That's another one on Cal

bluedog79

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Won't play zone ? You will lose games even when your 38-0. Figured he'd learned something about Zone after 30 years. Nope.
The "best" coach possible would switches defenses depending on the team and how that team does against certain defenses. Fact. I'd tell him that to his face.
 

NavyKat

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The problem I have with Cal is this switch every ball screen crap. It burnt us again in the last minute when Bam got caught. Good coaches continually exploit this and this year it really is burning us because our defense is bad enough when our guys have to gaurd their regular man much less anyone that is a mismatch for them.
All part of his position-less basketball theory. Always love to see Bam guarding 6' guards on the perimeter and Fox down in the post guarding the other teams center. Makes perfect sense.
 

Blueaz

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Wtf?
WHO was hitting on offense and defense?
ANSWER: ****** NO ONE
i love the man and wouldn't want any other coach. However, he is going to play "his" guys come he'll or high water. I will never understand leaving your best chances to win on the bench.
 

4UK

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Cal did not cost the team the game; that's nonsense.

But there is room for criticism. As others have said, the switching every screen has to stop. For someone who professes to not have a style and to coach to the players he has, Cal is incredibly stubborn in this area. You can play that way if you have an Anthony Davis, Willie Cauley-Stein, Nerlens Noel, or even Terrence Jones - big guys who move their feet like guards and can close space even when they get blown by. There is nobody on this team who fits that description - nobody even close, really. Bam is a "step slow" in everything he does.

The other thing is there is no explanation for the lineup we had on the floor on the last possession. We had to have a three, and there was not enough time for a shot, offensive rebound, and another three. So why was Bam on the floor? It's not like they even used him to set a screen. You had to have Mulder on the floor at that point. Is he the savior? Of course not. Would he have made the shot? Who knows. But he has to be on the floor in a 3-point game with 8 seconds left. If he's not on the floor in that situation, then I'm not sure why he's there.
 

Blueaz

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Wtf?
WHO was hitting on offense and defense?
ANSWER: ****** NO ONE
i love the man and wouldn't want any other coach. However, he is going to play "his" guys come he'll or high water. I will never understand leaving your best chances to win on the bench.
 

spotter34

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I don't think Hump should ever see the floor. Practice player only.

Ah come on. Hump will be in the NBA one day, no doubt in my mind. Before he got hurt in preseason they were saying he and Bam would both start. Now I'm not saying he's done anything in particular on the floor to justify what I'm saying but he is capable of being that other guy we need inside. He just needs confidence and experience.
 

Blueaz

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Wtf?
WHO was hitting on offense and defense?
ANSWER: F**kin NO ONE
i love the man and wouldn't want any other coach. However, he is going to play "his" guys come he'll or high water. I will never understand leaving your best chances to win on the bench.
 

ZaytovenCat

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This is on Cal as much as it is the players. His refusal to play Mulder when he is the only one hitting shots is infuriating! He is not a bad defender and wasn't getting beat either. That's just Cal's stupid excuse that you all gobble up. Plus if the other team does something that works then you can bet there will be ZERO adjustments to stop it. Cal makes no in game adjustments. It's a big reason why he's an average game coach at best. Also it's unacceptable that he didn't tell fox to stop shooting those mid range shots after so many misses.

But hey he's projected to get atleast 3-4 guys drafted this year so this season is a success to him. So sick of that crap.
 
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Did you not watch Malik Monk tonight? He had to be a 15 point negative. The kids a frosh and played like one which is fine. It's the coaches job to sit his butt on the bench when he does.
Yeah!!! Bench the guy who scored 47 points 3 days ago!! Who hit our last two buckets!!! Yeah let's bench him!!!

Are you sane?
 

LeonThe Camel

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Disagree. Missed FTs and missed wide-open 3's. And our D was atrocious.
Have to add not going inside enough. We are going to live and die on Monk and Fox shooting the ball. But being young, they need to know how to distribute.
 

MarkPftw

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Go back and watch the Wisconsin loss in 15 and watch this loss..very similar in the defense getting roasted. The UCLA game was what happens to the defense when an even better offensive team gets a hold of a poor defensive game plan and poor in game defensive coaching from Cal.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Cal's UK teams are now 2-6 in their first road games. As long as he is our coach that's not going to change. it's also another reason why he likes playing neutral site games.
UK lost any chance at a #1 seed with this loss. The two best possible wins remaining on the schedule are vs. Kansas and Florida. Even winning both of those wouldn't be enough. Probably end up a #2 or #3 seed.

That's absurd. If UK wins out they will 100% be a 1 seed. If they lose 1 road SEC game I'm 99% sure they are a 1 seed. Very low margin for error though IMO.
 
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Cal's UK teams are now 2-6 in their first road games. As long as he is our coach that's not going to change. it's also another reason why he likes playing neutral site games.
UK lost any chance at a #1 seed with this loss. The two best possible wins remaining on the schedule are vs. Kansas and Florida. Even winning both of those wouldn't be enough. Probably end up a #2 or #3 seed.

Pure nonsense. We will be a 1 seed with just 4 losses . 3 seed??? Did u have money on this game???
 

144catfan

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You must have watched a different game. Box score has Willis with 9 rebounds, tying Bam to lead both teams!
Willis also played 16 more minutes than Gabriel and got only 2 more rebounds and gave up about 12-14 points and choked on a free throw. Senior leadership by the Bullit county bomber
 

GFANBB

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i love the man and wouldn't want any other coach. However, he is going to play "his" guys come he'll or high water. I will never understand leaving your best chances to win on the bench.
I thought the entire team was his guys because he did recruit them all
 

LeonThe Camel

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We just shot badly tonight but eventually you start taking the ball to the rack. We've got to get the ball to Bam more. I really don't understand why Cal won't play Bam and Hump together. I think it would help both of them offensively. Hump didn't even play in the 2nd half.
Because neither is effective beyond 5 feet.
 

spotter34

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Because neither is effective beyond 5 feet.

Well see that's where I think you're wrong. I think both of them are capable of knocking down shots out to 15 feet. That shouldn't be our 1st or 2nd option but I think they're capable oh hitting the mid-range jumper. We're hurting at the 4 spot so I don't know why you don't try Bam there and let Hump play the 5. If it don't work, it don't work but at least you're trying different things to get the result you want.
 

o_Ricky

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I think Cal plays the guys he feels like will be the best in March/April. I'm not saying I always agree with that strategy but he's done it every year here. Teague, the twins, Miller, Skal, etc all had the fanbase calling for their minutes at one point and Cal just kept throwing them out there trying to get them experience and confidence. If he doesn't feel like Mulder will be the best option in the elite 8 with 5 minutes to play, he isn't going to put him in tonight with 5 to play.
 

BoNicholas

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I'm just saying it's frustrating. It feels like every loss of the Cal era is avoidable if he'd switch defense just to throw a wrinkle, sit a guy having an off night, or play the guy who's playing better a given night. It may not work but we don't know because he never does it!
 

tarheelguy124

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I agree, but all of that was a byproduct of ignoring Bam. This was a game built for him and nobody, including Cal, seemed to notice.

Monk is your guy, yes he had a bad game but he can carry you to a championship if he get's hot at tournament time. That is college sports up, down, up, down. Bam reminds me of Patrick Ewing, Fox is a fantastic pure point guard.
 
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Plays his guys eh, every player on the team is his guy.

He should start developing all his guys then. Are Willis, Humphries, Briscoe, Hawkins, Wynyard any consistently any better than the day they stepped on campus? Only returner that is is Mulder and Cal barely plays him.
 
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Ride Monk till the cows come home but it was obviously not his night tonight. Plan B is Bam and we never even considered Plan B.