The Harper failed close out

ancienthooper

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It will go down as a tough loss. Drama, drama. Ok, it was a failed close-out but the help comments above are valid. The half-step he took toward Wolf made him late. And they lost on a deep 3 because the immortal Dusty May didn’t get the shot inside he wanted from either of his 7-footers. Rutgers paint protection was excellent.
 

richthedentist

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He had to help on Wolf. He was playing help defense on a better player and they made a deep shot. Was not a failed close out
He did not have to help on Wolf, Wolf was double teamed he was just standing in no mans land and if he was on his man Wolf would have never been able to get the ball to him
 
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richthedentist

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They ran a very nice play that worked getting a great shot, unlike Pike plays (oh he doesn't have plays).
They didn't run any play the guy was standing 30 feet from the basket and it was a desperation pass and a great shot unguarded
 

PSAL_Hoops

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I dont think this moment or loss will be remembered much at all

Correct. The Iowa burn in 2018-19 was way worse. At that point in where the program was every single win we picked up was pivotal towards forwarding our progress (despite us having a similar record and no chance of at large).
 
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seansherm

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He did not have to help on Wolf, Wolf was double teamed he was just standing in no mans land and if he was on his man Wolf would have never been able to get the ball to him
This is kind of my thought, from memory haven't rewatched, but I didn't think Wolf was any threat w the ball at that moment. He wasn't about to turn the corner, seemed off balance even.
 

FAT MOON

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He did not have to help on Wolf, Wolf was double teamed he was just standing in no mans land and if he was on his man Wolf would have never been able to get the ball to him

I mean that's not what happened at all but whatever...

Lathan leaves Vlad to double the ball but doesn't really double and just puts his arms up in the "no foul" stance...Wolf looks like he's about the split the two of them but then he sees Harper who is where he is suppose to be there shutting it down. He kicks it and the moment he does Harper closes out with everything he's got and doesn't get there. Kid hits a dagger.

If you want to be upset with anyone you can argue Lathan could've done a better job but at the end of the day they hit a 1 in 10 type shot.
 

SBP

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He absolutely did NOT have to help, he was out of position and was in no man’s land . Protect their best outside shooter, that was his only task. Drive and kick must ALWAYS be protected. Period.
 

Plum Street

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He absolutely did NOT have to help, he was out of position and was in no man’s land . Protect their best outside shooter, that was his only task. Drive and kick must ALWAYS be protected. Period.
Correct.

Edit - I was wrong !! Sorry we were up 1
Not a legendary take !!
 
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RUskoolie

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Correct.
People here defending Harper is ridiculous …also they were not math majors at Rutgers, obviously
we were up 2 . The only shot that is gonna beat you is a 3 point play ! That I am the first person to mention this in the analysis of the play this far into the thread shows you how little people here know basketball or math
We were up 1 point bud.

You love to create drama with threads, its odd.

No one will really remember because this season has been an abortion.
 

ancienthooper

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Correct.
People here defending Harper is ridiculous …also they were not math majors at Rutgers, obviously
we were up 2 . The only shot that is gonna beat you is a 3 point play ! That I am the first person to mention this in the analysis of the play this far into the thread shows you how little people here know basketball or math
Up 1 math major and basketball savant.
 

seansherm

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Correct.
People here defending Harper is ridiculous …also they were not math majors at Rutgers, obviously
we were up 2 . The only shot that is gonna beat you is a 3 point play ! That I am the first person to mention this in the analysis of the play this far into the thread shows you how little people here know basketball or math
Crediting yourself for being the only one to bring up a non fact and act as if it were real is actually something that happens often nowadays, can't even say it's suprising.
 

Sbailey123

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Correct.
People here defending Harper is ridiculous …also they were not math majors at Rutgers, obviously
we were up 2 . The only shot that is gonna beat you is a 3 point play ! That I am the first person to mention this in the analysis of the play this far into the thread shows you how little people here know basketball or math
We were up 82-81. This Stings, but a drive by Wolf for a layup would have been infuriating. I guess you can live with an nba 3 pointer in this situation.

Hindsight is 20/20 but did Pike change up the defense after burning his last timeout when he saw how Michigan was lining up for the in bounds play?
 

jOmega

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Correct.
People here defending Harper is ridiculous …also they were not math majors at Rutgers, obviously
we were up 2 . The only shot that is gonna beat you is a 3 point play ! That I am the first person to mention this in the analysis of the play this far into the thread shows you how little people here know basketball or math
Apparently you're not a math major either. They were up 1. Legend my ***.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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My initial thought was Harper f'd up....after seeing the replay a few times I am not upset at Harper. Wolf could/would have probably drove to the basket
 
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Sbailey123

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If you think about it, the last couple of seconds in both halves with Long 3 pointers were the difference in the game. Ace’s banked attempt was halfway down before rattling out at end of 1st half and we know how it ended. Tough loss no doubt. We do have ability to wipe the slate clean and make a run in the BIG tournament. This type of end game scenario in the conference tourney would hurt magnitudes more and officially end the season.

As unlikely as it is to get on a roll and win the BIG tourney, this team certainly has the offensive skillset to do so. And as mentioned before there are no true dominant teams in BIG.

Next step, lock up a spot in tourney and decide on the best rotation. Wouldn’t mind seeing jMike instead of jwill at some of these critical junctures. Truth of the matter though, we are going to need EVERYBODY on roster to contribute in a 5 game in 5 day stretch.

One game, one possession at a time. As disappointing as this season has been, if we were given this anomaly of an opportunity to have 2 of the top 3 NBA draft picks and a relatively healthy team heading into March but our only chance at NCAA was to win the conference tourney; we would all take our chances and not throw in the towel just yet.
 
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Mholinko

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He absolutely did NOT have to help, he was out of position and was in no man’s land . Protect their best outside shooter, that was his only task. Drive and kick must ALWAYS be protected. Period.
we were up 1 you live with them making a 30 footer and not losing to a 7 footer making a 1 foot layup
 
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Ru-baby

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Cmon if one had bball sense they would have been worried about Mich getting he ball to one of the big men who may get fouled or have a good shot. Directing the last possession to a 27-28 ft shot is one of the least bad potential end of game scenarios.

Be mad at Jwill dribbling in circles and having the ball stick last few possessions in having the ball solely in Ace or Dylans hands. That was a problem.