The 1878 Club
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Location will be key. I'm having a hard time imagining any location close to the stadium that will not displace some tailgaters and piss people off.
I don't think they are permanent.
ETA - I could be wrong after reading further. There was nothing saying either way when I skimmed the article.
ETA - I could be wrong after reading further. There was nothing saying either way when I skimmed the article.
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Surely they won't be permanent. Says you can only use them from 9am to midnight on game days. Agree, this has the potential to look like **** depending on location. I'm envisioning tiny house style trailers
Why not just monetize SOME, but not all of the tailgating areas? I'm sure plenty of people would pay a premium to have reserved spots on the dawg walk. Let the inside be a free-for-all, but charge for the outside areas. That seems like a better idea than rolling in Katrina cottages for each season.
I saw another school was using shipping containers or something like that for temporary tailgating setups similar to this. Each one was two parking spaces long or so, and could be brought in on gameday and removed. They looked like boxes but opened up into cool sports bar things. This seems similar.
I think it's a great idea. Just wish I was rich enough to afford one.
I'm guessing it will be a roll-on/roll-off type design like those pod containers. Although moving them several times in a season might make whatever real estate they're put on become a mudhole.
I'm guessing it will be a roll-on/roll-off type design like those pod containers. Although moving them several times in a season might make whatever real estate they're put on become a mudhole.
good info in the link below...read the part about GameDay Traditions
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2015/08/17/In-Depth/Lead.aspx
cost est $5k per game. i would need me plus 49 others to go in together.
they are portable, but i see no reason why they would spend time removing them between games.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2015/08/17/In-Depth/Lead.aspx
cost est $5k per game. i would need me plus 49 others to go in together.
they are portable, but i see no reason why they would spend time removing them between games.
That's just absurd. I could spend a week in St. Lucia getting massages for cheaper than I could spend a few hours watching tv from a modular unit in Starkville.
Seems kind of like less interesting Cockabooses:
http://www.gatortailgating.com/content/tailgating-traditions-south-carolinas-cockaboose
http://www.gatortailgating.com/content/tailgating-traditions-south-carolinas-cockaboose
$5000 per game? Dear Lord.
That's $250 per person per game if you went in with 20 people, which would equate to $1,750 per person for the season (or $3500 per couple per season). For that amount of money, you could just go ahead and get club level seats and have much nicer amenities and more space before the game.
Aside from all that, I think this takes away two of the great things about tailgating which are being outside and walking around and seeing everybody. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to do either if I dumped a bunch of cash into something like this. Not to mention I hate the idea of a FEMA trailer shanty town popping up every Saturday on campus. I'm generally all for enhancing the gameday experience, but I'm sending two thumbs way down to this idea.
That's $250 per person per game if you went in with 20 people, which would equate to $1,750 per person for the season (or $3500 per couple per season). For that amount of money, you could just go ahead and get club level seats and have much nicer amenities and more space before the game.
Aside from all that, I think this takes away two of the great things about tailgating which are being outside and walking around and seeing everybody. I certainly wouldn't be inclined to do either if I dumped a bunch of cash into something like this. Not to mention I hate the idea of a FEMA trailer shanty town popping up every Saturday on campus. I'm generally all for enhancing the gameday experience, but I'm sending two thumbs way down to this idea.
I generally try to stay out of most issues that exceed my pay/giving grade.
However, Traditions?! Someone get these folks a dictionary. We deride the Grove & its flamboyant pseudo tailgating, its higher attendance than VHS, & cold Abner's chicken. Yet, we think this is a good idea? No, I'm not a class warfare, change is bad, old school LFLounger. And no, I'm not up in arms & feeling I'll get pushed out of my setup/parking spot. I get it that we have wealthy alumni that can & want to spend their money & we should gladly take it, but this is just stupid.
I sure wish I could join all the campus fun on game day, but it's too hot/cold to tailgate with the proletariat.
A concierge? This has to be a 17'n joke!
However, Traditions?! Someone get these folks a dictionary. We deride the Grove & its flamboyant pseudo tailgating, its higher attendance than VHS, & cold Abner's chicken. Yet, we think this is a good idea? No, I'm not a class warfare, change is bad, old school LFLounger. And no, I'm not up in arms & feeling I'll get pushed out of my setup/parking spot. I get it that we have wealthy alumni that can & want to spend their money & we should gladly take it, but this is just stupid.
I sure wish I could join all the campus fun on game day, but it's too hot/cold to tailgate with the proletariat.
A concierge? This has to be a 17'n joke!
Great.
Spend 5k with us to leave your free home to come to a much smaller home that cost 5k and fits 8 people.
If I wanted to sit in ac and be at home, Id be at home. I come to tailgate and watch football. This can only be for large companies catering to clients and mostly non fans.
Any real bulldog that cares enough to spend 5k to come to starkville for one weekend, already has premium seating and / or a motorhome.
Spend 5k with us to leave your free home to come to a much smaller home that cost 5k and fits 8 people.
If I wanted to sit in ac and be at home, Id be at home. I come to tailgate and watch football. This can only be for large companies catering to clients and mostly non fans.
Any real bulldog that cares enough to spend 5k to come to starkville for one weekend, already has premium seating and / or a motorhome.
I bet you could kick out the concierge and get some privacy before the game. All of a sudden five grand is almost a bargain ain't it?
I think it's a great idea and to be honest
It's pretty disheartening to see so many against it. Why the hell would it be a bad thing to separate ourselves from other SEC schools with the "experience" of tailgating? Think of it like the Neshoba County Fair. There'd be more culture and personality in a 40 yard stretch of the 1878 club than all of the grove. If you haven't noticed DWS has made a name for itself nationally with the use of cowbells, why not roll that type of hype into the junction? I've often wondered why we don't lease the space of the promenade outside of the scoreboard club as a tailgate left field lounge type of area on a per game basis. Give the lessee a tent, tv, food, and locker for booze and let them tailgate in the game. The 1878 club is a step in that direction. I'd like to see their proposal to see how it all works out. Maybe elegant permanent cotton districtesque type structures, each different from the other, might be the answer. In an area that isn't in as high of a demand like the area between the big white tents and the amphitheater.
Basically what I'm saying is:
1) Why not do it if it doesn't look like ****
2) Why not do it if it adds an element of separation and culture between us and other schools
3) Why not do it if they can find a suitable location that doesn't displace other contributing Bulldog fans
4) Why not do it if it makes money for the athletic department
What am I missing with y'all?
It's pretty disheartening to see so many against it. Why the hell would it be a bad thing to separate ourselves from other SEC schools with the "experience" of tailgating? Think of it like the Neshoba County Fair. There'd be more culture and personality in a 40 yard stretch of the 1878 club than all of the grove. If you haven't noticed DWS has made a name for itself nationally with the use of cowbells, why not roll that type of hype into the junction? I've often wondered why we don't lease the space of the promenade outside of the scoreboard club as a tailgate left field lounge type of area on a per game basis. Give the lessee a tent, tv, food, and locker for booze and let them tailgate in the game. The 1878 club is a step in that direction. I'd like to see their proposal to see how it all works out. Maybe elegant permanent cotton districtesque type structures, each different from the other, might be the answer. In an area that isn't in as high of a demand like the area between the big white tents and the amphitheater.
Basically what I'm saying is:
1) Why not do it if it doesn't look like ****
2) Why not do it if it adds an element of separation and culture between us and other schools
3) Why not do it if they can find a suitable location that doesn't displace other contributing Bulldog fans
4) Why not do it if it makes money for the athletic department
What am I missing with y'all?
What are you missing? Maybe nothing. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. For me, this doesn't add "culture." In fact, it's closer to the opposite. It's portable trailers with some amenities, nice ones I will concede. That lattice work across the bottom doesn't exactly scream class either. I think they'll be nice looking enough not to be an eyesore, but I don't know if I would want them as a centerpiece of the overall tailgating experience. Would I tailgate at one given the opportunity? Sure, but that's unlikely for most of us given the price. (Maybe that's why the new board fundraiser is going on?? Just kidding DS. But seriously, text me if you rent one of these things.)
Location is another big question. The video says it will be steps from the stadium. The area outside the scoreboard club would qualify as you said, but I suspect it's going to be in/around closer to the Junction. I'm curious too on power and water for these things. Where will that come from? Another noisy generator per unit? Surely not. But finding a location without displacing other contributing fans will be interesting. I bet someone is about to get mad.
Overall I probably won't care once they are in, but I will question the sanity of the university if we make them permanent structures anywhere on campus property.
Location is another big question. The video says it will be steps from the stadium. The area outside the scoreboard club would qualify as you said, but I suspect it's going to be in/around closer to the Junction. I'm curious too on power and water for these things. Where will that come from? Another noisy generator per unit? Surely not. But finding a location without displacing other contributing fans will be interesting. I bet someone is about to get mad.
Overall I probably won't care once they are in, but I will question the sanity of the university if we make them permanent structures anywhere on campus property.
Depending on the location, it might be OK. If they roll that crap up right in the thick of some traditional tailgate section, it will suck. I don't hearken to days of old when we had no money or facilities, but I do think that there is some value in being the people's university and I don't think that we have to monetize every blade of grass on campus.
There is no doubt that someone will pay for them if they bring them, but just because wealthy people will displace less wealthy people doesn't mean that they should be offered an opportunity to do so at every turn. I'm not organizing a sit in or anything, but I just think that at some point we should recognize that the average fan is consistently being squeezed out and that probably is not a net good thing.
Hopefully when they roll them in they'll pick the perfect location, they will be well liked and the nation will stand up and take notice that MSU is progressive enough to have portable trailer homes for tailgating. GOD BLESS 'MERICA.
There is no doubt that someone will pay for them if they bring them, but just because wealthy people will displace less wealthy people doesn't mean that they should be offered an opportunity to do so at every turn. I'm not organizing a sit in or anything, but I just think that at some point we should recognize that the average fan is consistently being squeezed out and that probably is not a net good thing.
Hopefully when they roll them in they'll pick the perfect location, they will be well liked and the nation will stand up and take notice that MSU is progressive enough to have portable trailer homes for tailgating. GOD BLESS 'MERICA.
So according to Matt Wyatt yesterday they will be set up on the old intramural fields and they will be set up friday night and taken down on sunday morning.
There are two big problems with this. First, there is no way they get more than 3 people to rent those things unless they are right up against the stadium. Second, there is nowhere right up against the stadium where this won't look like complete ****. If we're trying to cement our place as the trailer park university, this is a huge step forward.
That is some huge info left out of their press release. I can get behind that. However, people aren't going to pay $5k to be at the old intramural fields.
The Cockabooses are privately owned and permanent.
They were really expensive too and somewhat less desirable now that there are so many other condo's and new tailgating area around Williams Brice Stadium.
I just don't think there will be much of a demand for them. Just my opinion. I wonder how much of the money the company gets vs how much the university gets? I just think most people don't want a seclusive environment when tailgating. Even if they are mega rich. Seems like a bad idea all around.
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