules in college basketball...you simply don't speak harshly of coaches in the profession and you certainly don't talk about the dirty laundry of other programs. It's hypocrisy at it highest.

 

[Estil]

All the more reason it's quite sad we let Clown U beat us...I would've loved for us to get a crack at UNC!

Wait till next year I guess...

 

[coolioo1]

For some reason I have made peace with the whole UNC thing. Just think how mad UofL fans will be if UNC won it this year and UofL got another year of post season ban and the 2013 title taken away.

 

[sluggercatfan]

...isn't UofL Hooker-gate, Dook being gifted with yet another cakewalk to the Sweet 16 (and probably the Final Four) or even losing to IU in a silly, made-for-TV-ratings 2nd Round game.
No. The single most disgusting thing to me is that UNC is even allowed to compete in ANY post-season basketball tournament!
Across multiple decades, under numerous coaches, they successfully CHEATED and committed academic FRAUD on such a massive scale that there shouldn't even be a punishment harsh enough to suit their crimes!
They even had basketball players winning academic accolades for classes they didn't even go to...or, in many cases, DIDN'T EVEN EXIST!
All of this against a backdrop of the NCAA basketball tournament in which the sanctioning organization has the gall to run commercials saying they emphasize academics. It's hard for me to decide who the biggest fraud is in all this...UNC or the NCAA?
If the NCAA does not punish UNC with extreme harshness for making a mockery of the very rules for which it exists to enforce then, it's time to completely burn it all to the ground. If it fails to act, the NCAA will NEVER be taken seriously again. And it shouldn't.

*sorry, rant over.

ND..Puke..NC all part of the acc (espn) establishment are untouchables in the eyes of the ncaa...they all have been held up by the three mentioned entities as standard bearers of what college athletics and all three are known cheaters that will NEVER punished no matter what they do

 

[yoshukai]

My step son is at wits end over the UNC fiasco. He is a UL guy, spends a good chunk of money on them as his business is affliliated. Anyhow he looked at me this weekend and said, "U of L spends 10k on a dime store hooker and ESPN runs a half dozen hit pieces and is out chasing former recruits for stories and leading said stories to make news. UNC cheats for 20 years and ESPN is quiet as a house mouse.". He then looks at me and says which do you think is more severe? 20 years of institutionalized fraud or a few rogue coaches handing out impermissible benefits that add up to 2500 a year?

He makes good point. His real point was Carolina will walk while ESPiN looks the other way whereas they have taken UL to task on every detail of hookergate.

Buy yet if we had played North Carolina all of squirtinos army would want us to lose .