The baker won...

[WVUCOOPER]

Is it OK if I start calling boomer that???? [roll]

LMFAO

Absolutely. Especially since you don't seem to grasp why I'm calling him that. Makes it so, so much better.

 

[atlkvb]

Yeah, insanity maybe?

Sisyphus?

 

[atlkvb]

Absolutely. Especially since you don't seem to grasp why I'm calling him that. Makes it so, so much better.

Sorry...I guess I should have known you and boom dig gettin' it on with each other.

 

[atlkvb]

Do you think he gets it?

Do you get this?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

If, for example, the baker was a KKK member refusing to bake for an African American couple, due to his religious views, would the same protection apply?

Let’s discount the fact you compared someone opposed to gay marriage on religious grounds to the Klan. My answer to the question would be that you’d have to show in a religious context how being black or serving someone who is black would violate your religious beliefs. I’d imagine that would be an uphill battle.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

To me this case can’t be about protecting Christians, or else the precedent is set to allow other bigotry and discrimination. It should simply be about the individual liberty to refuse commission. The lines get blurry when looking at issues of race-gender-religion .....homosexuality, to me, is no different.

Is Christianity not entitled to the same religious protection?

I agree what it should be about but it can’t. If it were, then it is straight up bigotry and discrimination. I’d also agree that homosexuality deserves protection simply due to the historical oppression they’ve faced as a group.

What we really need is a liberal flow chart of oppression protection. When protected minority groups start going after each other, what is the hierarchical Rochambeau?

 

[Boomboom521]

Is Christianity not entitled to the same religious protection?

I agree what it should be about but it can’t. If it were, then it is straight up bigotry and discrimination. I’d also agree that homosexuality deserves protection simply due to the historical oppression they’ve faced as a group.

What we really need is a liberal flow chart of oppression protection. When protected minority groups start going after each other, what is the hierarchical Rochambeau?

Hey dickhead, I said the couple should have walked away as well. Just because Christianity is popular....I dont think it gets any morrbprotection than any other religious or spiritual belief system.

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

Hey dickhead, I said the couple should have walked away as well. Just because Christianity is popular....I dont think it gets any morrbprotection than any other religious or spiritual belief system.

Not sure why you lashed out.

I didn’t say Christianity deserved more or less protection. Identity politics is not a creation of my party. We don’t race to see who can be the most aggrieved. Identity politics is here though, and now we are going to see more and more clashes like this where a minority segment is wronged by another minority segment and they both can’t win. As I said, I don’t know what the answer here is, I’m just saying religious protection, regardless of religion, is deserving of protection. Christianity can’t be pushed into the majority column the way white men have been.

 

[atlkvb]

Not sure why you lashed out.

That's what he does when you point out the fallacies of his arguments.

 

[Boomboom521]

Not sure why you lashed out.

I didn’t say Christianity deserved more or less protection. Identity politics is not a creation of my party. We don’t race to see who can be the most aggrieved. Identity politics is here though, and now we are going to see more and more clashes like this where a minority segment is wronged by another minority segment and they both can’t win. As I said, I don’t know what the answer here is, I’m just saying religious protection, regardless of religion, is deserving of protection. Christianity can’t be pushed into the majority column the way white men have been.

I was playing. I think people should be protected, I think liberty should be protected. I don’t think that protection should be determined by any religious doctrine.

Again - I think anyone should be able to refuse a commission. I think the couple should have respected the bakers beliefs (if the baker handled them with respect), and spent their money on someone else’s work.

I just think we should all be a little more American first. Liberty is for everyone the same - religion, sexuality, unicorns.....America for Americans

 

[atlkvb]

I was playing. I think people should be protected, I think liberty should be protected. I don’t think that protection should be determined by any religious doctrine.

Again - I think anyone should be able to refuse a commission. I think the couple should have respected the bakers beliefs (if the baker handled them with respect), and spent their money on someone else’s work.

I just think we should all be a little more American first. Liberty is for everyone the same - religion, sexuality, unicorns.....America for Americans

First thing you've said that's reasonable in long, long time.