THE OFFICIAL RUTGERS-ILLINOIS PREDICTION THREAD

RUJMM78

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
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A winnable game if Rutgers can minimize long scoring droughts.Its time Rutgers finally won a game at Illinois.

Rutgers 65 Illinois 62
 
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High Quality H2O

All-Conference
May 7, 2022
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Illinois has suffered blowout losses at home to PSU, Mizzou, NW and Indiana.

That means they can be beaten at home.

RU 71 - Illini 68
The 15 point PSU win at Illinois is an interesting data point.
PSU barely played their few taller players in that game.
Average height of PSU across all minute played by them was about 6’4”.
However they shot 12-24 from 3.
I don’t think anyone sees us nailing 12 3s tomorrow.
But it can be done. We just can’t be cold as balls either.
 

rob kight

All-American
Oct 22, 2020
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Set up screens for Cam and will make 12 threes by himself. Seriously between Cam, Hyatt and Oscar. 10 threes are possible. Need Caleb to play cleanup and get put backs and stay away from shooting 3’s. Ok if Paul wants to contribute a few threes. Need to get Cliff going with some PNR
s.
 
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Scangg

Heisman
Mar 19, 2016
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49,387
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I can see this as a bounce back win or Mag loss really showing up and things go real bad

We have a severe size disadvantage without Mag if Hyatt us on Hawkins but my main concern is posts on Illinois board about Hawkins on Paul

If that happens, I think it's a game changing move that shuts down Paul and our entire offense sputters. That's a lot of size and athleticism on Paul
 

NewJerseyHawk

Heisman
Jan 11, 2007
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This isn't about Mag, who actually wouldn't matchup well against this type of roster or Iowa, Indiana etc....this is a relatively easy game to isolate.

If you are removing Indiana making circus shots and layups and shooting 73% from the floor in the 1st 12 minutes of the game, IU went 8 minutes without a basket. IU finished 45% from the floor.

Illinois is more athletic 1 through 4 than Indiana, but that doesn't mean it should equate to more effective offense.

When Illinois struggles, it is the typical way most teams do......keep them (Terrance Shannon) out of transition. If you make Illinois (like Indiana) run their offense, RU will get stops and limit them to 1 shot.

The flip side of this game for RU is really simple. Paul Mulcahy must come off the basketball and avoid overdribbling. Illinois is much like what we saw vs Indiana, who actually defended at a higher level than usual. IU made RU possessions a disaster when Paul was being forced to dribble or move sideways or back up, instead of passing the ball and moving without the ball.

The problem is, RU is really more stationary and has to make crisp passes. Which means Cliff could be turnover prone out of the post.....Mulcahy needs to avoid turning it over when he has it and Caleb needs to also be more aware and get his shot attempts along the baseline and wing.

This is a repeat of the IU game. Playing Palmquist and letting him take 6 to 7 threes, early in the shot clock is better than asking Paul to overdribble/create and lead to easy baskets.

Hyatt also needs 12 to 14 shot attempts....early offense is probably better than holding onto the ball late in the shot clock and hoping we can find Cam Spencer.

RU has a talent gap vs Illinois, who has a much more talented roster 1 through 10 or so. But, I just don't see the adjustments made quickly enough by Illinois coach Brad Underwood. He is probably the one coach I just don't see enough out of him and his staff on a game in-game out basis. I really like RU and Pike and our staff way more for 40 minutes.

I think we'll see enough production from Hyatt, Palmquist and Simpson and I just can't imagine Illinois stopping Cliff all game. I also don't see another no-show by Paul and Caleb, so even if the RU bench isn't huge like it was vs Indiana, it will be enough.

RU 68, Illinois 62
 

richthedentist

All-American
Aug 2, 2001
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This isn't about Mag, who actually wouldn't matchup well against this type of roster or Iowa, Indiana etc....this is a relatively easy game to isolate.

If you are removing Indiana making circus shots and layups and shooting 73% from the floor in the 1st 12 minutes of the game, IU went 8 minutes without a basket. IU finished 45% from the floor.

Illinois is more athletic 1 through 4 than Indiana, but that doesn't mean it should equate to more effective offense.

When Illinois struggles, it is the typical way most teams do......keep them (Terrance Shannon) out of transition. If you make Illinois (like Indiana) run their offense, RU will get stops and limit them to 1 shot.

The flip side of this game for RU is really simple. Paul Mulcahy must come off the basketball and avoid overdribbling. Illinois is much like what we saw vs Indiana, who actually defended at a higher level than usual. IU made RU possessions a disaster when Paul was being forced to dribble or move sideways or back up, instead of passing the ball and moving without the ball.

The problem is, RU is really more stationary and has to make crisp passes. Which means Cliff could be turnover prone out of the post.....Mulcahy needs to avoid turning it over when he has it and Caleb needs to also be more aware and get his shot attempts along the baseline and wing.

This is a repeat of the IU game. Playing Palmquist and letting him take 6 to 7 threes, early in the shot clock is better than asking Paul to overdribble/create and lead to easy baskets.

Hyatt also needs 12 to 14 shot attempts....early offense is probably better than holding onto the ball late in the shot clock and hoping we can find Cam Spencer.

RU has a talent gap vs Illinois, who has a much more talented roster 1 through 10 or so. But, I just don't see the adjustments made quickly enough by Illinois coach Brad Underwood. He is probably the one coach I just don't see enough out of him and his staff on a game in-game out basis. I really like RU and Pike and our staff way more for 40 minutes.

I think we'll see enough production from Hyatt, Palmquist and Simpson and I just can't imagine Illinois stopping Cliff all game. I also don't see another no-show by Paul and Caleb, so even if the RU bench isn't huge like it was vs Indiana, it will be enough.

RU 68, Illinois 62
We have to run back screens off the ball and movement which we rarely do I don’t know why!!
 

bitnez

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Jan 18, 2006
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Illinois is 7-3 over the last 10. Sounds scary but that includes a sweep of Nebraska, who isn’t good, Wisconsin, who was dealing with injury issues, OSU after they checked out and Minnesota. The only really good win since Jan 1 is MIch St. They lost to NW, Indy and Iowa.

We play hard on the road winning at Purdue and NW, and we had every chance to clip Indy. This is a winnable game and I expect us to be right there. For most of the week I was thinking L, but I’ve flipped

RU 68
IU 66
 

RuBird

Heisman
Jun 28, 2001
19,160
24,861
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Caleb passes the ball and plays D we win
Caleb shots the ball and plays D we lose
 

RUfromNJ

All-Conference
Oct 23, 2007
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Bounceback games for 4 and 22, but not enough for us in that building today.

70-64 Illinois.
 

RUJMM78

Heisman
Jul 25, 2001
26,302
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I can see this as a bounce back win or Mag loss really showing up and things go real bad

We have a severe size disadvantage without Mag if Hyatt us on Hawkins but my main concern is posts on Illinois board about Hawkins on Paul

If that happens, I think it's a game changing move that shuts down Paul and our entire offense sputters. That's a lot of size and athleticism on Paul
Hawkins could also get in early foul trouble if Paul drives to the basket .What I do knosw is that Rutgers won't win the game with Paul and Caleb only scoring four points.
 
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Hawkins on Paul

If that happens, I think it's a game changing move that shuts down Paul and our entire offense sputters. That's a lot of size and athleticism on Paul
All the more reason for Paul to limit his dribbling and RU have a lot more ball movement on offense. Also,I wouldn’t mind seeing them push the ball up court every chance they get
 
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