Take PJ situation at Face Value

revcort

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
 

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
Voice of reason,...for now lol
 

Rupp'sRunt

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
Thoughts and prayers to PJ. Unfortunately we saw this situation play out in the opposite direction last year.
 
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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.

There you go getting all rational and sensible. What fun is that?
 

Seth_C

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You may be right, but I have to realistically think it is unlikely he would play Saturday. Possible, but unlikely. Speculating for the second weekend is silly at this point.
 
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I hope you're right but it seems odd to only be in a hard cast until Saturday. Hope I'm wrong though
 

SeussReturns

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Trying to tell a bunch of Kentucky fans and trolls on the internet not to overreact? You are brave sir. Might have a better chance at turning a lion into a vegan.
 
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MdWIldcat55

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
I'm not questioning whether you are really a Kentucky fan, but sometimes you make too much sense to really be one of us. Still, I'll give you the benefit of a doubt.
 

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.

Thank you OP. I'm with you. Not going to read any other speculations. Let's roll tonight and let PJ be hungry for Saturday!
 
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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.

This very well may be true, though I would suspect the hard cast decision was made with an awareness that he is out Saturday.
While you can remove at any point, the recovery hopes from complete immobilization usually involve longer than a two-day span.
 

irishcat1965

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
Because a rational thought like this doesn’t feed the hysterical mob that insists its a vast conspiracy against them and their personal quest for NCAA titles.
 

HagginHall1999

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OP you are exactly right, spot on.

If he is ready Saturday, great, if he isn't then we gotta take care of business without him (assuming we do so today).

This whole thing sounds like turf toe to me which can be nagging but people play through it...I would expect PJ back when he is able.
 

KA4Prez_rivals78700

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Spot on.

That is the exact timeline of events.

Unfortunately, there is zero ability to project how things will go with Cal/UK though.

The one aspect of non-transparency this program has been plagued by over the years is regarding injuries. There are often other factors that are never addressed or said in public.
 

STL_Cat

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I’d bet just about anything he doesn’t play Saturday. I do think we can and will make it past this weekend and have him available for the Sweet 16.
 
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I'm not normally a gloom and doom fan, but I don't know that UK has earned the benefit of the doubt on injuries. They don't have to share information at all, but it always seems that injuries are worse than they let on and/or take longer to heal than they report.

This is what scares me also. I am hopeful that PJ plays on Saturday, but am aware that Cal deals in vagaries to intentionally protect his player and cause our opponents to wonder. It also leaves alive the hope of the fan base.
 

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
I personally think that PJ had some sort of season ending injury. He didn't like what the Dr told him early this week and told coach Cal that he was fine. He then went and saw a second specialist yesterday after coach Cal interviewed, the interview where coach Cal said PJ was fine and would play today, and the the second specialist confirmed the first Dr's diagnosis of a season ending injury. He then told coach Cal after the interview what the injury was but told him not to announce what the injury is because he wants to talk to a lawyer to see how to go about this injury without hurting his draft stock too much. He's probably talking to a lawyer now asking them what all does the NBA need to know about his injury. Once he gets his answers PJ and or UK staff will make an official announcement about his season ending injury or maybe not even make an announcement.
 

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The question begs : Does Cal roll the dice Saturday too and give PJ an additional week to recover? Past precedent with Reid (for the Florida game) suggests he does . Risky to say the least , but I think we can beat Wofford/ SH winner w/o PJ
 

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
 
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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.


Sure hope you're right...we've seen enough damn injuries hold us back...
 
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MWes11

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The question begs : Does Cal roll the dice Saturday too and give PJ an additional week to recover? Past precedent with Reid (for the Florida game) suggests he does . Risky to say the least , but I think we can beat Wofford/ SH winner w/o PJ
I think if PJ says he is ready to go Saturday, you at least dress him, let him warm up, and see how he feels. Maybe don't start him and if the game is going well without him and we are playing well and rolling, you keep him on the bench. If the game is closer and we aren't playing well in the first 10 minutes or so, and he says he can go, then you play him.
 
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That’s probably the correct version of events,

But UK fans are just sick and tired of injuries to key players playing roles in losing in March and are a little pissed about it being a frequent event anymore.
More than not it's been a foot injury. Anyone wonder if the shoes have something to do with it?
 

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As a physician, I agree with this. A lot has been said about the casting and concernt that this would not be short term....sometimes casting is done to keep pressure off the area of concern....such as chronic wounds or in this case a sprain, to be taken off within days of being placed. Is he guaranteed to play Sat? No, but it's not a guarantee that he won't...and he should be back next weekend without a doubt. This makes second round a little more concerning though.
 

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This is just my opinion. I would not try to read into anything that has been said.
Yesterday, Cal said there is no significant damage to PJ's foot and that PJ wants to play. They were sending him to a specialist to be completely sure. I think shortly thereafter they also decided that PJ wasn't going to play in this Abilene Game. Why would you play him if you know he could rest that foot and you will still win without him? He's not needed for this game.

Once it was decided he wasn't going to play, the best way to immobilize that foot and keep anything further from happening is a hard cast. So, that's what they did.

So today, when it is said that he's "out for today's game" I would take that at face value. So, I'm assuming he will return for Saturday's game. And yes, a hard cast can be removed after a short time.

I don't think it is wise to read anything further into any of this.
Hey bro, take your common sense & rationalism else where mmkay. Let em jump!
 
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I think if PJ says he is ready to go Saturday, you at least dress him, let him warm up, and see how he feels. Maybe don't start him and if the game is going well without him and we are playing well and rolling, you keep him on the bench. If the game is closer and we aren't playing well in the first 10 minutes or so, and he says he can go, then you play him.
Reid wanted to play too, Derek Anderson wanted to play too, these coaches ere on the side of caution (unless you are K)..I just do not think he plays this weekend
 
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Once had a hard cast for sprain. I cut it off myself after three days due to severe itching. Upon cutting it off, My foot just didn’t feel right for a few days after; like It was smaller or something. Was weird. Hurt a bit, but no more than it did before the cast was applied; but didn’t feel any better; just weird. This means nothing, just thought I’d share
 

Dr. H Lecter

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I understand the sentiment BUT we are now at 1-and-done. You do not risk losing or take an opponent that "lightly." If we lose and find that they were gambling on getting PJ another day?!?!?! That would turn out to be an AWFUL decision. Dress him, don't start him but have him available if the wheels start falling off.

This decision tells me that things are worse than they are telling us. I hope I am wrong.
 

revcort

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Hoping PJ can make it back by next weekend, but still hate reading stuff like this...

That guy is speculating. He doesn't know the actual extent of this injury.
It's clearly not a serious injury. If it were, we'd ALL know when it happened in that game last Saturday, but we don't know. People have scoured the tape trying to figure it out and couldn't even find when it happened. If it were a season ending sprain, he'd have gone down in that game and wouldn't have returned. This is likely a mild sprained foot. If we were playing Duke or Tennessee tonight, he'd wrap the thing and play. As far as 100% goes, I'd be willing to bet 1/3 or more college basketball players are less than 100% this time of year. But they're gonna play and they will be fine. Get that adrenaline flowing and you play.
 

BassProCat

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I understand the sentiment BUT we are now at 1-and-done. You do not risk losing or take an opponent that "lightly." If we lose and find that they were gambling on getting PJ another day?!?!?! That would turn out to be an AWFUL decision. Dress him, don't start him but have him available if the wheels start falling off.

This decision tells me that things are worse than they are telling us. I hope I am wrong.

We aren’t losing tonite.
 
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You have to think like that to not drive yourself crazy. But fact is nobody flat out knows except the team and Dr's for the team. I would say the same thing if he was only out for one game, or was out for 3 months. I would never let your next opponent plan around it. With that said he did say it's a sprain which is specific enough to believe that it's only a minor injury and he will be able to go either Saturday, or worst case next weekend.
 

MarvinHagler89

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Once had a hard cast for sprain. I cut it off myself after three days due to severe itching. Upon cutting it off, My foot just didn’t feel right for a few days after; like It was smaller or something. Was weird. Hurt a bit, but no more than it did before the cast was applied; but didn’t feel any better; just weird. This means nothing, just thought I’d share
Pointless
 

MNantz

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Well I certainly hope your correct and do think you are, but it’s just we have been bitten by this time and time again , just make a person a bit skeptical you know.
 

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I hope the young man makes a speedy recovery and gets to participate in the NCAA tournament sooner than later with his brothers. As a parent, I can only imagine how this “potentially unknown” situation sucks
 

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If it were something very serious I'd doubt hed be standing on it like he is in the pic that's been circulating. I'm a bit of an optimist by choice so I'm gonna roll with hes day to day and will play Saturday if he can. Remember he played with a broken finger nearly 1/2 the year last season. Toughness isnt an issue for him.
 
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