The NCAA matrix

[amcdan2000]

Cam is where NCAA lost credibility. Dad took money but Cam didn't know so ok

 

[Dogariffic]

I can go for 35 over 3 and no bowl games for 3 but their offense gets called for 8 holding penalities and the defense 8 interference penalities every game.***

 

[thatsbaseball]

The NCAA lost credibility many years before Cam was born...

 

[blacklistedbully]

Even if we look only at the 6 Level 1's OM is not contesting and no LOIC, if they are level 1 standard, not mitigated or aggravated, then technically each carry a minimum 12.5% reduction on 85 scholarships, at least under the new structure. Even if they use the old structure for some of these, the COI can hammer them as badly as they want, because every Level 1 committed since the new matrix can also go as high as 25% for standard.

If they average out to 6 standard (combination of mitigated, aggravated and standard), the 6 Level 1's alone could technically result in 64 to 127 scholarship losses. Again, that's just not going to happen, particularly if the COI is allowed to group violations, and not sum them all up. It's also been argued the L1's associated with coaches lying, etc will not be held against the university, just the coach, so that could knock it down some...but how much realistically?

How about this. Even if we take out the L1's associated with coaches not there, and assume the punishment goes only to the coaches as suspensions and show causes...if we only go with stuff they accept are "on the school & its boosters", then you're still looking at 4 Level 1's, that can result in as many as 42-85 scholarship losses by the new matrix, again not even counting L2's & 3's.

I just don't get how even the most deluded of their fans (imagine how 17'd up that person would have to be, considering the norm), can see how the COI is going to come anywhere close to their proposed penalties. The COI would have to decide to consider all of the violations as just one...then apply the minimum penalty allowed for a standard Level 1 violation...11 scholarships (85 x 12.5%).Do any of those folks actually think there is any way on God's Green Earth the COI is going to decide to punish them for just one Level 1 Standard violation?

 

[reasonabledawg]

Is it certain they will use the new matrix and not the old? I may be wrong but I thought the COI said after the Louisville(?) case that since violations occurred both before and after the new guidelines they had to follow the old guidelines. We know ole miss has cheated before and after and I guess the charges reflect that. Maybe they bifurcate it. That would make the most sense. I think either way there are enough charges to hammer them under either matrix.

 

[patdog]

Violations prior to about 2012 (the academic fraud) will be either the old or the new penalty standards, whichever is more lenient. Anything after about 2012 will be the new penalty matrix.

 

[StatesboroBlues]

Is it certain they will use the new matrix and not the old? I may be wrong but I thought the COI said after the Louisville(?) case that since violations occurred both before and after the new guidelines they had to follow the old guidelines. We know ole miss has cheated before and after and I guess the charges reflect that. Maybe they bifurcate it. That would make the most sense. I think either way there are enough charges to hammer them under either matrix.

I read the same...but I think their reasoning was that most occurred before the new matrix. I am almost for certain it stated they can use both if they so choose.

 

[MedDawg]

An Alabama guy asked what the difference between what OM has done and the State/Auburn Cam debacle... I'm not a member there so I cant comment to him, but... There are bread crumbs leading to OMs transgressions and actual evidence. The State/Auburn Cam **** was all rumor and innuendo. I'm not going to say it didn't happen... But there is no actual proof.

Cam didn't have a fight with his Dad, then the Auburn head coach didn't slander the Dad in the media causing the Dad start to singing to the NCAA.

 

[MedDawg]

Does the matrix actually say that the penalties are cumulative for EACH violation? I can't find that anywhere. It seems more likely that if they find UMiss guilty of a single Level 1 violation, then they can get, for example, 0 to 4 years of postseason bans, depending on whether there is mitigation or aggravation. Since there are multiple Level 1 violations in this case, along with other aggravating factors, that brings the 2 to 4 year postseason ban into play.

So, they would be facing up to the maximum penalty for each category, but you don't then multiply that by the number of Level 1 violations.

Or maybe I'm wrong, I just couldn't find an explanation anywhere.

I think the new penalty matrix is meant to be cumulative for each Level 1 violation, but the NCAA can't in this case because there are so many. Remember that OM's 15+ Level 1 violations are themselves groupings of individual infractions. I read that OM committed 73 individual infractions in the original NOA, so the amended NOA likely added enough to total over 100 individual infractions.

 

[Shamoan]

Per Wikipedia, the death penalty has only been implemented 5 times in NCAA history, with the earliest being 1952-1953 KY basketball and the most recent MacMurray College tennis from 2005-2007. It will probably be used again sometime in the future. But there's not a chance in this world it will be used in this case. It won't even be considered.

om in same boat as macmurry college....lol.