Teams with most Returning Starters

PowerI66_

All-Conference
Oct 11, 2012
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I was there as well. I knew the Sutton family pretty well! I think Danny Sutton was one of the wings. Kid had wheels!
Yes, him and Tom Eanes were the two starters. Jamey Silvera got some significant time as well
 

eagles2k3

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2003
1,922
1,212
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OPRF just dominated the wrestling scene for a couple seasons and then poof....they were gone! IC has now come out of nowhere and has an elite wrestling team that just won the Catholic League Tournament
Yes. They have a strong connection to Izzy Martinez, who although not a coach, is very involved in the development of the IC wrestling program. Nothing, other than maybe CPS basketball, comes close to the recruiting and connections that happen with wrestling. The top programs are always going to be private schools. IC, Marmion, Marist, MC, Joliet Catholic, Montini, Providence. You still have some solid homegrown public schools like Sandburg, Washington, Lincoln Ways, and now Hononegah, but for those schools to compete with the private schools in wrestling is near impossible. Yes St. Charles East won it a few years ago, but that was also built by move-ins of elite D1 wrestlers. They are good this year but not top to bottom like they were the last couple of years.
 

jakob18

Junior
Jan 8, 2009
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Moving is not required within a 30 mile radius at a private. Maybe to play the very next year not sure. No matter what you would have to move to play at another public school.
Yes moving is required within a 30 mile radius. It’s the same damn rules
 

mc140

All-Conference
May 29, 2001
8,810
2,880
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Yes you do have to move. My son went from public to private this past season
No you do not. Just declare financial hardship.

We had a parent one year worried that the local private school would protest that as they offered to cut the kids tuition in half if he stayed šŸ˜„
 

sac'em

Junior
Jul 16, 2012
298
267
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No you do not. Just declare financial hardship.

We had a parent one year worried that the local private school would protest that as they offered to cut the kids tuition in half if he stayed šŸ˜„
It is my understanding the Public to Private transfers are allowed due to moving residences or academic needs. To go from Private to Public would just require a financial hardship statement. I do not think you can justify transferring to a Private school from a Public school because of financial hardship.
 

jakob18

Junior
Jan 8, 2009
206
306
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You may have moved. But moving, or getting a new address, is not required to go from public to private.

No you do not. Just declare financial hardship.

We had a parent one year worried that the local private school would protest that as they offered to cut the kids tuition in half if he stayed šŸ˜„
How do you claim financial hardship when you’re taking on tuition?
 
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jha618

All-Conference
Jan 1, 2018
3,437
4,043
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How do you claim financial hardship when you’re taking on tuition?
That is not what I said. I only made the point that moving is not required to transfer from public to private. I know multiple kids who are at Althoff now who went to SWC schools last year (no. none of them played football)
 
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WIU@78

All-Conference
Dec 27, 2006
8,218
1,066
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I do believe LWE has now attained the ranking of a private school in the eyes of all the posters on this thread. So be it. Please include the situations that arise with the new College rules and emphasis on NIL deals for all recruiting and grandiose promises from programs as well. What you are seeing and will see in the future are attempts to promote your athlete to attain the best ā€œdealā€. Nothing new here just moving down the ranks to maneuver the potential stud athlete to be recruited to a university. It has been an old tradition in AAU, Travel sports and private schools have used. What is new? Now with public schools at the high school level you all want to lose your minds? Let’s be real and be honest it’s and old game that has been seen before as young as 5th graders. Loyalty is for old folks, ask the NBA for the handbook to sports. NIL is here to stay, just not necessarily as it exists today.
 

illinifan82

Freshman
Nov 15, 2021
59
67
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I will speak for myself and no one else, my issue with LWIMG is that for years they have shoveled the BS that they are homegrown. That they do it differently, that they do it right. While the fact is they dont, and they havent. And yes with the way college is, it has a trickle down impact, more teams are recruiting more teams are bending rules. So be it. But the LWIMG faithful will continue to shovel the narrative that they don’t when everybody knows the truth. Its okay to be a Wolf but dont tell everyone your a sheep.
I do believe LWE has now attained the ranking of a private school in the eyes of all the posters on this thread. So be it. Please include the situations that arise with the new College rules and emphasis on NIL deals for all recruiting and grandiose promises from programs as well. What you are seeing and will see in the future are attempts to promote your athlete to attain the best ā€œdealā€. Nothing new here just moving down the ranks to maneuver the potential stud athlete to be recruited to a university. It has been an old tradition in AAU, Travel sports and private schools have used. What is new? Now with public schools at the high school level you all want to lose your minds? Let’s be real and be honest it’s and old game that has been seen before as young as 5th graders. Loyalty is for old folks, ask the NBA for the handbook to sports. NIL is here to stay, just not necessarily as it exists today.
 

jha618

All-Conference
Jan 1, 2018
3,437
4,043
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I do believe LWE has now attained the ranking of a private school in the eyes of all the posters on this thread. So be it. Please include the situations that arise with the new College rules and emphasis on NIL deals for all recruiting and grandiose promises from programs as well. What you are seeing and will see in the future are attempts to promote your athlete to attain the best ā€œdealā€. Nothing new here just moving down the ranks to maneuver the potential stud athlete to be recruited to a university. It has been an old tradition in AAU, Travel sports and private schools have used. What is new? Now with public schools at the high school level you all want to lose your minds? Let’s be real and be honest it’s and old game that has been seen before as young as 5th graders. Loyalty is for old folks, ask the NBA for the handbook to sports. NIL is here to stay, just not necessarily as it exists today.
Not the vibes I get. I don't believe people are losing their minds over lwe new transfer activities. For the most part we all get it. There is just a very small, vocal minority that believes lwe does not and has not recruited players.
 

WIU@78

All-Conference
Dec 27, 2006
8,218
1,066
66
Not the vibes I get. I don't believe people are losing their minds over lwe new transfer activities. For the most part we all get it. There is just a very small, vocal minority that believes lwe does not and has not recruited players.
Just curious as to what South Suburban Public School a 4Star Sophomore studs parent/s would chose to attend to get ā€œexposureā€ for their son? I’ll start with Homewood-Flossmoor. Thoughts? I don’t think there are many out there. Agreed jha618 as well on your take.
 

WIU@78

All-Conference
Dec 27, 2006
8,218
1,066
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I will speak for myself and no one else, my issue with LWIMG is that for years they have shoveled the BS that they are homegrown. That they do it differently, that they do it right. While the fact is they dont, and they havent. And yes with the way college is, it has a trickle down impact, more teams are recruiting more teams are bending rules. So be it. But the LWIMG faithful will continue to shovel the narrative that they don’t when everybody knows the truth. Its okay to be a Wolf but dont tell everyone your a sheep.
Love it that the comparison is made to IMG after 2-3 new arrivals in the last year are a reflection of how 24 years of a schools programs existence from the ground up is developed. Nicely done. You failed to give credit to the LWE QB transfer that led Marist to success this last year?
 

4Afan

All-Conference
Sep 15, 2001
3,979
3,560
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The only pure thing about high school football is the love in the hearts of its fans, and in the players' love for the game.
While I'm a romantic at heart and very nostalgic, what love of the game do the players have if it's all about transferring and the most they can get through NIL?
 
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LWN_Pheonix

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Oct 30, 2023
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I think where I have issues it’s the public boasting of what is clearly going on as ā€œnot trueā€. It’s like watching a late 1980’s pro wrestling angle and actually believing it
 
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illinifan82

Freshman
Nov 15, 2021
59
67
18
Love it that the comparison is made to IMG after 2-3 new arrivals in the last year are a reflection of how 24 years of a schools programs existence from the ground up is developed. Nicely done. You failed to give credit to the LWE QB transfer that led Marist to success this last year?
Confused on the part about the Marist QB, not sure it really helps your point or LWE point at all. The Ritter kid had a great season and committed to Valpo from what I saw. Watched his dad play at StL back in the day.
 
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SiuCubFan8

All-Conference
Jul 27, 2007
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3,638
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While I'm a romantic at heart and very nostalgic, what love of the game do the players have if it's all about transferring and the most they can get through NIL?
It’s the world we are living in, don’t like it but them the facts.
 

WIU@78

All-Conference
Dec 27, 2006
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The Marist ( Ritter Family ) decision is based on playing time going into a Senior year at LWE. You have a family that supported the LWE community for years being loyal only to be caught up in the transfer situation. He was groomed and developed in ā€œhouseā€ and probably gave Loyola all they could handle at Marist.
Here is the problem when situations happen. Libertyville loses a coach. A senior is uncertain of what the future holds. Exposure / practice camps happen. A family does what they feel is best for the athlete going forward in this wild NIL time.
NIL is here to stay. The impacts from transfers at the college level are here to deal with as a result. HS recruiting is hurt because you can wait to see what a transfer in the portal may offer. Fun? Not at all. It is a business more than ever.
I do want to also state that the Ritter family is only mentioned as a situation that is playing out across the state and nation . This family was and is a huge part of LWE success.
 
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PowerI66_

All-Conference
Oct 11, 2012
3,943
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I don't remember the exact quote. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. Something along the lines of Loyola being from 100 zip codes and them being from 2 or something
 
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Rumor has it a transfer is planning on playig football in the fall at one school and then transferring back to his home school after the 2nd semester.

If that does happen I beleive it is time for the IHSA to put a rule in place. Maybe that school has to forfeit all wins? (Though I am sure the courts will not be able to uphold the rule).
 
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jha618

All-Conference
Jan 1, 2018
3,437
4,043
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Rumor has it a transfer is planning on playig football in the fall at one school and then transferring back to his home school after the 2nd semester.

If that does happen I beleive it is time for the IHSA to put a rule in place. Maybe that school has to forfeit all wins? (Though I am sure the courts will not be able to uphold the rule).
The rule is there. There was a football/basketball player in Peoria who tried to do that a year or 2 ago.