Will depend on status of Ron Harper Jr
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RUTGERS 88 Iowa 82
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RUTGERS 88 Iowa 82
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THE OFFICIAL RUTGERS-IOWA PREDICTION THREAD
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How do the refs call this game? Let them play or touch fouls on Myles.
Not a prediction...but a storyline might be the refs allowing Myles to play hard against Garza. A lot of influential voices have spoken up recently saying that Myles hasn't gotten the respect he deserves from the refs. Myles played pretty soft against Purdue, so that wasn't a real test. This is one matchup I'll be watching.
We only get our information from two places, our own eyeballs and what the coaches and media say.
With RHJ: RU 81 Iowa 80
Without RHJ: RU 81 Iowa 80
Next man up has already been proven which is why this team is balanced.
Without RHJ: RU 81 Iowa 80
Next man up has already been proven which is why this team is balanced.
These three posters think Harper is worth:
14 points/gm
32 points/gm
0 points/gm
I am not sure how many points he is worth, but I am pretty sure it's none of those.
I didn’t say he was worth 0. He’s worth his average. But if he was invaluable then why didn’t we lose to Perdue by it? And why did we lose to Ohio State even though he played?
My opinion is the TEAM is greater than the sum of its parts. WITH him he accounts for his average. WITHOUT him someone else stepped up.
I don’t think the transitive properties are a guarantee which, to me, you’re implying.
I get that this is just a prediction thread and the scores people post are not necessarily what they deem to be the "fair line" or whatever, so I'm having a bit of fun.
That said, if you think that on average the score would be the same with him as without him that implies he's worth zero (as in, zero over the replacements, not that he is entirely worthless as a player).
Variance? Certainly no one thinks that we can't win a game with him or lose one without him. And in the post you reply to in addition to yours I included two that were implying his loss was worth way too much.
I think there is some rough transitivity to these things in general, yes, although for sure there are factors like how players fit together etc that will mean you can't always predict exactly the impact a player has by looking at their stats alone.
But again, it seems obviously wrong to me to imply the team is as good without him as it is with him.
With Ron and Cliff, RU 90 - Iowa 80
With Ron, but not Cliff, RU 89 - Iowa 80
w/o Ron and Cliff, RU 88 - Iowa 80
With Ron, but not Cliff, RU 89 - Iowa 80
w/o Ron and Cliff, RU 88 - Iowa 80
Some of you are taking about the hoops equivalent of WAR, wins against replacement.
I think we win. Full stop. We play shower without Ron than with so I predict lower scoring without him for both teams.
And before anybody misunderstands, with a fully-healthy Harper and Cliff:
Rutgers - 91
Iowa - 88
1. RHJ IS playing against Iowa, no ifs/ands/buts. Pike knew he could beat Purdue without him and wanted him 
for Iowa. For whatever reason, he has his best games against Iowa 2018-19 H 16 pts R 27 pts 2019-20 R 29 pts(72/3), Illinois 79/4.
With that said, last year we lost 80-85 @ Iowa
FG 29-63 46% 2pt 22-42 52.4% 3pt 7-21 33%. FT 15-21 71.4%
Iowa 29-55 55.2% 2pt 20-30 66% 3pt 9-25 36% FT 18-25 72%
We are much better offensively this year and we are home.
Rutgers 101
Iowa 94
for Iowa. For whatever reason, he has his best games against Iowa 2018-19 H 16 pts R 27 pts 2019-20 R 29 pts(72/3), Illinois 79/4.With that said, last year we lost 80-85 @ Iowa
FG 29-63 46% 2pt 22-42 52.4% 3pt 7-21 33%. FT 15-21 71.4%
Iowa 29-55 55.2% 2pt 20-30 66% 3pt 9-25 36% FT 18-25 72%
We are much better offensively this year and we are home.
Rutgers 101
Iowa 94
You're probably going to be disappointed. Whatever slack they would normally give to MJ, if any, will be doubly offset by the insane amount of leeway they give to Garza. Expect to see multiple touch fouls on our bigs and half of your hair pulled out over the amount of elbows, hips and and feet shuffling Garza gets away with.
This has been a tough matchup for Iowa over the last two years when we couldn't shoot the 3. This year we are vastly improved and at home. If Harper plays, we really should be confident sbout a victory. Without... still have a good shot. Oskar shooting open 3's against Iowa stinky D isn't the worst matchup for us to go to with no Harper.
With Harper double digit win. Without, single digit
With Harper double digit win. Without, single digit
Does anybody remember a time when Bohannon WASN'T on Iowa? I swear the guy is in his 10th year.
I think he's the key. If Garza is pushing the ball back out to him and he's raining 3s, we're hosed. But if he has an off day, we could steal this one.
I think he's the key. If Garza is pushing the ball back out to him and he's raining 3s, we're hosed. But if he has an off day, we could steal this one.
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