The Report?

[bac2therac]

what nonsense--you are still defending her, bac???--she was known as a terrible administrator, a horrible rep of RU in the media and a poor fund raiser, and there was a thick file of her faults floating around--she was a disaster that never got out of her own way--you act like we should rehire her--her firing was all of her own doing--maybe you should email her and hire her yourself--wow a man in love

********...her coaches loved her except of course for the two colossal failures...she had to clean up **** that your boy TP never even thought to do. Admistrative wise she moved things forward. I am tired of arguing with stupid. Criticize her all you want for media gaffes, but she was busy doing work that this athletic department passed on for years. Under her watch wrestling and womens soccer as well as mens soccer flourished and she gave these programs attention unlike her predecessors. If you would take your head out of your *** for just one time in your miserable board existence you maybe you can understand.

and unlike you I am not calling for a fired AD to be rehired and I support Hobbs..too bad you and the Pernetti tards only worry about yourselves

 

[bac2therac]

You may be right. Time will tell. It's still too early in my mind to write it off and assume that the investigation is over, no NCAA infractions were found and we can move on. Maybe, though. There certainly could be issues found related to things like drug testing that might not implicate NCAA reporting, involve issues of student privacy, and we'll never hear about.

The investigation certainly didn't spit out the type of dead-on fire-for-cause findings that a couple of posters claiming inside information were telling us, along with telling us that RU was holding on to that information until after the last game only then to first Flood for cause.

Let's hope the results weren't that bad, and the investigation has allowed RU to better administer important aspects of its athletic department.

this is true...note we are paying out Julie and Flood a lot of money. They apparently didn't have enough for cause so how truly horrible was it? Clearly there wasn't good in the report but I believe there has been a spin put on how bad it was.

 

[WhiteBus]

My guess is that there are more than a few in this thread (and it is pretty obvious who they are) who are hoping that the report is "bad" and that it is leaked to the press, even if there are no NCAA reportable infractions. SMH.

Hated Flood, loved Julie so you can scratch me off your list

 

[BuggsyRU]

I bet you were one that believed Flood when he denied talking to the professor. Go back and stick your head in the sand.
And you do understand that people at Rutgers worked on the investigation along with the law firm.

Why are you always such a dick on this these boards? Really? I bet if your wife read half the **** you post here, she would be deeply embarrassed by you.

You will be once gain proven wrong, as you always are....when nothing, absolutely nothing comes out.

Now grow the F up.

 

[WhiteBus]

Why are you always such a dick on this these boards? Really? I bet if your wife read half the **** you post here, she would be deeply embarrassed by you.

You will be once gain proven wrong, as you always are....when nothing, absolutely nothing comes out.

Now grow the F up.

Proven wrong???? You have no clue. Seriously. This board had a great new feature. You can look at posts from the start of the season. I called Flood being fired in September from the off field issues. Find my posts about his 3 game suspension. Said he was gone back than.
Go find a post where I have been proven wrong. Sorry for you that you still think Flood was a great coach and a great man. He was neither

 

[BuggsyRU]

Proven wrong???? You have no clue. Seriously. This board had a great new feature. You can look at posts from the start of the season. I called Flood being fired in September from the off field issues. Find my posts about his 3 game suspension. Said he was gone back than.
Go find a post where I have been proven wrong. Sorry for you that you still think Flood was a great coach and a great man. He was neither

I wanted Flood gone before we beat USF to end the 2013 season. Nice try though.

There is no damaging report waiting to be exposed. Nothing. You make **** up....and hope no one will challenge you.

I am embarrassed that you are apparently a Rutgers grad. The most hated person on these boards, by a mile.

You fight with people like a big stupid moron who is too dumb to have a conversation with revealing his idiocy.

 

[ru66]

bac--you are an insane puppy dog

 

[WhiteBus]

I wanted Flood gone before we beat USF to end the 2013 season, Short Bus. Nice try though.

First of all why are you calling me a dick?
You say you wanted Flood gone but argue with me on the same point.

 

[BuggsyRU]

First of all why are you calling me a dick?
You say you wanted Flood gone but argue with me on the same point.

Who said I was arguing with you on that point? That's not what you have been wrong about.

I did want Flood gone....and Hermann gone too. Worst AD we have ever had.

No wonder you loved her so much. She had the same penchant for embarrassing herself and Rutgers every time she opened her mouth.

 

[WhiteBus]

Who said I was arguing with you on that point? That's not what you have been wrong about.

I did want Flood gone....and Hermann gone too. Worst AD we have ever had.

No wonder you loved her so much. She had the same penchant for embarrassing herself and Rutgers every time she opened her mouth.

And why are you calling me a dick? I hope the mods see your posts.

 

[BuggsyRU]

And why are you calling me a dick? I hope the mods see your posts.

Because you simply cannot have a conversation with someone with a different point of view without insulting them.

So I'm going to give it back to you EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Learn to communicate without acting like a 6th grade bully and people won't call you a dick.

 

[WhiteBus]

Because you simply cannot have a conversation with someone with a different point of view without insulting them.

So I'm going to give it back to you EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Learn to communicate without acting like a 6th grade bully and people won't call you a dick.

Where have I insulted anyone here. You called me a dick. I have not used fowl language on any thread. But you go out of your way to call me a dick. It seems you are the one that had issues. And ignored board rules.
Your stated intent to keep calling me a dick should get you suspended from this board

 

[BuggsyRU]

Where have I insulted anyone here. You called me a dick. I have not used fowl language on any thread. But you go out of your way to call me a dick. It seems you are the one that had issues. And ignored board rules

First off, it's foul language, not FOWL language....unless you are saying I speak like a bird.

Secondly, you know damn well what I am talking about. You try to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion, whether it's calling them a fool, or clueless, or head in the sand, or whatever way you chooses that day to disagree with someone...which is pretty much ALL THE TIME.

I called you a dick because of that, and if you ever want back over the last couple years and looked at how you correspond with people here with a different opinion of yours, I bet you would be embarrassed by your own actions.

You really need to grow up and stop with the bully tactics and insults. Add long as you don't, I will be here to tell you you are acting like a dick.

 

[WhiteBus]

First off, it's foul language, not FOWL language....unless you are saying I speak like a bird.

Secondly, you know damn well what I am talking about. You try to belittle everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion, whether it's calling them a fool, or clueless, or head in the sand, or whatever way you chooses that day to disagree with someone...which is pretty much ALL THE TIME.

I called you a dick because of that, and if you ever want back over the last couple years and looked at how you correspond with people here with a different opinion of yours, I bet you would be embarrassed by your own actions.

You really need to grow up and stop with the bully tactics and insults. Add long as you don't, I will be here to tell you you are acting like a dick.

You seem to be the one that grows up. You came out of no where to attack me. And this response is proof that you just want to stalk my post no matter how mild they are. I have used any bad or inflammatory language against you but you seem bent on calling me a dick. Have no clue why you started attacking me but you don't care about any facts. You just want to attack me. Hope the mods see this nonsense and do something about it

 

[RU848789]

You keep using the word infractions. That's not what we're talking about--at least not me.

Once word of the report being finalized started circulating, people were told that the "report" DID NOT contain possible NCAA infractions. However, it did paint Julie in a very poor light as the manager in charge of making sure all of her teams were following INTERNAL policies and procedures related to drug testing.

Nothing Barchi said contradicts that.

The report does not contain NCAA violations. There is no other shoe to drop about the report. However, what people are saying is the report DOES contain evidence that Julie did not do a good enough job fostering a culture of compliance with the already established university policies and procedures related to drug testing. And she paid for those mistakes with her job.

I think this it's very plausible there were no NCAA violations, but that there were egregious internal errors made by Julie, given what we've seen, especially with regard to how quietly Julie left - there really must've been some dirt on her to leave without a fuss.

I also believe if there were any NCAA infractions, we would have had to come clean on them as soon as we knew about them. Covering up infractions can be far worse than just having infractions (especially minor ones) - self-reporting is always the best path with any potential infractions. So, I don't believe there were any infractions.

But having said all that, I'm not convinced there couldn't be some "other (non-NCAA-infraction) shoe to drop" in this situation. As der pointed out, it took months for the Rice video to surface and it's possible there are embarrassing revelations to be found in this report, which could still see the light of day in the future. The Rice situation was not about NCAA infractions, which are usually centered on institutional lying or cheating to gain some athletic advantage (typically with cutting academic or eligibility corners and/or providing unfair economic benefits to players).

No, the Rice mess was about abusive behavior by a coach (no "advantage" there - look at the record, lol), compounded by horrible judgment by an AD in not firing said coach immediately upon seeing the video (as I said, the cover-up is always worse than the deed). Let's hope there really is no other shoe to drop, but I won't believe we're out of the woods until quite some time has passed.

 

[RUonBrain]

bac--you are an insane puppy dog

Why do you hate so much?
Hate Bac, and LOATHE JULIE?

How can you not give her ANY credit for what she did for the non-prime sports?
Why did all of those coaches supposedly love her?

Did you meet JULIE and not hit it off?

Or are you still upset about Pernetti getting fired?

 

[BuggsyRU]

You seem to be the one that grows up. You came out of no where to attack me. And this response is proof that you just want to stalk my post no matter how mild they are. I have used any bad or inflammatory language against you but you seem bent on calling me a dick. Have no clue why you started attacking me but you don't care about any facts. You just want to attack me. Hope the mods see this nonsense and do something about it

I attacked you, you little crybaby, because you wrote this to me after I completely disagreed with you said there is nothing BAD out there yet to come out.... like you say there is:

You wrote:

"I bet you were one that believed Flood when he denied talking to the professor. Go back and stick your head in the sand."

That is not me calling you out unprovoked. It is in direct response to you making yet another jerk-off comment to someone who has a different opinion than you. How in the world did you come to the conclusion I attacked you first, and more importantly, unproved....when you clearly attacked me first?

Then to cry to the mods about it?

Like I said, you can't just respond to me, or anyone else in a friendly manner. You right away have to go on the attack against people. Like you are too untelligent to have a civil discussion and must refer immediately to hurling insults.

Embarrassing, and if you went back and looked at your posts, you would agree.

So like I said. Grow up!

 

[bac2therac]

Why do you hate so much?
Hate Bac, and LOATHE JULIE?

How can you not give her ANY credit for what she did for the non-prime sports?
Why did all of those coaches supposedly love her?

Did you meet JULIE and not hit it off?

Or are you still upset about Pernetti getting fired?

I think Julie pissed in his geritol

 

[WhiteBus]

I attacked you, you little crybaby, because you wrote this to me after I completely disagreed with you said there is nothing BAD out there yet to come out.... like you say there is:

You wrote:

"I bet you were one that believed Flood when he denied talking to the professor. Go back and stick your head in the sand."

That is not me calling you out unprovoked. It is in direct response to you making yet another jerk-off comment to someone who has a different opinion than you. How in the world did you come to the conclusion I attacked you first, and more importantly, unproved....when you clearly attacked me first?

Then to cry to the mods about it?

Like I said, you can't just respond to me, or anyone else in a friendly manner. You right away have to go on the attack against people. Like you are too untelligent to have a civil discussion and must refer immediately to hurling insults.

Embarrassing, and if you went back and looked at your posts, you would agree.

So like I said. Grow up!

Did I call you a dick? You already complained to the mods about me in the past. You have issues and need a time out from this board. You have zero respect of others

 

[RU5781]

Wait...I'm back?!?

 

[RU848789]

Wait...I'm back?!?

Yep, you and Christy Canyon...

 

[ruhudsonfan]

Wait...I'm back?!?

There goes the neighborhood

 

[Upstream]

Wait...I'm back?!?

Welcome back. Does this mean you're going to tell us the backstory about you and Flood?

 

[RU5781]

Welcome back. Does this mean you're going to tell us the backstory about you and Flood?

Considering I am just allowed back, it's probably not a good idea right now. Haha.

 

[BuggsyRU]

Did I call you a dick? You already complained to the mods about me in the past. You have issues and need a time out from this board. You have zero respect of others

I have zero respect for others? You're a joke that isn't funny. You have no problem being a douchebag to pretty much everyone on here that thinks differently than you, then once someone calls you out for your obnoxious behavior towards others, you instantly become a big crybaby.

I knew kids like you growing up....who tried to bully people either with words or actions....then once they were put in their place they became nothing but a shrinking violet, crying to their mommy. In this case, you're crying to the mods.

I wish you would either show respect for others who don't share your opinion....or just go the hell away.

You know damn well others have told you the exact same thing about not getting along with others. That's a fact that you cannot dispute.

Look at yourself in the mirror and you will realize that the way you address people who don't agree with you is childish and completely immature for a grown man.

So yes, I do have issues. I have issues with you. Not anyone else on this board. You act like a jerk, and I will call you out every single time, and if that means calling you a dick, it's fully deserved. I haven't called anyone else on this board a dick ever. Just you.

 

[RU05]

what nonsense--you are still defending her, bac???--she was known as a terrible administrator, a horrible rep of RU in the media and a poor fund raiser, and there was a thick file of her faults floating around--she was a disaster that never got out of her own way--you act like we should rehire her--her firing was all of her own doing--maybe you should email her and hire her yourself--wow a man in love

And this is why I don't think "the report" is the reason she was fired. It was a bad hire right off the bat given she had a bullying incident on here record, and as you say, from then on, she could not get out of her own way.

Same with Flood, given his own transgressions, plus those of his players, plus the play we saw on the field this season, he did not need the report to get canned.

Maybe for each of them it was one last straw thrown onto the pile, but I don't think it was the driving force for either.

 

[ru66]

bac-- why don't you hire her to shovel snow with you---I said from the outset I hoped she would do well but heard and saw for myself her many failings that never stopped--now for all you guys who really know little but defend her, you need to stop dreaming--it's really annoying that someone who needed to be fired is being given sainthood by the uninformed--when those around here stop trying to build a statue for her I'll shut up and your dumb insults are beyond stupid

 

[Knight Shift]

In a season of peace on earth and good will to men, when we have a renewed sense of hope with a new coach and AD, some in Scarlet Nation can't bury the hatchet.

 

[bac2therac]

bac-- why don't you hire her to shovel snow with you---I said from the outset I hoped she would do well but heard and saw for myself her many failings that never stopped--now for all you guys who really know little but defend her, you need to stop dreaming--it's really annoying that someone who needed to be fired is being given sainthood by the uninformed--when those around here stop trying to build a statue for her I'll shut up and your dumb insults are beyond stupid

YOU SURE TOLD HIM

 

[bac2therac]

In a season of peace on earth and good will to men, when we have a renewed sense of hope with a new coach and AD, some in Scarlet Nation can't bury the hatchet.

well cant win with a toad or people who failed reading comprehension. His continued assertion that I am anointing Julie a saint is false as usual coming from him as I have already admitted her missteps, saying Hobbs is better suited to raise money for the practice facility and you have not see ONE post on here from me bitching that she was fired. This guy lives in his own delusional world where Kate Sweeney is looking in his window

 

[BeKnighted_rivals]

There is no other plausible explanation for how the events of Thanksgiving week unfolded. Julie went from thinking she was meeting with Barchi to discuss Flood's future, to having a meeting with him that lasted 7 minutes because her replacement had already been hired. Anyone with exposure to large organizations can read between the lines. Things don't unfold that way--with a protected class employee (not trying to be purposely inflammatory, but I feel it's important to the story line)--unless the big boss is holding a full house. Barchi said something to Julie, in under 15 minutes, that got her to accept being fired and agreeing to a non-disclosure. You can't fire the guy who runs the string trimmer on one of your crews that fast in 2015. That Barchi fired a $275k employee in under the time it takes to get Dominoes is very telling to me.

Firing always is pretty quick when it happens. We don't have any particular reason to think that Hermann expected that the meeting with Barchi was going to be a pleasant one - you don't get called to the President's house on a Sunday for good news or a general planning session.

And the scenario that's been talked about repeatedly on this board - she was told to raise the money to replace Flood and couldn't - provides more than a sufficient basis for Barchi to show her the door. Also, I would expect that her silence is a result of a pretty straightforward termination agreement that gave her something she wouldn't have gotten under her contract - accelerated payment, a bonus that she could have gotten if she stayed, etc. - in return for a nondisclosure.

 

[Caliknight]

I'm proud of RU. They actually handled this extraordinarily well for once.

 

[Knight Shift]

well cant win with a toad or people who failed reading comprehension. His continued assertion that I am anointing Julie a saint is false as usual coming from him as I have already admitted her missteps, saying Hobbs is better suited to raise money for the practice facility and you have not see ONE post on here from me bitching that she was fired. This guy lives in his own delusional world where Kate Sweeney is looking in his window

I'm with you on this.
I found it easier to ignore certain posters. It has made for a much more enjoyable Scarlet Nation.

 

[RutgersROB]

Did I call you a dick? You already complained to the mods about me in the past. You have issues and need a time out from this board. You have zero respect of others

Didnt you accuse me of complaining to the mods as well when I NEVER did any such thing...is that ur scapegoat like the lil boy the cried wolf

Maybe he is right and it is you

 

[ru75]

Didnt you accuse me of complaining to the mods as well when I NEVER did any such thing...is that ur scapegoat like the lil boy the cried wolf

Maybe he is right and it is you

Where is mildone when we need him. peace on Earth to posters of good will

 

[ru66]

bs--you still dream of her at night