Thank you Michigan?

[Caliknight]

Michigan gets breaks because Michigan has earned breaks over a long, sustained period of time. During that same time, Rutgers has done everything to never get a break, like losing to Umass as a 28 point favorite.

 

[Doctor Worm]

Michigan gets breaks because Michigan has earned breaks over a long, sustained period of time. During that same time, Rutgers has done everything to never get a break, like losing to Umass as a 28 point favorite.

I know what you mean, but the very concept of "earning breaks" is just plain wrong.

 

[Caliknight]

I know what you mean, but the very concept of "earning breaks" is just plain wrong.

RIght or wrong it's the way of the world. We can cry about it or start working to get those same breaks. Those are the two and only two options.

 

[rutgersguy2]

 

[Leonard23]

A Hail Mary - to undo a Hail Mary.

But, seriously, I am more confused now than ever. We know that there were two clocks:

1. The NBC virtual clock that the TV viewers saw - which showed that time had expired.
2. The physical scoreboard clock - which ALSO showed that time had expired.

Was there a third clock visible only to the replay officials?

What?? NBC showed the actual scoreboard clock live on TV during the play. Why do you keep dancing around this?

 

[rutgersguy2]

 

[Doctor Worm]

What?? NBC showed the actual scoreboard clock live on TV during the play. Why do you keep dancing around this?

I know NBC showed the scoreboard clock insert on the replay which McAuley analyzed. My recollection was that during the real time broadcast, NBC only showed its virtual scorebox which includes a virtual clock. I could be wrong on that.

BUT, if I am wrong, that only strengthens my argument...

IF everyone acknowledges that the scoreboard clock was at 0:00,

AND IF the scoreboard clock is supposed to be official,

THEN what clock were the replay officials looking at?

AND WHY does it take precedence over the scoreboard clock?

What am I missing?

 

[noble106]

I know NBC showed the scoreboard clock insert on the replay which McAuley analyzed. My recollection was that during the real time broadcast, NBC only showed its virtual scorebox which includes a virtual clock. I could be wrong on that.

BUT, if I am wrong, that only strengthens my argument...

IF everyone acknowledges that the scoreboard clock was at 0:00,

AND IF the scoreboard clock is supposed to be official,

THEN what clock were the replay officials looking at?

AND WHY does it take precedence over the scoreboard clock?

What am I missing?

You are missing the part where you're supposed to be quiet and follow the script. (sarcasm)

Did we go over NCAA Rule 3-2-4a yet?

Playing time shall be kept with a game clock that may be either a stopwatch operated by the line judge, back judge, field judge or side judge, or a game clock operated by an assistant under the direction of the appropriate judge. The official game clock shall not display tenths of seconds.

If the scoreboard did say 0:00, then there isn't any further argument. Game was over.

 

[rutgersguy2]

I know NBC showed the scoreboard clock insert on the replay which McAuley analyzed. My recollection was that during the real time broadcast, NBC only showed its virtual scorebox which includes a virtual clock. I could be wrong on that.

BUT, if I am wrong, that only strengthens my argument...

IF everyone acknowledges that the scoreboard clock was at 0:00,

AND IF the scoreboard clock is supposed to be official,

THEN what clock were the replay officials looking at?

AND WHY does it take precedence over the scoreboard clock?

What am I missing?

I posted the Mandel explanation above but if that doesn't give the explanation cleanly, this is what they said on their pod.

There aren't two clocks but 2 cameras on the same clock (or clocks in the stadium). The replay officials system has a camera on the clock and NBC (or whatever broadcaster) has a camera on the clock. The 2 cameras (separate feeds) can be slightly out of sync which is what happened in this case. Just because it's 2 separate feeds there can be very slight lags etc and it won't be 100% synced.

So when that happens supposedly the protocol is to go with the tv camera feed that everyone at home sees. But that protocol isn't actually written down as a rule anywhere and the officials either didn't know or follow the protocol. They just went with the feed coming from the camera that's tied to the replay system. I kind of wonder if they even knew there were 2 separate feeds of a clock, they may have just thought the replay feed is the only feed. The NCAA has now come out and said and written it down about what to do in such circumstances.

They said the NFL doesn't put 1 sec back on a clock at end of half or end of game, it has to be at least 2 secs because there's too much of an incremental lag/discrepancy so they think too much error can fit in that lag.

 

[newell138]

Looking at Western Michigan's schedule they could possibly win the rest of their games, will be fun to watch that play out. What a shame those kids got screwed.

 

[Fat Koko]

Big Ten is already ignoring its new rule that bans any professional football player from any professional football league including but not limited to the NFL. Rule says violation equals 6 game ban for head coach.

Michigan fielded a punter from a semi-pro football league in Australia.

Indiana’s punter played five years of pro football in Australia says his bio on IU’s football website. Why hasn’t Cignetti been banned?

 

[rutgersguy2]