The missing Ohio State football player has been found dead

thatsbaseball

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of an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound. Very sad. Had been talking to his family about his struggles with concussions. This may not go away very quickly for the Buckeyes.
 

Hammer Down

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He also left a note that said he hoped he did not embarrass his parents. These depression issues in men are real and should be taken seriously in this anti-men liberal world we live in, but unfortunately they are not. They affect all walks of life, and all types of people who do not seem like they should have self-esteem problems.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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That's what I'm thinking. This is not an OSU issue and it isn't a new issue either. The sport of football will probably be very different in 20 years because of the concussion issue. It will be akin to the dead-ball versus live-ball eras in MLB.
 

jethreauxdawg

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How awesome would it be if the Helmet/concussion research MSU is doing leads to dramatic reductions in concussions/brain injuries
 

DerHntr

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How awesome would it be if the Helmet/concussion research MSU is doing leads to dramatic reductions in concussions/brain injuries

For the sake of everyone playing, all the way down to peewee football, I hope they make a hell of a product.
 

patdog

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One thing's for sure. In 20 years things will be different. Players are bigger, faster and stronger than they were even 20 years ago. But brains aren't any different. A sport isn't sustainable if it incapacitates a significant number of its participants.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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When football players are publicly admitting they don't let their kids play football, there's a problem.
 

DerHntr

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When football players are publicly admitting they don't let their kids play football, there's a problem.

I'm not planning to let mine play. I had a major concussion in high school and never regained memory of the week leading up to the hit.

My kids will be built for baseball, tennis, or soccer anyway.
 

thatsbaseball

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You`re right Pat. I just hope Ohio State gave this young man all the attention they could and didn`t let him slide under the radar.
 

jcdawgman18

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It should be noted that this was his first year playing football at Ohio State after spending three years on the wrestling team. This is not the same old narrative of a long-term football player having head trauma problems. This one is different. Whatever that means, we'll just have to wait and see I guess.
 

dannyripms

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We will see a lot more rules for big hits and such. I believe the rules they have set right now is good enough, but we really won't see the results for a few years to see if it had any effects on players health
 

ckDOG

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Write the rules as if the players don't have face masks.

Pretend how the normal person would do their job without that protection and write the rule book to fit that behavior. If that doesn't work, then take away the face masks. Bottom line, the big *** helmet / face mask combo has provided a false sense of security that is doing long term damage that wasn't intended. Players have to shift towards a tackling or running over with their body strategy versus head first projectile strategy that the current head gear facilitates.
 

jethreauxdawg

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I think there will have to be major rule changes in the near future. Stuff that may seem as radical as the forward pass when it was introduced for player safety. Maybe limiting the defense to be within 5-10 yards of the line of scrimmage pre snap. The game will have to change to make big hits less likely, not just penalize people for hard hits.
 

DamnGoodDawg

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They can start by ejecting players who rip other player's facemasks off. I've seen that happen three times just in the SEC this year and two of them were by OM players.
 

512taylor

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What if they removed all those elaborate face masks?
Maybe a player would be less likely to knock the crap ouf of another player of his own face was at risk.
 

patdog

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Joe Paterno suggested this several years ago, before the scandal. He said if you want to eliminate concussions, get rid of face masks. I agreed with him then, and I agree with him now.
 

mstateglfr

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These depression issues in men are real and should be taken seriously in this anti-men liberal world we live in, but unfortunately they are not.

That liberal world you rant about is the very place where it has become acceptable for men to speak about depression while still being 'a man'.

I just don't even know what 'anti-men' means. I am a white male in my early 30s in America- I am part of the most privileged group on the entire planet and in all of history. If this is what it feels like to have an anti-men agenda enforced upon me, Ill happily continue to take it every day of the week compared to all the other gender and ethnic groups. If there is an anti-agenda upon me, what the hell is there against all the other groups?!?
 

mstateglfr

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I'm not planning to let mine play. I had a major concussion in high school and never regained memory of the week leading up to the hit.

My kids will be built for baseball, tennis, or soccer anyway.

Just watch those header drills at soccer practice.
In all seriousness though, I completely agree. My dad, who played D3 football, wouldn't let me play on a football team growing up. It was a total non-starter, I didn't even bring it up really, since I knew the answer. He knew the damage it does to one's body. With how much damage I did to myself just being a dumb kid that I can feel now, I cant imagine having football injuries on top of everything else.
 

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I wasn't going to say anything because it's just never worth it, but you aren't the only one who picked up on how idiotic it was to take the very sad subject matter of this thread and somehow try to make it about those "liberals" we're always hearing about from some of the more, ahem, enlightened** among us.
 

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A good friend of mine is a sales rep on the west coast for a company called Triax (his father started the company). Triax is essentially a computer chip that can attach to a helmet or the head with a head band
And records the G-force associated with concussions. He says their research shows that the repeated small hits of heading a ball in soccer can be just as damaging as big hits with more space between.
 

Shmuley

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Curious. What do they do about concussions in rugby or Australian rules football? Or do they even have an issue since helmets are not used?
 

seshomoru

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Frontline did a show on this...

Even before the League of Denial documentary they aired. The researchers in it found that it wasn't so much the big hit that caused the major concussion. Many people get those in and out of football and are ok. It was the repeated contact, day after day, over many practices that caused the brain to just basically get beat up. Helmets are to prevent skull fracture after all, and they do nothing to slow the force at which your brain basically moves and gets smashed.
 
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