TD or fumble?

[thekimmer]

Looked like he was mighty close to having lost control prior to reaching the pylon.

 

[dawgstudent]

TD. That was after he hit the pylon.

 

[drt7891]

That was a touchdown. All the ball has to do is break the plane in his control and the replay showed that.

 

[KurtRambis4]

TD

As DS said, that was after he hit the pylon.

 

[Xenomorph]

Pylon Cam say...

TERCHDOWN

 

[CochiseCowbell]

What I don't get is why this is a TD, while a receiver can catch a pass fully in the end zone with both feet down, & as he falls, usually out of bounds, the ball squirts out is not a TD. Yes, I know the rule about completing the catch, etc. It just seems the two rules are incongruous.

Say this is not in the end zone. Player A is diving for the first down instead. Fumble. Yet, the rule for "completing the catch" remains the same everywhere on the field.

 

[dawgstudent]

Pylon Cam needs to be a fixture in every game. Loved that angle.

 

[OleMissLogo]

What I don't get is why this is a TD, while a receiver can catch a pass fully in the end zone with both feet down, & as he falls, usually out of bounds, the ball squirts out is not a TD. Yes, I know the rule about completing the catch, etc. It just seems the two rules are incongruous.

Say this is not in the end zone. Player A is diving for the first down instead. Fumble. Yet, the rule for "completing the catch" remains the same everywhere on the field.

Because on a run, control of the ball was established before the ball crossed the goal line, meaning it breaking the plane in control of a runner is all that is needed. The rule states that the ball is dead once it breaks the plane in control of a player. It would be a fumble elsewhere because the ball is still live by rule in those scenarios until the player is down. (If that still sounds odd, think about it like this: If the ball was not immediately dead upon breaking the plane, then a player that crosses the goal line standing up would have to take a knee in the end zone to get the TD, and he would still be live to be hit, tackled, stripped, etc.)

On a pass, when the ball crosses the goal line it is not in control of a player, so a player has to establish control, just like he would at any other point on the field, as you said, because the ball is still live until control is established.

 

[tcdog70]

if it was a MSU player it would have been a fumble but a Tider and for sure TD.

 

[CochiseCowbell]

Runner already has possession. Didn't think that one through. Thanks.

 

[tcdog70]

Runner already has possession. Didn't think that one through. Thanks.

as a Ref-rule says before you can fumble you must have possession of the ball. Now you do have a Muff which alot of people confuse with a fumble.