Texas Mask Mandate

eckie1

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Jeffreauxdawg

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I will be interested in how seriously people take it. I expect infection rates to start falling in a few weeks.

Here are the details.

Exceptions to the order

Children under the age of 10

Any person with a medical condition or disability that prevents wearing a face covering

Any person consuming food or drink or is seated at a restaurant to eat or drink

Any person that is exercising or engaging in physical activities outdoors or is maintaining safe social distancing from people who are not part of their household

Any person who is driving alone or with passengers who are in the same household as the driver

Any person obtaining a service that requires temporary removal of the covering during security surveillance, screening or need for specific access to the face (like while visiting a bank or obtaining personal care involving the face).

Any person in a pool, lake or similar body of water

Any person who is voting, assisting a voter, serving as a poll watcher or actively administering an election (but wearing a mask is strongly encouraged)

Any person who is actively providing access to religious worship (but wearing a mask is strongly encouraged)

Any person while the person is giving a speech for broadcast or to an audience

Any person who meets the criteria laid out by the Texas Division of Emergency Management regarding minimal cases of COVID-19 and whose county judge has opted out of the face-covering requirement (but wearing a mask is strongly encouraged)


Verbal warning for first offense. $250 each subsequent.
 

8dog

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So just carry a bag of chips wherever you go. But seriously this is a good step. A few well publicized citations will do wonders
 

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I don't understand the voting worker exception. Those workers are subject to being in contact with hundreds of people on an election day.
 

msdawg90

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Does anyone have any knowledge how the "underlying medical condition" works. I've heard that if you fall under this category they are not allowed to ask you what that condition is? Or is there a new policy like a handicap card that you will carry to show your condition? Sounds like many can simply use this as their out unless there is something more concrete to give it validity.
 

Shmuley

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I don't understand the voting worker exception. Those workers are subject to being in contact with hundreds of people on an election day.

Because there will be asshats who argue that the mask wearing requirement amounts to voter suppression, voter intimidation, etc.
 

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Does anyone have any knowledge how the "underlying medical condition" works. I've heard that if you fall under this category they are not allowed to ask you what that condition is? Or is there a new policy like a handicap card that you will carry to show your condition? Sounds like many can simply use this as their out unless there is something more concrete to give it validity.

I’m sure there are going to be lots of people who suddenly have pre-existing conditions that don’t allow them to wear a mask. I do wonder exactly what that would be. Seems to me if you have a condition where you can’t wear a mask, you should definitely not want to get covid.
 

ckDOG

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Throwing a Hail Mary to salvage football season

Too little too late. Better start planning for early 2021. Football isn't happening with Texas, California, and Florida having poor numbers.
 

GloryDawg

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Here's the problems'
1. What type of mask? Is wearing underwear on my head ok? Will a bandana work? The CDC has done studies and has found just covering you face don't work. The mask that work should not be touched while wearing and you should only wear once.
2. Yeah get those Texas counties to enforce it. Texas is a different place.
 

L4Dawg

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I’m sure there are going to be lots of people who suddenly have pre-existing conditions that don’t allow them to wear a mask. I do wonder exactly what that would be. Seems to me if you have a condition where you can’t wear a mask, you should definitely not want to get covid.

There aren't many, and they are extremely uncommon. I saw the real list the other day, but can't find it now.
 

L4Dawg

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Tate needs to do this yesterday. It's getting out of hand here.
 

L4Dawg

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Does anyone have any knowledge how the "underlying medical condition" works. I've heard that if you fall under this category they are not allowed to ask you what that condition is? Or is there a new policy like a handicap card that you will carry to show your condition? Sounds like many can simply use this as their out unless there is something more concrete to give it validity.

They are absolutely allowed to ask. There is no card. You have seen that BS post on Facebook.
 

8dog

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Which is so wierd bc i would argue having them not wear masks will supress far more voters
 

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Here's the problems'
1. What type of mask? Is wearing underwear on my head ok? Will a bandana work? The CDC has done studies and has found just covering you face don't work. The mask that work should not be touched while wearing and you should only wear once.
2. Yeah get those Texas counties to enforce it. Texas is a different place.

I need a link for those "CDC studies that say face coverings don't work" My search only found that the CDC says faberic face coverings reduce the spread....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html
Cloth face coverings are most likely to reduce the spread of COVID-19 when they are widely used by people in public settings.
The cloth face coverings recommended here are not surgical masks or respirators.

CDC recommends that people wear cloth face coverings in public settings when around people outside of their household.
Cloth face coverings are most likely to reduce the spread of COVID-19 when they are widely used by people in public settings.
Simple cloth face coverings can be made at home and may help prevent the spread of COVID-19.

[FONT=&quot]Cloth face coverings should be washed after each use.
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[FONT=&quot]You can include your face covering with your regular laundry.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

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remove face coverings correctly[FONT=&quot] and [/FONT]wash your hands[FONT=&quot] after handling or touching a used face covering.[/FONT]

 
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You’re correct. The CDC does not typically do these types of studies, it would be NIH or NIH funded if from the govt.

If someone follows the link you provided, clicks on about cloth face coverings, about halfway down there is a link to the recent studies CDC is referencing to set their current policy for face masks.
 

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Something needs to happen soon. It needs to burn through the population, or people start wearing masks and distance. I’m borderline closing down. Another shut down and I’m done.
 

Jeffreauxdawg

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Something needs to happen soon. It needs to burn through the population, or people start wearing masks and distance. I’m borderline closing down. Another shut down and I’m done.

This is a really sad truth. While lockdowns are the worst scenario, they are not the only damage to the economy. The fear of the virus alone has and will keep many people at home. The best thing would be to have everyone wear masks and get tested weekly.... Obviously not feasible, but it's the only way I know to calm the fear.
 

dog12

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They are absolutely allowed to ask. There is no card. You have seen that BS post on Facebook.


I live in Virginia, and we have an Executive Order in effect that is very similar to the one in Texas.

The Virginia order explicitly says, "Any person who declines to wear a face covering because of a medical condition shall not be required to produce or carry medical documentation verifying the stated condition nor shall the person be required to identify the precise underlying medical condition."

I'm no expert, but it would be my guess that a person in Texas having such a medical condition could legitimately refuse to divulge any info beyond the fact that he/she does have a medical condition that prevents him/her from wearing a mask.

An individual's medical info is fairly well-protected under the law (e.g., HIPAA).
 

dog12

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Bandaids don't fix bullet holes, but they can help slow bleeding.
Masks don't 100% stop transmission of covid, but they can help slow the spread.

It would be absurd to suggest that something should only be used if it fully fixes the problem.


Would wearing a full hazmat suit help to slow the spread even more than wearing a mask? If so, then why don't we require full hazmat suits?

My point is this: which safety precautions are reasonable? That's what the debate is about.

In my opinion, requiring people to wear a mask is unreasonable.

Clearly, based upon all the bitching and moaning by mask-wearers, lots of people agree with me and choose not to wear a mask.
 

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Would wearing a full hazmat suit help to slow the spread even more than wearing a mask? If so, then why don't we require full hazmat suits?

My point is this: which safety precautions are reasonable? That's what the debate is about.

In my opinion, requiring people to wear a mask is unreasonable.

Clearly, based upon all the bitching and moaning by mask-wearers, lots of people agree with me and choose not to wear a mask.

I'm not sure where the line is between what is and isn't reasonable.

I responded to that picture because the message is stupid. Its absurd to take the position that unless something can work 100%, it isnt worth doing.

As for masks, I dont like wearing one, but do when its advisable and it just isnt difficult to do it. I went with my oldest kid to buy shoes yesterday and we spent 45min in a small running shop getting her set up with good shoes. We had to wear masks because the store requires it. It was quite simple and successful. I cant imagine how anyone could go thru that event and declare it to be unreasonable.

School kids will wear masks. School kids. School kids are able to do it, but its unreasonable for an adult? Come on.
 
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The City of Starkville will most likely adopt a mask mandate at the Board of Aldermen meeting on Tuesday. MSU has already issued a mask mandate for all on-campus buildings, and that is going to continue when fall classes start back.
 

patdog

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I think the line is, don't go into situations where you're going to be within 6 feet of anyone for any length of time (a few minutes). If you have to, wear a mask.
 

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The City of Starkville will most likely adopt a mask mandate at the Board of Aldermen meeting on Tuesday. MSU has already issued a mask mandate for all on-campus buildings, and that is going to continue when fall classes start back.

Starkville mayor and alderman aren’t qualified to run a Dollar General...
 

ckDOG

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Pat, you're a reasonable guy

I think the line is, don't go into situations where you're going to be within 6 feet of anyone for any length of time (a few minutes). If you have to, wear a mask.

What you stated is practical and easy to execute. Why are so many folks emotional about it and resistant to using that logic? It really is mind blowing.
 

mstateglfr

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I think the line is, don't go into situations where you're going to be within 6 feet of anyone for any length of time (a few minutes). If you have to, wear a mask.

Well yeah, I would say this is quite reasonable.
Dog12 appears to think that even wearing a mask at all is unreasonable.
And ibleedmaroon seems to equate wearing a mask with something that doesn't fully fix an issue and therefore it shouldnt be done.
 

L4Dawg

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I live in Virginia, and we have an Executive Order in effect that is very similar to the one in Texas.

The Virginia order explicitly says, "Any person who declines to wear a face covering because of a medical condition shall not be required to produce or carry medical documentation verifying the stated condition nor shall the person be required to identify the precise underlying medical condition."

I'm no expert, but it would be my guess that a person in Texas having such a medical condition could legitimately refuse to divulge any info beyond the fact that he/she does have a medical condition that prevents him/her from wearing a mask.

An individual's medical info is fairly well-protected under the law (e.g., HIPAA).

The thing is there really isn't any medical condition that would prevent you from wearing a mask. There really isn't. There are a few that have advocates that claim that status, but oxymeters don't lie.
 

L4Dawg

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Would wearing a full hazmat suit help to slow the spread even more than wearing a mask? If so, then why don't we require full hazmat suits?

My point is this: which safety precautions are reasonable? That's what the debate is about.

In my opinion, requiring people to wear a mask is unreasonable.

Clearly, based upon all the bitching and moaning by mask-wearers, lots of people agree with me and choose not to wear a mask.
So you are equating a 50 cent mask with a full hazmat suite? That's just stupid, plain out old dumbass stupid.