Tebow brings the heat vs Stephen A Smith

patdog

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Waiting until you're 29 years old to finally decide to start a baseball career when you haven't played in over a decade isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Taking 2-3 days off each week to work your SEC Network football gig DURING your teams' winter league season isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Good for him that he's able to go out and do what he wants to, but let's not kid anyone here. This is more of a publicity stunt for both him and the Mets than it is a legitimate belief that he'll ever be a pro baseball player.
 

MarkDallas

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Well, sure. But pro sports in general are just a big publicity stunt. A few people play a game in such a way that other people want to watch them. Who's to say that Tebow shouldn't try it if he has the opportunity?
 

whosyourdawgy

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Only Tebow can say basically "**** y'all, I'm living my dream. If you don't like it tough ****!" In a way that is nice and motivating at the same time. Awesome
 

TheStateUofMS

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Obviously you don't like Tebow and you're mind is made up on him. That's fine and I have no problem with that, but to say you know he's doing this for a "publicity stunt" is completely wrong.

Just like Tebow says in the interview, he doesn't care what other people think. Do you think he does? If he cared, then it would be a political stunt. He doesn't care. Therefore it's not a publicity stunt.
 
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TheStateUofMS

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People play pro sports for a publicity stunt? All the players with 10 baby mama's and $20K a month child support are doing it for publicity. Right.
 

Lettucexxxx

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Why are black sports writers so mad at Tebow? Why would anyone be? Seriously, what has Tebow ever done to garnish negative attention? We say we won't old school type players, we say "give me something refreshing" ...here is a guy that doesn't social media, does everything right, and people still bash on him. I'm guessing it's little pecker people but still, let him be. Ain't hurt a god17mn thing.
 
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Waiting until you're 29 years old to finally decide to start a baseball career when you haven't played in over a decade isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Taking 2-3 days off each week to work your SEC Network football gig DURING your teams' winter league season isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Good for him that he's able to go out and do what he wants to, but let's not kid anyone here. This is more of a publicity stunt for both him and the Mets than it is a legitimate belief that he'll ever be a pro baseball player.


Yeah... You're a 29-year-old man, no sense in trying to change your life now.

I agree that there is a big publicity part in this and the chances at his age of actually making it are slim to none, but there is no reason why you should say he should not take the opportunity just because the peak of his athletic age has passed.

I know it would never have happened, but if I had this opportunity at 29 I would have taken it in a heart beat, if for no other reason but to say to myself I did it.
 

patdog

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You fail Reading Comprehension 101. I like Tebow a lot and I have no problem with him trying this. I never said it was a POLITICAL stunt. I said it is a PUBLICITY stunt. And it is.
 

patdog

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If I was even halfway serious about playing baseball, I'd at least show up for work when the rest of my team did. His chances of advancing in baseball are slim enough as it is. But if he's only working at it 4-5 days a week while the rest of his team is working 7 days a week, it's not hard to guess which player isn't going to progress.
 

Lettucexxxx

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I'm most of the time with you but you'll have to take this trip to the corner by yourself.
 

TheStateUofMS

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I have no problem with reading comprehension 101. I just made a typo.

I meant to say publicity. My bad. Should I edit my post?
 

patdog

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He could walk away from that contract at any time. Easily. And they'd let him come back any time he wanted to. I'm sure the SECN pays him a lot better than the Mets do though.
 

patdog

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Actually, they do work a lot of 7-day weeks. The Mississippi Braves have 12 days off in a 5-month season, and 3 of those are the All-Star break.
 

99jc

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So a white Christian gets grief while a black Michael Jordan did the same thing

Actually, they do work a lot of 7-day weeks. The Mississippi Braves have 12 days off in a 5-month season, and 3 of those are the All-Star break.

and Stephen ******* smith would have not even touched that subject.
 

patdog

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Agree about that. Jordan's was just as much a publicity stunt as Tebow's is. Rumors are that Jordan's was a secret suspension from the NBA for gambling. I've got no problem with what Tebow's doing. If the Met's would sign me to the same deal, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I just wouldn't pretend I was giving my all to a baseball career or that it was anything more than a fun diversion for me.
 

maroonmadman

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Given the opportunity there isn't a damn one of us who wouldn't do what Tebow is doing. Keep your cushy SEC Network gig and the steady paycheck AND get a shot at a little pro baseball at the same time. Anyone who says they wouldn't do this is having delusinations. In the words of the immortal Frank Zappa "Who you jiving with that cosmic debris?"
 

Lettucexxxx

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Jordan, if I remember correctly, lost his father and was trying to cope with it. I believe he played in honor of him.
 

MarkDallas

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People play pro sports for a publicity stunt? All the players with 10 baby mama's and $20K a month child support are doing it for publicity. Right.

I wasnt saying people play pro sports for a publicity stunt. I meant that the whole concept of pro sports is to generate enough interest that people will pay to watch the spectacle.
 

Xenomorph

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Jordan was the most famous athlete on the planet. He didn't need added publicity.
 
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muhstate

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He's got more in common with Kim Kardashian than he does Tom Brady. He's a celebrity and he focuses on that... that's his main priority. Not baseball, not being a QB... he likes the attention plain and simple and dabbles in baseball because it brings in a paycheck and keeps his name in the headlines.

 
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Chesusdog

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I dunno. Isn't that kardashian only famous for blowing some famous dude? Tebow at least worked hard to get where he is.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Did you forget these **?

He's got more in common with Kim Kardashian than he does Tom Brady.

He won a Heisman. Multiple NCAA championships. 1st round draft pick. Took over for a very bad NFL team with a 1-4 record, then led them to the playoffs and won a game (has any other team done this?), he was then signed by a MLB team the year after winning the National League, so you can't say they need attention to promote their team.
 

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Waiting until you're 29 years old to finally decide to start a baseball career when you haven't played in over a decade isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Taking 2-3 days off each week to work your SEC Network football gig DURING your teams' winter league season isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Good for him that he's able to go out and do what he wants to, but let's not kid anyone here. This is more of a publicity stunt for both him and the Mets than it is a legitimate belief that he'll ever be a pro baseball player.

Patdog so cool he gonna keep up the Tebow hate till they both in the grave
 

CochiseCowbell

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"little pecker people" Funny.

Let's praise a washed up bench warmer for kneeling during The National Anthem & rail against someone trying to "suck the marrow out of life."

That's not *** backwards thinking at all.
 

muhstate

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He won a Heisman. Multiple NCAA championships. 1st round draft pick. Took over for a very bad NFL team with a 1-4 record, then led them to the playoffs and won a game (has any other team done this?), he was then signed by a MLB team the year after winning the National League, so you can't say they need attention to promote their team.

He was a good college QB but it was ultimately a bust in the NFL. Not because no one gave him a shot (three teams did), not because he was Christian... because he could not consistently throw the ball. Even Chip Kelly couldn't turn his end over end football passes into something serviceable.

The Mets winning the National League doesn't mean they don't want to put more fans in the stands. Baseball is losing ground every year. They want to sell tickets.

If he is not interested in being a celebrity, answer me why this is a part time gig for him? Why since flaming out in the NFL he's been on speakingt ours and hosting SEC Nation programs and then suddenly, at 29 years old, he has always wanted to be a baseball player?

Why he can't seem to find a good Christian girl yet keeps dating models who obviously don't share the same values as him? Why is he writing autobiographies in his 20’s about himself, letting film crews document his lead up to the draft and so on?

Because Tebow is a brand and this is about him.

He’s not 10 years old and I don’t care that he is “putting himself out there”. He currently has a .083 batting average. He’s awful however you want to spin it.

It’s one thing to follow your dreams, it’s another thing to be delusional about your abilities and expect people to pat you on the back and tell you that you’re “brave” for embarrassing yourself while denying more deserving people of their opportunity.
 
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msstate7

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Tebow got hit off ex-om pitcher, Chris Ellis (current minor league brave) in AFL tonight.
 

jethreauxdawg

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That's some strong Tebow hate

Don't worry, he's praying for you.
He was not the worst QB to ever play in the NFL, there are worse on rosters now. Also, the other players in the league said he was one of the 100 best players in the league at the time. I'm sure he is also not the worst guy in the Mets farm system. Will he make it to the big leagues? Maybe not, but it takes some serious blinders to act like the guy has no talent or has not been successful.
 

thekimmer

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It is indeed a publicity stunt....

Waiting until you're 29 years old to finally decide to start a baseball career when you haven't played in over a decade isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Taking 2-3 days off each week to work your SEC Network football gig DURING your teams' winter league season isn't giving everything you have to baseball. Good for him that he's able to go out and do what he wants to, but let's not kid anyone here. This is more of a publicity stunt for both him and the Mets than it is a legitimate belief that he'll ever be a pro baseball player.

He can take off as much time as he wants during the week because it isn't likely to matter. He can have all of the raw talent he wants because it isn't likely to matter. The reason is because he is a 30 year old in and instructional league. Even if he were able to develop his athletic talent into MLB level skill his career would be largely over due to father time. It is not a good optic when he is given privileges that nobody else would be given to take time off like that which is more evidence that the motivation here from the club's perspective is the publicity angle more so than player development. His only hope really would be if he did have elite arm strength so he might be able to get a few years as a situational guy on the hill ala 'the rookie'.
 

muhstate

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Don't worry, he's praying for you.
He was not the worst QB to ever play in the NFL, there are worse on rosters now. Also, the other players in the league said he was one of the 100 best players in the league at the time. I'm sure he is also not the worst guy in the Mets farm system. Will he make it to the big leagues? Maybe not, but it takes some serious blinders to act like the guy has no talent or has not been successful.

I believe he has the talent to play in the NFL and is a great athlete, just not as a QB. And he was successful at the college level but you cannot say he has been successful as a professional athlete, atleast from a performance standpoint.

He's grossly overpaid based on his baseball abilities and would not even be close to being an MLB player if he wasn't a celebrity.
 

patdog

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I think he had the talent to stick around as a backup and have a pretty long career. But what team would want to put up with the circus and distractions of his millions of fans constantly publicly bitching about how he should be starting.

The Mets are paying him $100,000 per year. And yeah, that's about $95,000 more than he's worth based purely on his baseball ability and potential. But it's not hurting anyone (other than that one marginal player with 0.01% chance of ever making it in baseball who's spot he's taking), it's a good story for the public, and the Mets are more than getting their money back in merchandise sales and publicity.
 

jethreauxdawg

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Exactly. The reason he is not on an NFL roster is due to the headache fans/media create, not lack of talent.
 

muhstate

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Exactly. The reason he is not on an NFL roster is due to the headache fans/media create, not lack of talent.

He's ultimately not on a roster because he isn't even serviceable as a backup. Check out his preseason games in New England as reference. Yeah the media circus he created played someone of a role in teams being hesitant to pick him up but he's not some victim. He embraced his identity as a Christian role model and he and his PR team (and yes, he has one) have consistently pushed this image.

He's a part time baseball player and a full time celebrity.
 

jethreauxdawg

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The Broncos started 1-4. They make one change, QB, and then win 6 straight. They make the playoffs, and win one game. Please honestly explain how that happens if the QB they put in is not even serviceable.
 
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