The great Trent Johnson...

[MSUCostanza]

is getting his *** whipped by Xavier, 73-50.

 

[MSUCostanza]

is getting his *** whipped by Xavier, 73-50.

 

[MSUCostanza]

is getting his *** whipped by Xavier, 73-50.

 

[Coach34]

Trent Johnson- 1 SEC title....Rick Stansbury- 1 SEC title

Hell, i'm still waiting for Stansbury to equal that so-called dumbass John Brady's 2 SEC titles

 

[eckie1]

Trent Johnson won by default with a senior laden team in a year where the conference was as bad as it had been since said conference split. You are one shameless idiot.

 

[Coach34]

that right there shows you people are like a cult....Johnson took over a team with a losing record the two previous seasons and won the outright title...trying to detract from that is just plain dumb

Stansbury's record against top 25 teams is less than .333...and less than .400 against top 50 teams...trying to make him into something more than he really is just makes you look pathetic

 

[OEMDawg]

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[Chesusdog]

Please. Find something else to be annoying about. The horse is %**%%%$ dead already.

 

[Dawg in a pile]

Johnson took over a team with a losing record the two previous seasons and won the outright title...trying to detract from that is just plain dumb

Just out of curiosity, who did he take over for that left them with two straight losing seasons?

 

[Coach34]

that won 2 SEC titles, went to a Sweet 16, and then later a Final Four...

 

[Dawg in a pile]

that won 2 SEC titles, went to a Sweet 16, and then later a Final Four...

And then, led them to two straight losing seasons and was fired. This is the guy you want to replace Stansbury, the guy that was fired for two straight losing seasons.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

.443 winning percentages don't grow on trees ya know.

 

[klipdawg]

I don't know about "Stains" but finding new ideas with Meo might be fun.

 

[Coach34]

that won 2 SEC titles, went to a Sweet 16, and then later a Final Four...

And then, led them to two straight losing seasons and was fired. This is the guy you want to replace Stansbury, the guy that was fired for two straight losing seasons.

you wont find where I have typed this anywhere on the board...But it would be nice to be great once in awhile, instead of average every season

 

[eckie1]

Which is incredibly stupid. What I said is true, no matter if you believe it or not. Going undefeated on the road in the SEC is never an easy task. Especially when the conference isn't in the gutter like it has been lately. I.e., like when your boy won an SEC title.</p>

How are you even trying to bring in records against top 25 teams here?? That only shows what a senseless son of a ***** you are. Has nothing to do with the argument, but you can't help yourself I guess.</p>

 

[eckie1]

You and cunt34 appear to have equal intelligence.... And by equal, I mean none.

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[MSUCostanza]

is that I didn't mention Rick Stansbury's name. He is completely obsessed with hating that man for some reason.

 

[8dog]

sums it up:

He had a talented team his last year and was 1-6 in conference before leaving. Butch Pierre takes over and finishes 5-5 in conference. That's the coach I'll always think of when I think of Brady.

 

[Johnson85]

you wont find where I have typed this anywhere on the board...But it would be nice to be great once in awhile, instead of average every season

Take talent to the tournament enough times and you will get lucky and have a team get hot. That's how Brady made it to the Final Four and that's how Gottfried made the Elite Eight. Stansbury will get lucky eventually too.

If State hadn't gotten screwed over with Texas, we probably woudln't be having this conversation. Also, while Stansbury has to take some of the blame for the teams that lost to Memphis and Duke being an 8 and 9 seed in the first place, those teams were playing well in the tournament, so it's not like Stansbury causes his teams to play poorly in March. Eventually he will catch a break and things will fall into place.

 

[Coach34]

he was missing starters due to injury for a good portion of that season...Pierre got to coach them when healthy

 

[KurtRambis4]

didn't hurt that he had one first round draft pick (fourth overall) and one 2nd round draft pick (who played an integral part in a nba championship team) on his final four team. if anything contributed to them making the final four, it was those two guys, not john brady. just saying...

 

[MSUCostanza]

Collis Temple assembled that group from Baton Rouge.

 

[8dog]

and Bo Spencer missed a combined 1 game that year and that was a game Spencer missed.

Randolph and Thornton are in the NBA.

 

[Coach34]

So, when Brady had good players- he won like he was supposed to? Thank you Jim Nance

It's always the same shitabout Stansbury:

"If State hadn't gotten screwed over with Texas"
"We had to play a hot Xavier team"
"Butler was really good, they beat Louisville"
"We were tired from the SEC Tourney and had to play in Washington"

Excuse after damn excuse...over and over...

Fact- Stansbury coming into 2010 was 17-44 vs top 25 teams- 27.8% record against really good basketball teams...he simply cant win against good teams
Fact- Stansbury coming into 2010 was 51-82 vs top 50 teams- 38.3% record against pretty good basketball teams
Fact- he has over 200 wins, with only 51 against the top 50- he is good at beating ****** teams

Stansbury simply isnt going to win very often against good teams, and having win two straight to get to a Sweet 16, means he is not very likely to ever get there.

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[Coach34]

How about his PG quitting at semester break? Wasnt that the year that happened?</p>

 

[KurtRambis4]

not making excuses for stansbury. in fact i am in the camp that thinks its time to put up or shutup. however, i'm just pointing out the fact that other than the years that brady had top nba talent were the only years he seemed to do jack.

 

[8dog]

do you realize what you would say if Stans had 2 NBA players on his team and started 1-6? Teams lose players all the time. Hell Stans has lost player after player over the last few years..he just keeps going to the tourney though.

What was the excuse in 07 when he had Temple, Big Baby and Tasmin?

Brady could get talent.

Just couldn't coach for ****.

 

[Hanmudog]

That is all you need to know about the opinion that most in college basketball think of his coaching ability. You did not see anyone beating his door down to hire him after being fired. I am not saying Stansbury is great. I am just saying that Brady is #$@^.

 

[Coach34]

not making excuses for stansbury. in fact i am in the camp that thinks its time to put up or shutup. however, i'm just pointing out the fact that other than the years that brady had top nba talent were the only years he seemed to do jack.

won his SEC title, he had an All-American transfer from Baylor that was coached up by someone else. That player was also an NBA draft pick

 

[MSUCostanza]

did Timmy Bowers improve over the course of his career?

 

[8dog]

the guy is such a great coach that Arkansas State was his best opportunity.

 

[Coach34]

he wont coach at a place any better than Arkansas State either....there is a reason nobody has tried to hire him away in 12 years</p>

 

[patdog]

nm

 

[8dog]

not a very good coach.

 

[MSUCostanza]

the reason no one has hired him away is because he doesn't want to be hired away and has made that perfectly clear. Not to mention that you have no idea who has or hasn't contacted his agent over the years, nor do I. He just isn't the type to let that play out in the media to work us over for a raise, like many other coaches do.

 

[Coach34]

the success he had- 2 SEC titles, a Sweet 16, and a FF...that is success. Period. Consistent- no, Successful- yes</p>

If Stansbury were to make a FF, he would have the job at State as long as he wanted it. Williams is THE example- look at his 2 seasons after the FF- had he not banged pom pom girls- he would STILL be the head coach at State</p>

 

[8dog]

State?

People like long term consistency....not occasional flashes in the pan. That's not just my stance, that's the stance of every school that doesn't care about the stats you keep spouting about Brady and Williams and haven't hired them.

 

[fishwater99]

Johnson85[/b]]

Coach34[/b]]you wont find where I have typed this anywhere on the board...But it would be nice to be great once in awhile, instead of average every season

Take talent to the tournament enough times and you will get lucky and have a team get hot. That's how Brady made it to the Final Four and that's how Gottfried made the Elite Eight. Stansbury will get lucky eventually too.

If State hadn't gotten screwed over with Texas, we probably woudln't be having this conversation. Also, while Stansbury has to take some of the blame for the teams that lost to Memphis and Duke being an 8 and 9 seed in the first place, those teams were playing well in the tournament, so it's not like Stansbury causes his teams to play poorly in March. Eventually he will catch a break and things will fall into place.

Your argument holds no water, Stans can not win two games in the NCAA tourney. It's a fact, and is not going to happen. I hope I am wrong, but he just can't beat two quality teams on one days rest outside the SEC. Stans get's out-coached time after time. That's a fact jack..

 

[MSUCostanza]

If you say no, you are lying.

Also, these coaches that have had the "lightning in a bottle" NCAA success, and gone on to get their big job - some have made it ok, but many haven't. Stan Heath is a great example of that. He parlayed one March run into a plum job at Arkansas and managed to fail miserably.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

Back to back games against decent teams with a short turnaround is somewhat NCAAish. San Diego is middle of the pack Gozaaga Coast Conference team probably going nowhere but they have proven to be decent with some of their wins.WKU is a strong candidate to be the Sun Belt representative in the NCAAs and they have an SEC win already this year. Flying across country and back makes it even a little more challenging. We've beaten some pretty average to below average teams since the Richmond loss. Winning these two would be one of the most impressive things Stansbury has done recently, plus it gives us great momentum heading into Oxford.