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KDSTONE

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I would change this part to the toxic atmosphere was created by those in power in DC, and they wanted it to seep down to the citizens.

And they love it.
Most Leftists come out of universities where, with admin and faculty cheering it on, they’re able to bully conservative students into silence, cancel scheduled speakers with dissenting views, foster an “agree with our position 100% or we’ll call you a bunch of names” culture. Then down the road when they’re in DC they try this same approach, and it does nothing to help their constituents whatsoever unless they’re into the whole virtue signaling circle jerk thing.
 
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Mac9192

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Most Leftists come out of universities where, with admin and faculty cheering it on, they’re able to bully conservative students into silence, cancel scheduled speakers with dissenting views, foster an “agree with our position 100% or we’ll call you a bunch of names” culture. Then down the road when they’re in DC they try this same approach, and it does nothing to help their constituents whatsoever unless they’re into the whole virtue signaling circle jerk thing.
I'm not saying the Right is good, cause they aren't. But they don't hold a candle to the Left. They are a cunning bunch, evil to the bone. They plant liberals into positions of power, and let that thinking be what most kids hear. Like a pyramid, where it all flows down. What better place to indoctrinate than in education?

It's been said a lot that many parents have sent their kids off to college only to have them come home almost hating them.

I'll bet you $100 to a busted condom that our newest resident @DuckDevil is well educated, and most likely under 30.
 

DuckDevil

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The libs here are a sad few. They piss themselves in excitement over everything Trump says, looking to go "GOTCHA, you bunch of Trump loving, MAGA hat wearing clowns... even when we question Trump. Let that one sink in. Yet they spent over 4 years spinning better than a washing machine.

It only proves they are ONLY interested in their side winning, when the sad reality is, we are all losing. Right now, and I have to admit it, it appears to not matter who sits behind the big desk. Sleepy Joe slept behind it, but the results were the same.

They remind me of the guy that has been wearing the pie in the face for years. Most due to their own making. They now stand behind the door waiting for their sweet revenge, only to have the door smashed into them, in turn wearing the pie yet again.
Your constant whining regarding criticism of Trump and the Republican Party is a bit sad and pathetic. For six years in this thread, you’ve complained about, made fun of, and never shut up about Biden’s health and his ability to perform his duties as president. You’ve spent years attacking not just Biden, but his family as well, while constantly screaming about supposed corruption that, even if true, pales in comparison to what Trump does on any given Tuesday.

That’s not to mention all the times you’ve attacked and belittled anyone who disagreed with you, or all the times you’ve pushed insane right wing conspiracy theories. Quite frankly, hearing you, of all people, complain about toxic behavior is hilarious. You’ve spent years contributing to it, encouraging it, and participating in it whenever it suited your political side.

Yet, in the last election, you voted for a man who is not only older than Biden was and arguably in worse health, both physically and mentally, but who was also unqualified for the job based on the results of his first term. A convicted felon who sought the job only as a means of staying out of prison and who, unsurprisingly, now appears more concerned with interior design, monument building, attending and hosting sporting events, and looting the country than with actually governing or performing his duties as president.

But now, suddenly, it’s supposed to be off limits to point out any of it.

And now that no one in their right mind can defend what Trump is doing, your argument shifts from defending his every action and being his biggest fanboy to “both sides are bad,” and “if only everything wasn’t so toxic.” And you expect people to take you seriously?

Trump is the current president. Republicans currently control Congress, and the Supreme Court. They are responsible for everything that’s going on: the terrible economy, rising inflation, the cost of living, and all the wars Trump has started, as well as the ones he will start in the near future. They own it, and so do you. You voted for him, after all. It’s not like any of this is out of character for him, surprising, or the least bit unexpected. You knew what he was, and you voted for him anyway. You fell for it. He got you. So own it. We all make mistakes. Don’t clutch your pearls now and pretend otherwise.

This is a midterm year, and this election will be a referendum on Trump whether you like it or not. His and the GOP’s performance, or lack thereof, should be discussed and dissected so people can make an informed decision about whether they support this or want the country to move in a different direction.
 

Ghost of Dattier

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evil to the bone. They plant liberals into positions of power, and let that thinking be what most kids hear. Like a pyramid, where it all flows down. What better place to indoctrinate than in education?
Back to this again. :rolleyes:
Formal education teaches critical thinking. It's the exact opposite of indoctrination. It's how we protect ourselves from indoctrination. That's why conservatives attack it. They want a dumb, uneducated populace that is easy to manipulate. You don't trust school because educated, empowered people take away your own control.
What better place to indoctrinate? How about church? Organized religion. Just stop thinking for yourself and "give it all to God." Or else you'll be shunned.
 
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Mac9192

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Back to this again. :rolleyes:
Formal education teaches critical thinking. It's the exact opposite of indoctrination. It's how we protect ourselves from indoctrination. That's why conservatives attack it. They want a dumb, uneducated populace that is easy to manipulate. You don't trust school because educated, empowered people take away your own control.
What better place to indoctrinate? How about church? Organized religion. Just stop thinking for yourself and "give it all to God." Or else you'll be shunned.
Says the education lifer.
 

Mac9192

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Trump is the current president. Republicans currently control Congress, and the Supreme Court. They are responsible for everything that’s going on: the terrible economy, rising inflation, the cost of living, and all the wars Trump has started, as well as the ones he will start in the near future. They own it, and so do you. You voted for him, after all. It’s not like any of this is out of character for him, surprising, or the least bit unexpected. You knew what he was, and you voted for him anyway. You fell for it. He got you. So own it. We all make mistakes. Don’t clutch your pearls now and pretend otherwise.
Pure laughable. Reading definitely isn’t your friend. If so, you’d have seen that we have been critical of Trump some. Which any is more than you guys showed from 21-25. Oh wait, you weren’t around those years. Maybe you were in college, or the basement.

You also haven’t said anything about my point on how old you are. It’s because I’ve pegged you isn’t it?

You are nothing, and I mean nothing, but a puppet to the left wing media. You have no thoughts on your own. They’re merely what you want to see.
 

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Pure laughable. Reading definitely isn’t your friend. If so, you’d have seen that we have been critical of Trump some. Which any is more than you guys showed from 21-25. Oh wait, you weren’t around those years. Maybe you were in college, or the basement.

You also haven’t said anything about my point on how old you are. It’s because I’ve pegged you isn’t it?

You are nothing, and I mean nothing, but a puppet to the left wing media. You have no thoughts on your own. They’re merely what you want to see.
Every time I strike a nerve, you immediately retreat to your safe space of identity politics. You don’t have the ability to win arguments through debate, so you default to the tried and true: attacks regarding age, gender, religion, or whatever else makes you feel superior that day.

You’ve shown once again that you’re not capable of discussion because you generally don’t have a clue what you’re talking about beyond the talking points you’ve picked up from Fox News or whatever right wing outlet you tune in to. So instead, like always, you default to identity politics because it’s the only thing you truly grasp.

As I’ve said before, you know nothing about me, and you never will. You’ll have to find a different line of attack. Also, my comment wasn’t directed at anyone other than you, so I don’t know why you’re saying “we” in your post. Every other regular poster in here is at least capable of discussion and debate, with the exception of you.

And that’s pretty sad for a 53 year old. Some might even call that “toxic” behavior. You’re going to have to step up your game, Mac.
 

Mac9192

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You’ve shown once again that you’re not capable of discussion because you generally don’t have a clue what you’re talking about beyond the talking points you’ve picked up from Fox News or whatever right wing outlet you tune in to. So instead, like always, you default to identity politics because it’s the only thing you truly grasp.
Your whole post is rich, but this part is dripping. I used to watch a lot of Fox News. Key word is used to. Also because of AI, who knows what’s real or not anymore.

You hear others, but don’t listen. You’ve been conditioned to be that way though, and your childish posts, memes… are evident of that.

The conservatives here not being in love with Trump are not enough. Though small, we have taken issue with him. You guys? Not a chance. You and your alter ego Datt have no desire to find middle ground.
 
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KDSTONE

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Back to this again. :rolleyes:
Formal education teaches critical thinking. It's the exact opposite of indoctrination. It's how we protect ourselves from indoctrination. That's why conservatives attack it. They want a dumb, uneducated populace that is easy to manipulate. You don't trust school because educated, empowered people take away your own control.
What better place to indoctrinate? How about church? Organized religion. Just stop thinking for yourself and "give it all to God." Or else you'll be shunned.
“Formal education teaches critical thinking skills”. Ideally, yes. In reality, most employers and college students themselves are not so sure.

From the research I’ve come across, most professors can’t even adequately define ‘critical thinking skills’, let alone explain how it’s being taught in their classrooms. Reading textbook passages and studying lecture notes for periodic tests does little to develop critical thinking skills. The material is filtered through the ideological prism of the author and the lecturer, nothing more nothing less. The professor has already sifted through the material, separating what he/she has determined to be the wheat from the chaff substantively and also selecting that text that fits neatly into his/ her political/ philosophical framework.

None of this develops a student’s ability to develop a coherent argument or to think critically with the ability to recognize his or her own cognitive biases.


 
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