The Players Don't Get Anything

[mjj_2K]

Non-responsive again. You used the term labor, they are not employees as had been determined by multiple federal courts. Now, let's get to the real truth of the matter.

Only a small group are good enough out of high school to go straight to the NBA. The others need something called coaching. Let's take PJ as an example. Out if high school I'm sure PJ thought he was a OAD. He was not, he wasn't ready, he needed Cal. Cal is a very valuable commodity. I wonder what the value of 1 on 1 time with Cal is worth? Well, I hope you have really deep pockets. All the while, PJ is slowly becoming a known player due to UK's high profile, opportunities and TV time. Huh, I wonder what that branding is worth. Again, I hope you have really deep pockets.

I could go on and on with the very real value these kids are realizing. Your entire thought process on this is wrong. These kids who play college ball and then go to the NBA already have a great compensation package, it is simply deferred while its building value. That is why these kids choose to go to school instead of the G league or sitting out or overseas.

It's a business decision that rewards them handsomely and the system that does this for them requires tons of revenue to function. That's just the way it is.

I was going to let this drop, but your take on this is so profoundly illogical I just can't.

The reason courts have ruled that players aren't employees is because the NCAA doesn't want players to be employees. So they can continue to use a structure where the players are denied a huge chunk of the revenue they generate, while everyone else gets fat.

You want a simple test of the truth of that? If, tomorrow, UK, Duke, and 8 other universities said "Screw this. We're leaving the NCAA and we're going to pay our players 100K a year on top of other benefits", would the courts step in and rule that illegal?

Of course not. It's idiotic to even consider it. If 10 schools were willing to do that, it would be 100% legal.

So stop using Catch-22 as a "it must be this way defense" of a totally corrupt system.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I was going to let this drop, but your take on this is so profoundly illogical I just can't.

The reason courts have ruled that players aren't employees is because the NCAA doesn't want players to be employees. So they can continue to use a structure where the players are denied a huge chunk of the revenue they generate, while everyone else gets fat.

You want a simple test of the truth of that? If, tomorrow, UK, Duke, and 8 other universities said "Screw this. We're leaving the NCAA and we're going to pay our players 100K a year on top of other benefits", would the courts step in and rule that illegal?

Of course not. It's idiotic to even consider it. If 10 schools were willing to do that, it would be 100% legal.

So stop using Catch-22 as a "it must be this way defense" of a totally corrupt system.

Lol, wow. That actually made sense to you didnt it.

 

[mjj_2K]

Lol, wow. That actually made sense to you didnt it.

It makes perfect sense to anyone who chooses not to stick their head up their butt about this.

You like the current system. I get it.

Stop trying to act like it's the only possible system. It's not. It's a system that universities choose to use because it's currently to their greatest benefit.

If certain universities thought a different system would be to their greater benefit, and that system included acknowledging athletes as employees and paying them salaries, it would be PERFECTLY LEGAL for them to do so.

If you can't see that, then you're a flat-earth bozo whose thoughts have nothing to do with objective reality.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

It makes perfect sense to anyone who chooses not to stick their head up their butt about this.

You like the current system. I get it.

Stop trying to act like it's the only possible system. It's not. It's a system that universities choose to use because it's currently to their greatest benefit.

If certain universities thought a different system would be to their greater benefit, and that system included acknowledging athletes as employees and paying them salaries, it would be PERFECTLY LEGAL for them to do so.

If you can't see that, then you're a flat-earth bozo whose thoughts have nothing to do with objective reality.

Lord,,,,,I never claimed otherwise. Why are you on this bizarre tangent? Please show me where I said anything to the contrary.

 

[Lost In FL]

I get great health care. I also get to work from home whenever I want, paid trips to other cities in the country, parental leave, free food, discounts on other stuff, and a lot of other perks that most other people don't get at their job. If I feel like I'm not being paid my worth, does that mean I should walk away because the average person don't get the same benefits I do? Or should I argue/fight for what I feel is fair pay?

Congrats and you're free to do what you want. That is what should be great about the US. However, if you are not productive for your boss and all you do is ***** all the time, then he may find you not worth it and he/she may move on. Or let you move on. You chose to work there.