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The guy was attempting a carjacking. Not selling loose cigarettes or bootleg CDs, not passing a counterfeit $20, not trying to drive away, not playing with a toy gun while being 12, not reaching for his CCP, not moving close to a pot of boiling water.

There's your answer. There's nothing nefarious about it. It's ironic that you would accuse others of vilifying people through politicizing something when you just did it yourself. Every accusation is a confession. Even you are less and less worth engaging with here, KD.
If he were a white guy, you’d be saying that a car is not worth a man’s life and tying yourself in knots about how to paint this entire country as racist and this was just the latest example. Everyone on this board knows it. You left off all the racial hoaxes: Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse.
You also conveniently forgot the Michael Brown fiasco, which started BLM when Obama was Pres. Are you denying that there would have been more coverage of the TX case if the shooter were white? Truth is, you cant call out the double standard because you support it.

Deadly force is generally frowned upon unless the victim of a carjacking has a reasonable belief they are in “imminent danger”.
This theory would be all over liberal tv network justifying the Texas father’s arrest for manslaughter.


I mean… if he were white.

We can all hear it now: another unarmed brown man is slaughtered in the streets of Trump’s America.
 
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Ghost of Dattier

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If he were a white guy, you’d be saying that a car is not worth a man’s life and tying yourself in knots about how to paint this entire country as racist and this was just the latest example. Everyone on this board knows it. You left off all the racial hoaxes: Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse.
You also conveniently forgot the Michael Brown fiasco, which started BLM when Obama was Pres. Are you denying that there would have been more coverage of the TX case if the shooter were white? Truth is, you cant call out the double standard because you support it.

Deadly force is generally frowned upon unless the victim of a carjacking has a reasonable belief they are in “imminent danger”.
This theory would be all over liberal tv network justifying the Texas father’s arrest for manslaughter.

I mean… if he were white.
The Tawana Brawley hoax was in 1987. It'll be 39 years ago this fall. The Duke lacrosse hoax was in 2006, just over 20 years ago. They are absolutely hoaxes as you claim. Michael Brown was killed in 2014 -- 12 years ago. Do you have anything more recent that qualifies? Every example I alluded to in my last post happened from 2014-2026.

A carjacking is a violent crime. Do you have any examples of an active violent crime met with deadly force where the racial dynamic you're identifying played out in the media and Leftist narratives?

I'm giving a completely logical and rational explanation for why this is not the double standard you are claiming. Twice. You've replied with claims about intentions, like you can read minds. There's no reasoning with you when you're like this.
 
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The Tawana Brawley hoax was in 1987. It'll be 39 years ago this fall. The Duke lacrosse hoax was in 2006, just over 20 years ago. They are absolutely hoaxes as you claim. Michael Brown was killed in 2014 -- 12 years ago. Do you have anything more recent that qualifies? Every example I alluded to in my last post happened from 2014-2026.

A carjacking is a violent crime. Do you have any examples of an active violent crime met with deadly force where the racial dynamic you're identifying played out in the media and Leftist narratives?

I'm giving a completely logical and rational explanation for why this is not the double standard you are claiming. Twice. You've replied with claims about intentions, like you can read minds. There's no reasoning with you when you're like this.
Plenty of more available. White men are charged in cases like these when their lives arent in imminent danger. Neither was the father’s in Texas. The illegal was unarmed.

It didn’t make national headlines but this is what happens when these cases end up in the hands of Leftist DA’s.


For those of you in the back, the Court ruled that the law doesn’t allow you to use deadly force merely to protect your property .
 

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The Tawana Brawley hoax was in 1987. It'll be 39 years ago this fall. The Duke lacrosse hoax was in 2006, just over 20 years ago. They are absolutely hoaxes as you claim. Michael Brown was killed in 2014 -- 12 years ago. Do you have anything more recent that qualifies? Every example I alluded to in my last post happened from 2014-2026.

A carjacking is a violent crime. Do you have any examples of an active violent crime met with deadly force where the racial dynamic you're identifying played out in the media and Leftist narratives?

I'm giving a completely logical and rational explanation for why this is not the double standard you are claiming. Twice. You've replied with claims about intentions, like you can read minds. There's no reasoning with you when you're like this.
A “carjacking is a violent crime”. So, since the shooter is Black it’s a nothing to see here folks mentality. What a blind spot you have. White men have been charged several times in recent years with killing Black criminals in defense of home or auto. Prosecutors have gone to great lengths to racialize the cases where a more plausible explanation is that when someone tries to steal your stuff, a level of anger/ fear sets in so that you’re temporarily not thinking clearly.

Exigent circumstances are used to explain why deadly force is not necessary and such force even rises to the level of criminal offense.
We all sympathize with the TX father and I’m not saying charges should be filed. We all recognize the paternal instincts involved. How I reacted in a similar situation would largely depend on whether my family was present.

“I’m giving a completely logical and rational explanation”. Uh maybe maybe not.
While you’re brooding in your safe space, reflect on the fact you don’t get to write and critique it.
You write it; we critique it. Don’t worry. Dirt Duck liked it. He appreciates a good word salad as much as the next guy.

PS I capitalized Black so you wouldn’t have another meltdown. Refusing to engage with someone who uses the term illegal from the side who’s been calling half the country Fascist and/ or Nazi for ten years reveals once again that without double standards the Left would have no standards at all.
 
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If reports are accurate, family members were still in the car...let the guy drive off or protect and save your family members...pretty easy decision, its no longer just property
 

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If reports are accurate, family members were still in the car...let the guy drive off or protect and save your family members...pretty easy decision, its no longer just property
Family members were in the car at the time of the initial contact between the father and the deceased, but not when the father put 10 rounds in the attempted carjacker. In many cases, the burden of proof is shifted to the property owner to prove his life was in imminent danger. Other occupants of the car had fled the scene. No one blames the father for reacting that way in the heat of the moment, but point is home owners have routinely been charged for not proving their lives were in danger at the time of the killing of the intruder/s. Most of the decision making in each case is dependent on the political leanings of the DA, not a focus on consistent application of the law. Texas is a “Stand Your Ground” state so that’s a factor as well.
 

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Family members were in the car at the time of the initial contact between the father and the deceased, but not when the father put 10 rounds in the attempted carjacker. In many cases, the burden of proof is shifted to the property owner to prove his life was in imminent danger. Other occupants of the car had fled the scene. No one blames the father for reacting that way in the heat of the moment, but point is home owners have routinely been charged for not proving their lives were in danger at the time of the killing of the intruder/s. Most of the decision making in each case is dependent on the political leanings of the DA, not a focus on consistent application of the law. Texas is a “Stand Your Ground” state so that’s a factor as well.

To the father's benefit...it was him, two women, and 5 children...that man initially tried to fight with the carjacker, it remains to be known whether the father knew all the occupants were safely out of the car...and to your home invasion, im protecting mine period...inside the home its hard to tell whats what...but I would gather many that were convicted chased the suspect out of the house and the evidence clearly shows the suspect was fleeing
 
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The father fired his gun while the carjacker was literally in the driver’s seat of the car. Ten times. If the children were still in the car he would have known. Hopefully, he wouldn’t have opened fire on a car with his kids still inside.
“The evidence clearly shows” Not necessarily. In some jurisdictions the burden of proof is on the homeowner to show evidence that he was in imminent danger. Leftist DA’s don’t give a rat’s *** about property rights.
Back to the Texas case, the deceased was trying to flee the scene when he was shot. He was just using someone else’s car to do it. It’s not a clear cut case and most of these cases are brought solely based on the political whims of the DA and the area they represent
 

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A “carjacking is a violent crime”. So, since the shooter is Black-
It doesn't have anything to do with the shooter's being Black. If you can't get any further into your response than a sentence and a half without being so bewilderingly wrong, what hope is there for the rest of your post? That second sentence ends with something based on the erroneous condition you established in the first half.

Don't worry. I'll probably miss this pettiness and get sucked back into it eventually. Not today.
 

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The father fired his gun while the carjacker was literally in the driver’s seat of the car. Ten times. If the children were still in the car he would have known. Hopefully, he wouldn’t have opened fire on a car with his kids still inside.
“The evidence clearly shows” Not necessarily. In some jurisdictions the burden of proof is on the homeowner to show evidence that he was in imminent danger. Leftist DA’s don’t give a rat’s *** about property rights.
Back to the Texas case, the deceased was trying to flee the scene when he was shot. He was just using someone else’s car to do it. It’s not a clear cut case and most of these cases are brought solely based on the political whims of the DA and the area they represent

We'll have to disagree until we hear from the father...im leaning there's a chance he didn't know...you are leaning he had to know...there is a chance for either
 

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We'll have to disagree until we hear from the father...im leaning there's a chance he didn't know...you are leaning he had to know...there is a chance for either
“I’m leaning there’s a chance he didn’t know”. So he’s standing outside his car, the guy’s in the driver’s seat and he fires ten rounds into a person here illegally and he doesn’t know if his kids are in the car or not? Is this real?

Meanwhile GoD ( yikes!) (call your shrink immediately buddy) says that the father being Black has nothing to do with it. Riiiight.
Ghost of Dattier= God. Oh I get it now. We all knew he thought he was the White Savior for those downtrodden Black and b(?)rown communities, but GoD? Come on bro.

Can someone explain to this woefully uneducated dude why we’re supposed to capitalize black but not brown? Thanks in advance.
 

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It doesn't have anything to do with the shooter's being Black. If you can't get any further into your response than a sentence and a half without being so bewilderingly wrong, what hope is there for the rest of your post? That second sentence ends with something based on the erroneous condition you established in the first half.

Don't worry. I'll probably miss this pettiness and get sucked back into it eventually. Not today.
But I’m guessing….let me check my watch. Tomorrowish?
 

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We're done here.
And we’re the petty ones. Ok bubbah! This strikes most semi intelligent Americans as someone who knows his argument is about to go sideways and so chooses to pretend that his opponent has said something so batshit crazy that it’s best to exit the scene You’re a coward dude. Simple as that. Faux outrage to avoid the hat that’s about to be handed to you.
Sure, illegal can be a pejorative term used in a certain way, but so can ‘Maga’ etc. When you hear someone say it you get the gist. Let’s stop being obtuse.
 

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“I’m leaning there’s a chance he didn’t know”. So he’s standing outside his car, the guy’s in the driver’s seat and he fires ten rounds into a person here illegally and he doesn’t know if his kids are in the car or not? Is this real?

Meanwhile GoD ( yikes!) (call your shrink immediately buddy) says that the father being Black has nothing to do with it. Riiiight.
Ghost of Dattier= God. Oh I get it now. We all knew he thought he was the White Savior for those downtrodden Black and b(?)rown communities, but GoD? Come on bro.

Can someone explain to this woefully uneducated dude why we’re supposed to capitalize black but not brown? Thanks in advance.
yeah he def got him ten times at close range basically right on top of him, the suspect got all the bullets??...would have been even more tragic if someone else was shot as well
 
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No comments on the Va Supreme Court racial gerrymandering case?
i think they got them on a timing technicality, but bringing it to people and allowing a vote, i feel is the best way unlike what we just witnessed in Tennessee and New Orleans and how its taking off in the south imo
 

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The schedule has been favorable so far to put it mildly but what they did with the Dodgers Starting to believe!
hey, they are playing other major league teams...lol...13 games so far in division and none yet against the last place Mets...that +87 is tops followed by the Yanks at +73 and dodgers at +69
 
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President Trump, Israel, and the Republican Party’s war on Iran continues to cripple the U.S. and world economy with no end in sight. While gas prices dipped through the weekend, I would expect them to set new highs later in the week as oil supplies continue to tighten, as we continue to increase our oil exports to other countries, and as Trump further draws down the strategic oil reserve to hide his **** up. It also appears that the president is now looking to suspend the federal gas tax to temporarily lower fuel prices. This just kicks the can further down the road. A temporary bandaid thats just adds to the national debt.

What he should do is immediately end the war, bring our troops home, and accept the new reality he unfortunately created. At this point, he’s likely going to end up with a worse deal than the JCPOA, Iran emerging as a new world power, and a catastrophic defeat for his party in the midterms. It was a massive strategic blunder to start the war without thoroughly understanding the consequences it would unleash and hopefully voters hold him and his party accountable for it in November. As has been said many times in this thread, the IRGC doesn’t care about the people of Iran. They will wait us out and collapse the world economy. They have nothing to lose and time is ticking for us.

Iran doesn’t even need a real nuclear weapon at this point. The Strait of Hormuz is an economic nuke they’ve now learned how to leverage and if you think they’re going to give that up, you’re a fool.

With such a terrible crisis unfolding, you would expect the president and his team to be laser focused on it, but they’re not. He doesn’t care about the people in this country. He never has. He cares about ballrooms. He cares about monuments. He cares about hosting a UFC fight on the White House lawn for his birthday in the middle of election season. He cares about making himself and his family rich at the expense of the American people. And he won’t stop until he’s bled the people of this country dry.
 
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