Any refs out there that can explain it to us. Replay clearly showed that not one but two TT players batted it into back court . If one of our players had gone into back court to get it that would have been ok . Why was it an infraction just because Nick was already in back court .?
The over and back call
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What replay are you watching? We definitely tapped the ball into the backcourt.
It was a loose ball we didn’t have possession
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"A pass or any other loose ball in the
front court that is deflected by a defensive player, which causes the ball to go into the backcourt
may be recovered by either team even if the offense was last to touch the ball before it went into the backcourt.”
Seems to be the wrong call according to the rule. Since Texas Tech deflected the ball and UK (even though they were the last to touch it) never recovered posession.
"A pass or any other loose ball in the
front court that is deflected by a defensive player, which causes the ball to go into the backcourt
may be recovered by either team even if the offense was last to touch the ball before it went into the backcourt.”
Seems to be the wrong call according to the rule. Since Texas Tech deflected the ball and UK (even though they were the last to touch it) never recovered posession.
Before it was tipped toward backcourt and AH caught it...why didn't he just come down with it and start a dribble rather than passing quickly/blindly to Nate (?)?
No the TT player deflected it into back court . Clearly .
This ^^^ It doesn't matter who is last to touch it if TT tapped it and it became a loose ball (which is what happened) UK was free to touch it. It was a blown call no need to have a ref explain it.
He was in the air not touching floor.
I honestly think it was only called because of the way nick caught and got rid of the ball. You could tell he was unsure if it was over and back and that gave the ref all he needed. The question is simple. If nick had just caught the ball in the back court and dribbled it up, would it have been a violation? I think not.
Irrelevant because it shouldn’t have been over and back even if nick caught it in the backcourt.
If it had not been a loose ball, the call would have been right, but clearly it was a loose ball. Hagans controlled it at one point but then it was tipped into the air again. So, since it was a loose ball, it shouldn't have been a backcourt violation. They screwed it up.
We had team control in our frontcourt. We tapped the ball and Richards jumped from backcourt and caught the ball. At that point he still had backcourt status while in the air which means it was the correct call.
It was the wrong call, plain and simple. That was UK ball. They messed it up.
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anon_013cn8yrfncx2
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Pretty sure that Maxey tapped it toward the back court, making it the right call. Nick had never established himself in the front court.
Thot it was wrong myself until I saw replay
Thot it was wrong myself until I saw replay
Obviously we watched a different game.
You do know it doesn’t matter who tapped it last. That’s not how the rule works. Someone even quoted the NCAA rule earlier in the thread.
I think if Ky was ruled to have had possession of the ball then it was the correct call because NR didn’t establish himself in front court before catching the ball. That being said I don’t think KY had possession so it didn’t matter where Nick was when he caught the ball. Bad call.
My take...they ruled that we had possession in the front court. At that point, the half court line is out of bounds. Nick was 'out of bounds' and jumped in bounds while receiving a pass.
edit - if TT had done the same it would have been a play on. No doubt in my mind.
edit - if TT had done the same it would have been a play on. No doubt in my mind.
It was the wrong call. Refs often mess up the over and back call.
Also, the shot clock never started on the whole thing
It doesn’t make any difference about the possession it is who touched the ball last before it goes into the backcourt. I think it was us and Nick jumped into the air but hadn’t landed in the front court before he touched the ball.
The ball was deflected by tech - that’s means no over and back
how about the stolen tap in ot? oh wait the guy was so much shorter than richards maybe it wasn’t.
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anon_013cn8yrfncx2
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I don’t think so. If a player in the front court passes to a teammate and it gets deflected but still is touched by the offensive player before going into back court, pretty sure that’s over and back.
what about ej not being allowed to come down after challenging another player. that was a big call. wasn’t the move made after ej already reached his apex going for a block against another player with plenty of space to land?
It was a blown call. We did not have possession, so it was not an over and back regardless where Nick caught the ball. Should’ve been our ball.
You quoted the rule and still didn’t get it.
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anon_013cn8yrfncx2
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Maxey did regain possession before the scramble where he hit it last into backcourt.
You have to have possession for it to be over and back. Period. If you do not have possession then that cannot be called as a loose ball.
That was a bad call and some of you REALLY need to learn the rules.
That was a bad call and some of you REALLY need to learn the rules.
Possession or not...the Texas tech player deflected lithe ball into the back court....should not have been over and back.....terrible call (not the only one either)....officiating was bad, but we escaped with a W, fortunately the calls didn’t cost us the game.
A tap is not possession in that situation. That is a scramble for a loose ball.
Go watch the play, the only person who ever had possession was Hagans. He made a pass that was deflected. After that the ball was loose, got tipped one more time by us (but also was close maybe TT touched it there too) to Nick. But it didn’t matter who tipped it by the rule above, possession was never re-established.