The best option offense ever

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Based on what i witnessed this year by Frost and company, that Nebraska with continued talent injections could prove to be unstoppable for many years to come. Furthermore, baring injury, Martinez is a Heisman headliner in 2020


Martinez is special.
 
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MOHUSKER

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The fullback hand off was not always a called play Often it was a judgment call by the QB and the shading of the MLB.

Nope, always a pre-snap call, they had options with a FB fake and then 4 FB gives with different blocking schemes, a dive, two traps and a roll where then the QB and IB would finish out with a fake, TO didn’t like the ball hitting the turf and didn’t like the delay of the mesh/read with the FB, they either blocked it for the FB or blocked it as the option.
 

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I think it depends on the definition. I’m not going to try and argue that Kelly’s teams at Oregon or Frost’s team here. Though I do get the initial point about them evolving from option attacks.

I didn’t really start watching college football until the late 80s so I wouldn’t be able to comment about Switzer’s earlier teams or Bill Yeoman’s best Houston’s teams.

Ultimately I think it’s less about Xs and Os and more about Jimmys & Joe’s. As a result I’d rank the ‘95 team above the ‘97 team b/c you had two RBs that were just out of this world. To have to tackle LP and then to have AG come off the bench. Overwhelming.

Excluding Nebraska the best option offenses I remember watching were the ‘88 ND team with Tony Rice, the Rocket, Ricky Waters (@ flanker,) Rodney Culver (R.I.P.) and Tony Brooks (who happens to be Anthony Barr’s dad) or the ‘90 Colorado team with Hagen, Bienemy and Pritchard.
Show me a good running back, and I'll show you 5-7 hogs paving the way. The backs get all the glory but the lines are where Championships are built, imho.
 

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It may be a different variety, but Nebraska definitely ran the option offense in the 80's and 90's as the primary. We break down the intricacies of each play in decipher why it is different than what anyone else ran or runs now. None of it really matters. If the majority of the population thinks we ran the option then we did. Over 200 million people vs 1.8 million. Perception is reality. A few experts on here on what offense it really was will not change perception. I wish it could.

Did they ever do a 30 for 30 on Tom's offense? That may be a way to change the perception people have.
 
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Martinez is special.
He's a young version of Mahomes. If you don't believe me, just watch video of their pocket presence, side arm throws, running and leadership. Martinez under Frost has the "potential" to develop better.
 

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I understand your reluctance, but why comment? The most important factor for an attack of any position regardless of fortification is the availability of ammunition.

You chose your position. See it through. I'll be nice. I'm just wondering what your aspect is.

Nebraska won 3 national titles in 4 years with an option offense. The epitome of an option offense. What other program in the last 70 years did that? There, that's my ammunition.
 

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You win because of Fryar IMO. The scoring explosion.
Rozier had 2148 yards yards rushing that year as well as Rozier still holds an NCAA Record 250-285 caries at 7.9 YPC. It was all 3. Earth, Wind and Fryar, or The Triplets plus a devastating OL. Fryar his senior year was 6'2 225 and ran a legit electronically timed 4.26 40 in 1983. That 83 offense was Osborne's greatest even over the 95 Offense as one of the NCAA records that squad held and was finally broken in 2008 by Oklahoma was points scored in a season at 624, the 95 squad only managed 590. 83 still holds an NU record that was at one time an NCAA record at 52.6 points per game
 
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MOHUSKER

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It may be a different variety, but Nebraska definitely ran the option offense in the 80's and 90's as the primary. We break down the intricacies of each play in decipher why it is different than what anyone else ran or runs now. None of it really matters. If the majority of the population thinks we ran the option then we did. Over 200 million people vs 1.8 million. Perception is reality. A few experts on here on what offense it really was will not change perception. I wish it could.

Did they ever do a 30 for 30 on Tom's offense? That may be a way to change the perception people have.

Again, it was a component of the offense, in 96 TO used a straight runs (handoff, pitch, draw) about 53% of the time, Options made up 17% and passes were 25%. TO ran a power offense and used the option in place of the bubble screen/quick pass game a lot of other teams use today.
 

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Give me LP over Rozier, Tommie over Turner, ‘95 pipeline over ‘83. When the chips were down Fryer drop the ball and the ‘95 team rolled the Gators.

TO’s offense was power. Play action off of power. And option to keep defenses honest. No mistake about it. It started with power. Iso’s, counter sweeps, dives. Now OU was option. Huskers were power.
 
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redwine65

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I'd take the triplets and the 95 oline.
turner could pass better than tommie
rozier and lp are apples and oranges
fryer 17 years in the nfl
the 2 fullbacks are even
I give the 95 oline an advantage because they average out better per player.

the difference is the defense, 95 huskers had the luxurious luxury of a great defense who put them in great positions all the time. the 83 offense had to fight for everything. you give the 83 offense the 95 defense, and I think they bury miami worse then florida.

the ironic thing is the 84 defense was really good, Im not sure what they did in one year, I know they got munford, but not sure what else. maybe they got confident by not having the 83 offense pounding them?
 
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Rozier had 2148 yards yards rushing that year as well as Rozier still holds an NCAA Record 250-285 caries at 7.9 YPC. It was all 3. Earth, Wind and Fryar, or The Triplets plus a devastating OL. Fryar his senior year was 6'2 225 and ran a legit electronically timed 4.26 40 in 1983. That 83 offense was Osborne's greatest even over the 95 Offense as one of the NCAA records that squad held and was finally broken in 2008 by Oklahoma was points scored in a season at 624, the 95 squad only managed 590. 83 still holds an NU record that was at one time an NCAA record at 52.6 points per game

Incredible, because we were a run-first offense too.
 

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I'd take the triplets and the 95 oline.
turner could pass better than tommie
rozier and lp are apples and oranges
fryer 17 years in the nfl
the 2 fullbacks are even
I give the 95 oline an advantage because they average out better per player.

the difference is the defense, 95 huskers had the luxurious luxury of a great defense who put them in great positions all the time. the 83 offense had to fight for everything. you give the 83 offense the 95 defense, and I think they bury miami worse then florida.

the ironic thing is the 84 defense was really good, Im not sure what they did in one year, I know they got munford, but not sure what else. maybe they got confident by not having the 83 offense pounding them?
The only thing I ever disagreed with Osborne and McBride with was, we junked our man to man that year in favor of Zone as that's what we played in all year because of all of the passing teams that were on our schedule and didn't have the personnel to run it. That D was almost as bad as 2017's.

In 1984 we had all 11 starters return and went back to our normal man to man and finished number 1 in the nation in total defense that year. Had we played man in 83, we would've beaten Miami imho.

What I would've loved to have had that year was that Texas defense as it was equal caliber to our offense, but their offense was just as much as a **** show as our defense was. All year long it was Nebraska and Texas holding the top 2 spots in the polls. Incidentally most have given that 83 Texas D the nod of being the greatest defense in college football history.
 
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