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Rville/Swain and MH/Draughn winners have the most to gain/lose in seeding. MA/ER/NR will likely remain right where they are.
 
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All I hear is BK talking about how far down Mount Airy should be and how good Robbinsville and Swain are. I tell you like this we play whoever is on our schedule and we don’t just beat them we destroy them and our starters have played past halftime one time all year and that was against starmount which we ended up winning by 32. Mount Airy could play any team on any of you alls schedule you keep bragging about and win except for maybe Rueben Gap. I M not sure they couldn’t win that game as well but would be tough. So we will finish taking care of business in the regular season and then wheeeever we fall in seeding we will be glad to face anyone whether it be home or away. Just be careful what you ask for because I wouldn’t be wanting the bears headed to your stadium especially after hearing all that bragging about how tough you all are and how weak mount airy is. I hope everyone stays healthy the last two weeks so there is no excuses when you have to walk the walk to back up all that bragging. We coming starting in 3 weeks so buckle that chin strap up because it will be time to “HIT SOMEBODY”!!!!!!! They can take that rpi and shove it lol
Show me proof that all I talk about is how good robbinsville is. I really doubt you could find one post that says that but your mental so it's a mute point.
 
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Keep living in the past BK when it was mainly the mountain teams because the teams down here were 2A and even 3a some years when you all were winning all those titles. You keep feeling good and I hope you all are #1 so you can make it to see that *** whipping coming to the Big Oaks. Smash mouth football died years ago and I guess that is why other than Mitchell there has been no mountain boys in championship game in last 7 years. You will find out very soon and then you can get on the wrestling band wagon
No MTN. Teams???
Robbinsville 3
Murphy 3 or four
Cherokee 1
 
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I am gonna end the day with this…..why would you want to piss the bears off with all this crap. The last thing you would want is to have to face an angry bear team. Go Bears!!!!
I can't figure out why "this crap" as you said would piss off anyone. I could say team 1 and team 2 to discuss this. It's nothing to do with MA.
 
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Ok guys I’m tired. Going to watch Astros/Rangers. 2A posters are arguing over strength of schedule. Sound familiar? For the last time, out of my fingers anyway, strength of schedule is not included in NCHSAA RPI rankings. Y’all can bash system all y’all want. It might be on way out as some have suggested but again if you look at end results, not seeds but how teams at top of RPI finish, it gets pretty dang close. Have a good night everyone and see y’all in another thread.
 

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My problem with rpi is this. If you look at Max or Simmons etc. M.Airy for example SOS is mid 20s and probably will be 30;or so but yet they are 3 in rpi but was 1 recently.
How does that make sense considering Rville Swain ER have played a much tougher schedule?
It doesn't make sense to me.
Swain has played a tougher schedule but was behind them all season even though they both undefeated. Seems to me MA should be farther behind IF owp+
I think any team that is a defending undefeated State Champion be it Mount Airy or whoever should have the #1 seed in the east or west and then go by the RPI for all others. That team should have that respect for their accomplishment of winning the State Championship the previous year. The next State Champion that is not Mount Airy will feel the same way. I can just hear the next State Champion complain about the same thing if it is not Mount Airy.
You done been told last years state championship has nothing to do with this year do you not get that????
 
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You done been told last years state championship has nothing to do with this year do you not get that????
As you have said many times, if you don't like my post put me on ignore or this is a message board to voice your opinion on ! Are you the leader of the pack now ? Also, why do so many always say that the State Champion team is always the #1 team until they are beaten ?
 
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MaxPreps has MA #1 because their system has MA as the best. That has nothing to do with maxpreps sos ranking. Two different things.

Yes you can see the rpi. So basically as long as YOU can see it then it doesn't matter how off it is?

So the owp+oowp= sos then why is MA ranked so high in owp+oowp? Because rpi doesn't rank SOS but instead it goes by records which is flawed.

No way we continue with this system.
It's been used enough now that most can see it's off.

I personally think it should be MA then Rville.
Most folks would say the same.

And no I don't think we should ever use last year's results to determine this year. That's would be worse than the RPI.
My point was all you see is the sos on MaxPreps what I want to know is when you have 3 undefeated teams and all you are told by the ranking system is their SOS and the team with the worst sos is ranked higher so I just want to want else go into the ranking? Why be secret about it? It maybe the greatest system of all time but know one but MaxPreps knows what it is. You just think it or another system is better because it agrees with your opinion so basically you want an opinion pole.
And like it or not every system uses wp then owp+ oowp for sos no matter who's it's just how the only two variables are used it comes down to what math formula you put them in.
Looks like you'd be happy wether you agree with the rpi or not if maxpreps was still use for seeding Robbinsville would be traveling at some point in the playoffs. Mt Airy should be the ones who hate it.
Yeah like I said in my option Mt Airy is the best but let's say you have a year were you really don't know and you have a undefeated team in a really tuff conference plus schedules really tuff non-conference teams to play then you have another undefeated team you just played cupcakes teams all season then should that team be ranked higher then the other team? How else would could you measure which one should be ranked higher shouldn't the first team be rewarded for playing the harder schedule?
 
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My point was all you see is the sos on MaxPreps what I want to know is when you have 3 undefeated teams and all you are told by the ranking system is their SOS and the team with the worst sos is ranked higher so I just want to want else go into the ranking? Why be secret about it? It maybe the greatest system of all time but know one but MaxPreps knows what it is. You just think it or another system is better because it agrees with your opinion so basically you want an opinion pole.
And like it or not every system uses wp then owp+ oowp for sos no matter who's it's just how the only two variables are used it comes down to what math formula you put them in.
Looks like you'd be happy wether you agree with the rpi or not if maxpreps was still use for seeding Robbinsville would be traveling at some point in the playoffs. Mt Airy should be the ones who hate it.
Yeah like I said in my option Mt Airy is the best but let's say you have a year were you really don't know and you have a undefeated team in a really tuff conference plus schedules really tuff non-conference teams to play then you have another undefeated team you just played cupcakes teams all season then should that team be ranked higher then the other team? How else would could you measure which one should be ranked higher shouldn't the first team be rewarded for playing the harder schedule?
I agree Rville might be traveling if we used MaxPreps depends.
Even still I like it much better. Has ZERO to do with opinion poll. 😳
Rip is a joke. You not going convince me.
SOS>rpi.
 
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I agree Rville might be traveling if we used MaxPreps depends.
Even still I like it much better. Has ZERO to do with opinion poll. 😳
Rip is a joke. You not going convince me.
SOS>rpi.
BK Good morning. Man you never sleep…
Sorry we can’t convince you that your almighty, subjective sos is not a good thing. You have put your foot down huh? That’s a very open minded thing to do. I said I wasn’t coming back to this thread didn’t I? It’s partly because I like your way of thinking, for the most part, except for your stubbornness on this.
Again get some sleep man!
 

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As you have said many times, if you don't like my post put me on ignore or this is a message board to voice your opinion on ! Are you the leader of the pack now ? Also, why do so many always say that the State Champion team is always the #1 team until they are beaten
So if a defending state champ doesn't win a game the next year then they should still be the #1 seed bc what they did the year before. Come on man.........
 

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Bigger problem is 5 rounds in playoffs for football is a joke! Too many teams get in that shouldnt. Its all about money! State did away with 11 game season and endowment game but added game to playoffs......so they still get the money! Should kept 11 game season and went to 32 team playoff instead of 64.
 

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The fact that we know and understand the RPI formula is proof that it’s too simple to give a true picture of where teams stack up. While I don’t know or understand everything that goes into the maxpreps or Simmons models, I can look at the results and tell with 100% certainty that they are far better than RPI. MA and Draughn are two examples of teams that should be higher (last year and this year).
 

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Why not use the Simmons ratings/formula in the future. Fact is guys we have no idea of what next year will bring bc there may no longer be a NCHSAA! It may become NCHSL RAN BY THE STATE GOV.
 
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I agree Rville might be traveling if we used MaxPreps depends.
Even still I like it much better. Has ZERO to do with opinion poll. 😳
Rip is a joke. You not going convince me.
SOS>rpi.
Doesn't matter if I can or can not convince you that it is a type of sos anymore than someone doesn't believe 2+2=4 facts are facts. And what I mean by a type is were 2+2 is a fixed equation sos isn't but they all use owp & oowp. Look at NCAA's sos
2*(owp)+(oowp)÷3 the difference is rpi uses
30%(owp)+40%(oowp) and usually matches up to maxpreps or anyone else's sos.
But I do agree when you add in wp for rankings that they give to big a percentage to the oowp and they should lower the oowp to 20% and wp to 40%.
But you can't compare to different systems of which one looks more fair when one of them complete formula is unknown.
 
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MA plays 4 teams ranked worse than #337.
Rville lowest rank team is alleghany at #266.
MA plays 6 teams ranked #266 or worse. 😂

Rville 10 opponents average rank is 169.
MA is 272.
Why would you even bring up SOS if your from MA.
 
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Doesn't matter if I can or can not convince you that it is a type of sos anymore than someone doesn't believe 2+2=4 facts are facts. And what I mean by a type is were 2+2 is a fixed equation sos isn't but they all use owp & oowp. Look at NCAA's sos
2*(owp)+(oowp)÷3 the difference is rpi uses
30%(owp)+40%(oowp) and usually matches up to maxpreps or anyone else's sos.
But I do agree when you add in wp for rankings that they give to big a percentage to the oowp and they should lower the oowp to 20% and wp to 40%.
But you can't compare to different systems of which one looks more fair when one of them complete formula is unknown.
I can compare results though.
 

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BK Good morning. Man you never sleep…
Sorry we can’t convince you that your almighty, subjective sos is not a good thing. You have put your foot down huh? That’s a very open minded thing to do. I said I wasn’t coming back to this thread didn’t I? It’s partly because I like your way of thinking, for the most part, except for your stubbornness on this.
Again get some sleep man!
It is hard to stay away. lol, I have said I was not coming back, and I have seen others say the same but seems most always come back if you keep reading the boards. I said this time I was not going to post as much, and I used to post probably 10 times a day on different threads or post my own threads. I have cut way back on my postings. Good luck to your team until and if they play Mount Airy.
 

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I can compare results though.
Again without knowing how they got there wether the results are better becomes just an opinion.
But we're just beating a dead horse we'll just have to agree to disagree and when it was MAXPREPS I remember people complaining about it so in the end it doesn't matter because nchsaa doesn't care what we think and teams just have to play within the system they have and no matter what win on the field.
 
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Keep living in the past BK when it was mainly the mountain teams because the teams down here were 2A and even 3a some years when you all were winning all those titles. You keep feeling good and I hope you all are #1 so you can make it to see that *** whipping coming to the Big Oaks. Smash mouth football died years ago and I guess that is why other than Mitchell there has been no mountain boys in championship game in last 7 years. You will find out very soon and then you can get on the wrestling band wagon
shows how much this guy watched football. SMC in the past 7 year has been in 5 state championship games and guess what they won all 5 of those state championships with 3 different teams just because we have not been in a state title the past 2 years doesn't mean it is dead. SMC probably has the roughest road than anyone in the state. Not saying no other team is good just the type of style we play. By the time playoffs roll around everyone beat up hurt but they still find a way to win. We night hate each other during conference play but we pull for each other. comes playoff time unless we play each other.