Tent camping essentials

johnson86-1

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Exactly how I've always felt about camping. It sounds great... for other people.
Yup. I want to do it. Or more accurately, I want to want to do it.

And I would enjoy a weekend here or there. But I don't think I'll enjoy it enough to make it worth it, both because I can't justify buying what I would need and just because I won't do it enough to get past the learning curve where I can get packed and out of the hosue in a reasonable time while also not forgetting something I need for it to be enjoyable. But this thread has me thinking I may try to rent a cabin at a state park for a weekend soon.
 

Shmuley

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Add for this time of year:

permethrin (applied to clothing, allowed to dry)
insect repellant
fresh batteries for headlamps

Also, beware of a hammock for any nighttime temps under 70 degrees. Even in the hottest of 17n miserably hot Mississippi suck *** summers, about 3:00 a.m. when your *** is suspended there essentially naked lying in that bear spring roll, you are going to hate life. Trust my formerly miserable *** on this. You will need something between you and the hammock that provides wind and temp protection.
 

Shmuley

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Bug nets for hammocks are a thing. Eno has them. I rock a warbonnet which incorporates the bug net.
 

Bulldog Bruce

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yeah like bringing that dorm room fridge that's in the attic from when your kids went to MSU.
 

woozman

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If it's just one weekend, then maybe so. Camping is a lifestyle, you have to go multiple times each year to get your money's worth.
Trust me, Rafting is more expensive to get into.
If you enjoy the outdoors, nothing is better than to spend time with your children in the great outdoors.
You can not put a price on the life experiences they will have.

Oh, I agree. I’ve amassed a lot of camping and canoeing gear over the years and love taking the kids to the outdoors. I’m actually taking my son catfishing tonight - luckily I have unlimited access to a houseboat upriver for these mid-week trips (we have to meet my wife at the launch at 7:15 in the morning for the ride to school)...
 

Dawg1979

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Where do y ou camp where you don't get eaten up by bugs sleeping outside of a tent?


we go up in the mountains of Tenn and Colorado a good bit. get high enough up, bugs aren't bad. even without the bug net, you can wrap yourself in the double nest and they don't bother me.
 

Dawg1979

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? what tents have you used in the past? Ive been thru at least a couple dozen nights of rain inside a tent and havent gotten wet. Everything from a pretty basic 4 person Eureka with only a partial rain fly to a nicer ALPS 2 person with full rail fly to a great REI quarter dome.

Are you getting wet because seams arent sealed or because you put your tent at the bottom of a hill and its pooling from underneath?

i think most of my tents have been cheap. haha but i avoid them as i've gotten older. i just like the comfort that the hammock gives me.
 

hdogg

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Hammocks : overrated. A very very small percent of the population has converted to them and they all think it's be best thing ever. But they are a pain to set up, you have to search for the perfect spaced trees, and they will never be as rain-proof as a tent (regardless of the early silly post saying tents always get wet, which is just untrue). I'm convinced that hammock folk (hangers) think they are cool because they are different, which just isn't always the case. You also have to become a knot expert, and would have to set up a hammock for every person instead of just throwing some bags/pads into a tent. It's just awful advice to get a hammock for a family campout (or ever really).

Sleeping bags : Mine is rated for 45 degrees and it's hot during the fall. I've used it to camp in sub-40s temperatures backpacking and it's fine. If it gets colder, I add a fleece or some under-armor. If the low is 60, you probably won't get cold regardless of sleeping bag, but you sure won't get cold with a 40-degree bag. If you get a bag rated for 30-degrees, you will likely never zip it up if you are camping in the fall, unless you live in Montana. It's going to be more bulky and more expensive and not necessary.

Pro tip : If you do get cold, put up the rainfly. It really does keep in the body-heat, can make a 10-degree difference usually.
 

Dawg1979

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Add for this time of year:

permethrin (applied to clothing, allowed to dry)
insect repellant
fresh batteries for headlamps

Also, beware of a hammock for any nighttime temps under 70 degrees. Even in the hottest of 17n miserably hot Mississippi suck *** summers, about 3:00 a.m. when your *** is suspended there essentially naked lying in that bear spring roll, you are going to hate life. Trust my formerly miserable *** on this. You will need something between you and the hammock that provides wind and temp protection.

i like to put a foam pad, under me. that with my sleeping bag, i'm toasty warm
 

Dawg1979

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2 notes on bedding :
Hammocks : overrated. A very very small percent of the population has converted to them and they all think it's be best thing ever. But they are a pain to set up, you have to search for the perfect spaced trees, and they will never be as rain-proof as a tent (regardless of the early silly post saying tents always get wet, which is just untrue). I'm convinced that hammock folk (hangers) think they are cool because they are different, which just isn't always the case. You also have to become a knot expert, and would have to set up a hammock for every person instead of just throwing some bags/pads into a tent. It's just awful advice to get a hammock for a family campout (or ever really).

Sleeping bags : Mine is rated for 45 degrees and it's hot during the fall. I've used it to camp in sub-40s temperatures backpacking and it's fine. If it gets colder, I add a fleece or some under-armor. If the low is 60, you probably won't get cold regardless of sleeping bag, but you sure won't get cold with a 40-degree bag. If you get a bag rated for 30-degrees, you will likely never zip it up if you are camping in the fall, unless you live in Montana. It's going to be more bulky and more expensive and not necessary.

Pro tip : If you do get cold, put up the rainfly. It really does keep in the body-heat, can make a 10-degree difference usually.

well i honestly just like how i sleep better in the hammock. i said i've always had cheaper tents, but i've slept on air mattresses, cots, pads, cushions, etc. The hammock just sleeps better to me. and the good thing about the straps with Eno, the trees don't have to be perfect. get that boy tight, and get in. i've set mine up in 5 minutes in the dark multiple times. now the tarp takes a bit longer, but once you get that down, its easy and fast too. just personal opinion.
 

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Cleaning out my wife's deceased parents house this weekend we found a bottle of old #7 with unbroken tape that was bottled in 1995 .... that means it's aged since 1988 (32 years). Saving it for next years vacation or an SEC championship - whichever comes first.
Also found a bottle of Very Old Barton that was bottled in 1991 ... I broke the tape on that one knowing Barton is an average whiskey at best but after aging even longer than the Jack I was incredibly surprised at how smooth and rich it went down. I know it's only 80 proof but it almost tasted like a fine Cognac ..... So, I can't wait to sip on this 32 year old Jack Daniels
Oh yeah ... match lite charcoal is a great fire starter
 
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billsimmonds

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well i honestly just like how i sleep better in the hammock. i said i've always had cheaper tents, but i've slept on air mattresses, cots, pads, cushions, etc. The hammock just sleeps better to me. and the good thing about the straps with Eno, the trees don't have to be perfect. get that boy tight, and get in. i've set mine up in 5 minutes in the dark multiple times. now the tarp takes a bit longer, but once you get that down, its easy and fast too. just personal opinion.

Actually started making my own hammocks last year to get something lighter. When I'm done the entire hammock, carabiners, and the straps with whoopy slings that I make weigh just over 11oz total. I buy all of the materials from https://ripstopbytheroll.com and it takes me about an hour to make one. It's not really cheaper but they're a lot lighter and more durable than an Eno.

If it starts raining I just get up and hop in the truck camper. Also, if you spend money on a decent tent you won't get wet.
 

RocketDawg

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Having never tried a hammock - are they difficult to get in and out of if you're "older" (guessing from your screename you fit that description), and also, is there danger of flipping out of the thing if you turn over? :)
 

billsimmonds

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Well first off, that truck is extreme overkill for most anyone...even for someone who uses it as much as me. I was planning to build a truck for what I wanted, but in the process of researching, I found this truck for sale with just over 20k miles on it, so I flew out to Denver in January and drove it back. It's custom built by Tactical Application Vehicles LLC in Albuquerque, NM. This truck is one of their stage 3 builds and you can see a list of most of what they put on their stage 3 builds here: https://www.tavllc.com/stages

The truck has dual battery setup with auxiliary power wired to the back of the truck, 37" tires, King adjustable long travel suspension, air locking differentials front and rear, 12k Warn Winch, enough auxiliary lights to see it from space, wider fiberglass quarterpanels because the suspension widens out the truck, C4 front and rear bumpers.....like I said, serious overkill. Added the Vagabond Nomad camper shell / rooftop tent, a Decked drawer system in the back for storage, a water tank, a dometic electric cooler, a 270 degree Alu-Cab awning, a set of Maxxtrax, a Yakima skinny rack, kayak mounts and box for fishing gear on top. I probably forgot a few things. I didn't need all of this, but I was able to get this truck for about what I'd have put into building one with less stuff, and I'd have spent six months doing it. We just got back from two weeks in Colorado, Wyoming and Utah....took it over a few mountain passes that we probably couldn't have made in anything stock. I just like to get out there where most people can't go. I love the peace and quiet and finding those beautiful hidden places. In the pics where the tent is popped up we were probably almost 20 miles from anything that could actually be considered a road in Wyoming, and the other one was going over a mountain pass between Telluride and Ouray in colorado. I also carry along a satellite messenger out there just in case....if you're getting out of cell range for extended periods of time it's just a great thing to have in case of an emergency.
 

Shmuley

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Bill, where in Wyoming were you guys?

We’re looking at Snowy Range within the next 60 days or so.
 

billsimmonds

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We drove up through western CO and WY all the way up to the Tetons and Yellowstone. Spent a few days in Yellowstone and then came down the eastern side of ID all the way down to Moab for a few more days before we went back through CO and headed home. Southern WY is maybe my favorite place I’ve ever visited (SW Colorado isn’t too bad either). It’s gorgeous around the snowy range area. If you want to see some beautiful country I highly recommend Medicine Bow and Routt National Forest up there along the Co/wy border.
 

RocketDawg

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Does aging count after it's out of the charred maple barrel, just sitting in a glass bottle?
 

fishwater99

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I’m in Moab right now, heading south to Durango, Silverton and Ouray next.

I agree southern Wyoming is a hidden gem.