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TruBluCatFan

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On another note, did you guys know that while in bounding the ball, you can send ANOTHER guy out of bounds and throw HIM the pass and then HE can inbound it? I didn't know that. That's what rule 7-4.6.b says.
Yes. You used to see a lot of that against pressing teams.
 

Ugoff

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On another note, did you guys know that while in bounding the ball, you can send ANOTHER guy out of bounds and throw HIM the pass and then HE can inbound it? I didn't know that. That's what rule 7-4.6.b says.
I've always wondered what would happen if a defender reached out and intercepted the pass.
 

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I've watched basketball for 40 years and have NEVER seen that call. I guess that ref should join Doug Sirmons as not being assigned to any of our games. I really wish something could be done about the absolutely pitiful officiating in SEC games. It's obvious some of them don't even know the damn rules.
 
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I get that rule but I dont think that applies here. The ball was in Ulis' hands so Murray would be the second player to touch it. If that is the correct call, then does that mean Ulis has to pass the ball to someone else before he passes it to Murray? I don't believe this is correct. If it is, what is the difference of someone getting the ball on an inbounds pass and then giving it back to the inbounder as soon as he steps in bounds?!?!?!?

I think they screwed this up. The rule is for if you save the ball and then go out of bounds, you can't be the first person to touch it, basically saving it to yourself. I've seen players go out of bounds and jump in, let both feet land and then grabbing the ball and it be legal.

So the refs got this wrong and if the announcers explained it this way, they are wrong as well. Sorry, they called this incorrectly.

Don't be sorry, I never said they got it right. I think they got it wrong, unless I'm misinterpreting the rule.

Also, I'll say for the fourth or fifth time, the UT player put a forearm into Murray to push him toward out of bounds. You can easily argue that Murray didn't go out of his own volition.
 

TruBluCatFan

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I know it was mentioned earlier in this thread but the first TO call wasnt near as baffling as when the UT player slipped on the wet spot and fell and they awarded UT the ball. It was an obvious walk.

Is there an exception to the rule that allows the offending team to keep possession? Cal didn't seem too upset about it so maybe there is.
 

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I've always wondered what would happen if a defender reached out and intercepted the pass.

I actually saw that happen this year, I can't remember if it was our game or not (don't think it was) but it's actually a technical foul. A guy went to throw it to another teammate on the sideline and the defender instinctively went to grab the ball and they gave him a technical. I thought that part was very odd but it's a rule I guess.
 
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I think most of us know it was a horsesh*t call, but now I'm very curious to see if someone can prove it based on what's printed in the rules.... :pimp:
 

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It was a terrible call, made worse because Briscoe did it a few plays later and the ref didn't call it.

I also had a question about a play where we scored, ut inbounded the ball, the ref stopped play to allow ut to substitute. There was no stoppage, so no sub should have been allowed.
 

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I know it was mentioned earlier in this thread but the first TO call wasnt near as baffling as when the UT player slipped on the wet spot and fell and they awarded UT the ball. It was an obvious walk.

Is there an exception to the rule that allows the offending team to keep possession? Cal didn't seem too upset about it so maybe there is.

I wasn't upset at that. Briscoe fell down then two UT players fell immediately. Clearly a safety issue. If it was just 1 it would have been a travel.
 
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TruBluCatFan

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I wasn't upset at that. Briscoe fell down then two UT players fell immediately. Clearly a safety issue. If it was just 1 it would have been a travel.
I wasn't upset as much as I was confused. ESPN dropped the ball as they never even attempted to explain why it was made.
 

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A player can go out of bounds and come back in to receive a pass as long as he establishes two feet on the floor before receiving the ball. It is no different than throwing the ball off of a player while in-bounding, quickly establishing your position and then receiving the ball that was thrown off of the opposing team's player.

It was a bad call....
 

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It was a terrible call, made worse because Briscoe did it a few plays later and the ref didn't call it.

I also had a question about a play where we scored, ut inbounded the ball, the ref stopped play to allow ut to substitute. There was no stoppage, so no sub should have been allowed.

I wondered the same thing but I saw the ref go over to the scorers table as if something happened with the clock or something and when they stop play for that, I'm pretty sure they allow subs. Again, I'm not sure if that's why they allowed subs but if he was stopping to correct an issue then it counts as stoppage of play I think, though not 100% positive.
 

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Also, to this point, what really irritates me is when the announcers make ABSOLUTELY NO MENTION of odd plays like these we've brought up and then say some of the stupidest things. It's across the board!

I've seen terrible calls and not even a peep from an announcer and then I've seen refs go and talk and the announcers say "the refs are huddling up discussing......." And they're 100% wrong about what they're huddling up for. The other day when briscoe got the technical for slamming the ball, they had NO CLUE what was going on until the refs finally told them.

The first play deserved at least a "what was that call" but they just play right along as if nothing happened and I guess agreed with the call (even though I think we all agree it was the wrong all). ITS TV!! I CAN SEE WHEN A GUY SHOOTS AND HITS A SHOT!!! Tell me things I don't know!!!

It's pretty much Jay Bilas and then everyone else.
 

Ugoff

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A player can go out of bounds and come back in to receive a pass as long as he establishes two feet on the floor before receiving the ball. It is no different than throwing the ball off of a player while in-bounding, quickly establishing your position and then receiving the ball that was thrown off of the opposing team's player.

It was a bad call....
This is what I think too, but it goes beyond just being a bad call and rises to the level of incompetence when you are a paid official and don't know the rules. We've had this call go against us earlier in the season but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and assumed the player didn't establish both feet in bounds before touching the ball. Now I'm not sure.

I can't believe the league office doesn't look at this stuff.