The best option offense ever

[red scowl]

I was thinking about Frosts offense and how it would age, but I concluded it really won't as long as it evolves.

The Air Raid, Oregon offense the RPO offense have resulted because of the triple option. It's about spreading the defense out and making conflicting decisions for defenders.

We've had our teams, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Oregon etc...

Too many for a poll if you think about multiple option offenses. Which one was the best?

 

[WTFMatt]

Nebraska. I won't even get in to the details as to why this post makes no sense.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

I don't think anyone ran the option better than Nebraska. Oklahoma ran the best wishbone

 

[redwine65]

83 huskers

 

[barney44]

I wouldn’t even say that Nebraska ran a true option offense.

 

[Headcard]

Continuing to evolve and be cutting edge is key, it’s what TO do great.

 

[Maui2022]

The answer is in options, not option. And clearly Oklahoma the last 10 years

 

[red scowl]

Nebraska. I won't even get in to the details as to why this post makes no sense.

I understand your reluctance, but why comment? The most important factor for an attack of any position regardless of fortification is the availability of ammunition.

You chose your position. See it through. I'll be nice. I'm just wondering what your aspect is.

 

[red scowl]

The answer is in options, not option. And clearly Oklahoma the last 10 years

Is option just two? Maybe so. No, I used it correctly because you can only run or pass, until someone can fly.

 

[red scowl]

I don't think anyone ran the option better than Nebraska. Oklahoma ran the best wishbone

Isn't that a form of the option offense?

 

[red scowl]

I wouldn’t even say that Nebraska ran a true option offense.

They didn't. It was just a part of the offense, but they usually still had an option. It wasn't like the rpo.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

The wishbone is a triple option offense, I would say 71 OU with jack mildren or 78 OU with Thomas Lott were the best. Jmo

 

[Maui2022]

Is option just two? Maybe so. No, I used it correctly because you can only run or pass, until someone can fly.

Semantical joke, thank you for indulging me

 

[HCHTown]

TO’s offense, to me, was power. Iso’s, Counters, play action off of it. The option was there to augment. Charlie Mac told me we don’t have to run the option to beat you with it.

 

[Redscarlet]

The wishbone is a triple option offense, I would say 71 OU with jack mildren or 78 OU with Thomas Lott were the best. Jmo

No question they were the two best Wishbone offense’s

 

[red scowl]

The wishbone is a triple option offense, I would say 71 OU with jack mildren or 78 OU with Thomas Lott were the best. Jmo

This is why a poll would fail. It relies on my knowledge. I'll look it up , thanks.

 

[red scowl]

TO’s offense, to me, was power. Iso’s, Counters, play action off of it. The option was there to augment. Charlie Mac told me we don’t have to run the option to beat you with it.

I agree completely. We were a power team. Option was like an sweep for the Huskers. It was a call to take advantage of a compacting defense, and the fake to the fullback while the tight end is 30 yards downfield is also an example of a spread offense. I watched wing backs as child. They are much like the duck position. The more **** changes....

Excellence is more than a scheme.

 

[Redscarlet]

This is why a poll would fail. It relies on my knowledge. I'll look it up , thanks.

You don’t need to look it up, I witnessed it.

 

[red scowl]

No question they were the two best Wishbone offense’s

Were they best option offense.?

 

[Huskerwisdom]

The wishbone is a triple option offense, I would say 71 OU with jack mildren or 78 OU with Thomas Lott were the best. Jmo

don't forget Jammin Jamelle Holloway

Like some of the others, I think of us as a power scheme with option and a lot of quickness/finesse blocking as well. Very multiple, but not option a huge percentage of the time, although it was a key part of making the rest of it work

 

[red scowl]

You don’t need to look it up, I witnessed it.

This was my thread and I was saying why a poll would fail. My knowledge is finite, and I couldn't include all teams that were deserving, because I simply didn't know.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

OPTION is where it gets murky and people will be splitting hairs.

RPO is nothing new. All options had the pass as part of it.

Wishbone, I formation, shotgun, pistol...... they technically are all OPTION offenses. Only difference is which formation exposes you or stretches you differently. We were killed many times by the TE in the wishbone by OU.

I think we did more trapping with our linemen to get the angle or advantage.

The key to all of them is blocking and creating the mismatch in numbers someplace.

There is going to be a lot of fun arguments in this thread

 

[BeautifulDayintheNeighborhood]

The best option is the one that works

 

[SoFL Husker]

I was thinking about Frosts offense and how it would age, but I concluded it really won't as long as it evolves.

The Air Raid, Oregon offense the RPO offense have resulted because of the triple option. It's about spreading the defense out and making conflicting decisions for defenders.

We've had our teams, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Oregon etc...

Too many for a poll if you think about multiple option offenses. Which one was the best?

83.

Only real vertical threat (Fryar). Plus the Heisman. Plus Gill.

 

[SoFL Husker]

83.

Only real vertical threat (Fryar). Plus the Heisman. Plus Gill.

Plus Steinkuhler and Remington.

Not a debate.

 

[red scowl]

83.

Only real vertical threat (Fryar). Plus the Heisman. Plus Gill.

Friar was special in a run first offense.

 

[RaisingArizona]

I think it depends on the definition. I’m not going to try and argue that Kelly’s teams at Oregon or Frost’s team here. Though I do get the initial point about them evolving from option attacks.

I didn’t really start watching college football until the late 80s so I wouldn’t be able to comment about Switzer’s earlier teams or Bill Yeoman’s best Houston’s teams.

Ultimately I think it’s less about Xs and Os and more about Jimmys & Joe’s. As a result I’d rank the ‘95 team above the ‘97 team b/c you had two RBs that were just out of this world. To have to tackle LP and then to have AG come off the bench. Overwhelming.

Excluding Nebraska the best option offenses I remember watching were the ‘88 ND team with Tony Rice, the Rocket, Ricky Waters (@ flanker,) Rodney Culver (R.I.P.) and Tony Brooks (who happens to be Anthony Barr’s dad) or the ‘90 Colorado team with Hagen, Bienemy and Pritchard.

 

[resdog851_rivals159165]

I won't get into the weeds about how an offense is run because I don't really know ****. I did once hear Bobby Bowden comment that Tom Osbornes offense was the hardest to gameplan and react to because of how he ran it. He said the Husker offense would run ten different plays from the same exact formation, and you didn't have a clue what it was going to be until the ball was snapped. That sounds like a pretty crazy option offense to me. Sounds like lots of mismatches.

 

[1 nu rugby_rivals]

right red, the more **** changes....like who longs for the old WAC Conference? yet, that is exactly what everyone is trying to do, IMO - all fast offense and no damn D. T.Gill and about 4 OU QB's were the best at running "option" plays, some already mentioned but add J. Holloway to that group maybe - I also remember when my brothers Frosh. team played at Air Force JVs, he wanted me to get him a Dee Dowis #6 jersey.

 

[red scowl]

I won't get into the weeds about how an offense is run because I don't really know ****. I did once hear Bobby Bowden comment that Tom Osbornes offense was the hardest to gameplan and react to because of how he ran it. He said the Husker offense would run ten different plays from the same exact formation, and you didn't have a clue what it was going to be until the ball was snapped. That sounds like a pretty crazy option offense to me. Sounds like lots of mismatches.

That is exactly what Frosts offense is. He can run or pass as he believes what will be most effective in that situation.

 

[MOHUSKER]

I was thinking about Frosts offense and how it would age, but I concluded it really won't as long as it evolves.

The Air Raid, Oregon offense the RPO offense have resulted because of the triple option. It's about spreading the defense out and making conflicting decisions for defenders.

We've had our teams, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Oregon etc...

Too many for a poll if you think about multiple option offenses. Which one was the best?

Osborne rarely used a triple option, the FB give/fake was almost always a pre-snap call.

Tom didn’t create the option offense, often, until he got the elite athletes it sputtered in crucial situations. It was really used more as a play to keep defenses honest and draw defensive attention outside of the tackles, similar to bubble screens in a more “modern” offense. The specific plays and scheme is so overrated by fans, the success of TO’s offense was his preparation of the team and feel for calling plays, not lines in a playbook.

 

[TruHusker]

I agree this could get murky but a "true" option play actually "options" off of someone. Leave a DE unblocked and put him in conflict with taking the QB or RB. The spread does the same thing, if the DE crashes down the LOS the QB pulls is. There are tons of variations after that.

The RPO is a bit different unless you consider running or passing from the same formation based on the D an option. There is technically the option to run or pass but they aren't always optioning off a particular person. I would also add that the blocking is totally different. In the old days of the bone and I option that TO ran, the goal was to get the backside tackle and/or guard coming around the corner with a DB in their sites and getting downfield. With the recent RPO explosion, the blocking can't be downfield in case it is turns into a pass play instead of a run.

 

[red scowl]

Osborne rarely used a triple option, the FB give/fake was almost always a pre-snap call.

Tom didn’t create the option offense, often, until he got the elite athletes it sputtered in crucial situations. It was really used more as a play to keep defenses honest and draw defensive attention outside of the tackles, similar to bubble screens in a more “modern” offense. The specific plays and scheme is so overrated by fans, the success of TO’s offense was his preparation of the team and feel for calling plays, not lines in a playbook.

The fullback hand off was not always a called play Often it was a judgment call by the QB and the shading of the MLB.

 

[red scowl]

I agree this could get murky but a "true" option play actually "options" off of someone. Leave a DE unblocked and put him in conflict with taking the QB or RB. The spread does the same thing, if the DE crashes down the LOS the QB pulls is. There are tons of variations after that.

The PRO is a bit different unless you consider running or passing from the same formation based on the D an option. There is technically the option to run or pass but they aren't always optioning off a particular person. I would also add that the blocking is totally different. In the old days of the bone and I option that TO ran, the goal was to get the backside tackle and/or guard coming around the corner with a DB in their sites and getting downfield. With the recent RPO explosion, the blocking can't be downfield in case it is turns into a pass play instead of a run.

A good approximation of the state of teams offense. I remember when Saban alluded to the hurry up offense as a bad thing, then use it the next

I was thinking about Frosts offense and how it would age, but I concluded it really won't as long as it evolves.

The Air Raid, Oregon offense the RPO offense have resulted because of the triple option. It's about spreading the defense out and making conflicting decisions for defenders.

We've had our teams, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Oregon etc...

Too many for a poll if you think about multiple option offenses. Which one was the best?

Okay, you goofy, nerdy bastards. It was the scoring explosion of 83' because of Fryar. 85' Jamelle Holloway with Keith Jackson is second.

 

[red scowl]

83 huskers

You win because of Fryar IMO. The scoring explosion.

 

[mel mains]

Friar was special in a run first offense.

The Tuck and run was an explosive play, indeed.

 

[red scowl]

OPTION is where it gets murky and people will be splitting hairs.

RPO is nothing new. All options had the pass as part of it.

Wishbone, I formation, shotgun, pistol...... they technically are all OPTION offenses. Only difference is which formation exposes you or stretches you differently. We were killed many times by the TE in the wishbone by OU.

I think we did more trapping with our linemen to get the angle or advantage.

The key to all of them is blocking and creating the mismatch in numbers someplace.

There is going to be a lot of fun arguments in this thread

I agree, as long as people get past the triple option.

 

[red scowl]

Nebraska. I won't even get in to the details as to why this post makes no sense.

Do you vote in Austin?

 

[Maui2022]

Based on what i witnessed this year by Frost and company, Nebraska with continued talent injections could prove to be unstoppable for many years to come. Furthermore, baring injury, Martinez is a Heisman headliner in 2020

 

[red scowl]

I think it depends on the definition. I’m not going to try and argue that Kelly’s teams at Oregon or Frost’s team here. Though I do get the initial point about them evolving from option attacks.

I didn’t really start watching college football until the late 80s so I wouldn’t be able to comment about Switzer’s earlier teams or Bill Yeoman’s best Houston’s teams.

Ultimately I think it’s less about Xs and Os and more about Jimmys & Joe’s. As a result I’d rank the ‘95 team above the ‘97 team b/c you had two RBs that were just out of this world. To have to tackle LP and then to have AG come off the bench. Overwhelming.

Excluding Nebraska the best option offenses I remember watching were the ‘88 ND team with Tony Rice, the Rocket, Ricky Waters (@ flanker,) Rodney Culver (R.I.P.) and Tony Brooks (who happens to be Anthony Barr’s dad) or the ‘90 Colorado team with Hagen, Bienemy and Pritchard.

Excellent ! I never even thought about Notre Dame.