Successful season

[Ewooc]

Im sure at the start of the year not one of us could have envisioned Neb staring down another 4-8 season. I said at the beginning of the year if this team got anything under 8 wins we have huge problems. Yet here were are, and my statement holds true, we do have huge problems. However, that statement was based on a schedule I assumed would be much much easier. At the start of the year we had the 88th ranked SOS. Then teams like MN, Indiana, and wisc decided to do much better than most expected. Currently we are sitting at 32nd SOS. Last year we started at 40th and ended up 46th. So we actually played a tougher schedule this year than last.
So my question, all things considered what would you consider a successful season. Maybe successful is the wrong word. What would you consider a tolerable end to the season.
* Poll should be 7-6 not 7-5

 

[mgbreeze]

I'm not going to get hung up on defining what would be tolerable. That ship sailed about two months ago. At this point I hope something positive happens otherwise it's going to be a long winter. If we win Saturday it sets up a fun Friday against Iowa, and I'd like to think the team would show more of a pulse than we've seen all year. That's what I'll be watching for.

 

[CatColumbia]

4 wins = Horrendous season
5 wins = Improvement on paper (But did we really improve? I don't think so).
6 wins = tolerable and improvement
7 wins = Good finish to the year, building momentum for the next.

 

[Lincoln100]

No end would get the stank off of this turd of a season, but winning out would make the stank a little less potent

 

[Ewooc]

I'm not going to get hung up on defining what would be tolerable. That ship sailed about two months ago. At this point I hope something positive happens otherwise it's going to be a long winter. If we win Saturday it sets up a fun Friday against Iowa, and I'd like to think the team would show more of a pulse than we've seen all year. That's what I'll be watching for.

I think many will agree with that. Man if we lose both and end up with another 4-8, not sure how anyone can justify that. I think changes on staff would have to be made to settle the masses a bit.

 

[HuskerTilDeath_rivals]

Can you please add an option for recruiting fast players like Oregon and UCF?

 

[c3o]

What’s happened has happened. We are a bottom dweller in this conference losing to other bottom dwellers. This season was over when we lost to Colorado, another bottom dweller.

I just hope we can close on some recruits, get more starters who want to win, and the coaches learn from their mistakes and field a team that can win games in 2020.


Not trying to poo poo this board, like it needs more of that. Just being realistic. This season is lost, this team in 2019 sucks, I hope next year is better


Also, just to throw you off I used lower case “L’s” for every capitalized “I” in this rant. Good luck trying to figure that out!!

L’m looking forward to 2020!

 

[CatColumbia]

What’s happened has happened. We are a bottom dweller in this conference losing to other bottom dwellers. This season was over when we lost to Colorado, another bottom dweller.

I just hope we can close on some recruits, get more starters who want to win, and the coaches learn from their mistakes and field a team that can win games in 2020.


Not trying to poo poo this board, like it needs more of that. Just being realistic. This season is lost, this team in 2019 sucks, I hope next year is better


Also, just to throw you off I used lower case “L’s” for every capitalized “I” in this rant. Good luck trying to figure that out!!

L’m looking forward to 2020!

You actually echo my thoughts. Going to wait and see how this season plays out before thrashing the senior class. As Frost stated, we have too many guys on this team that feel like it's OK to lose. Need to get that culture out.

 

[goldencohusker]

Even with re-callibrated expectations, a loss against Maryland will be disappointing as will anything other than a respectable showing against Iowa. 7 wins seems unattainable unless some switch gets flipped that hasn't been found yet.

While I am hopeful for next year, I am also not exactly looking forward to having to endure the next 8 months and the annual hype/hope train that starts rolling every year that we're better, stronger, faster, smarter, and more talented and motivated than we were the prior year. Right now, I feel like Charlie Brown lying on his back after Lucy yanked the ball one more time.

 

[grayhairedfreak]

Even with re-callibrated expectations, a loss against Maryland will be disappointing as will anything other than a respectable showing against Iowa. 7 wins seems unattainable unless some switch gets flipped that hasn't been found yet.

While I am hopeful for next year, I am also not exactly looking forward to having to endure the next 8 months and the annual hype/hope train that starts rolling every year that we're better, stronger, faster, smarter, and more talented and motivated than we were the prior year. Right now, I feel like Charlie Brown lying on his back after Lucy yanked the ball one more time.

Well said! Regarding your 2nd paragraph, maybe I'm naïve but I don't think a majority of knowledgeable fans will believe the hype this time around. 2020 is gonna have to be a 'show me' season.

 

[CatColumbia]

Well said! Regarding your 2nd paragraph, maybe I'm naïve but I don't think a majority of knowledgeable fans will believe the hype this time around. 2020 is gonna have to be a 'show me' season.

I agree. We still have a few sunshine pumpers and a few that are on the brink of jumping off a bridge but for the most part, most of us are neutral and need to start seeing results on the field. All the heavy squat lifting, Navy Seal training by the lake, increased muscle mass, culture flipped rhetoric will mean nothing to us until we start beating the bottom feeders of the world.

 

[goldencohusker]

Well said! Regarding your 2nd paragraph, maybe I'm naïve but I don't think a majority of knowledgeable fans will believe the hype this time around. 2020 is gonna have to be a 'show me' season.

Despite nearly 20 years of lessons learned and logic-based promises to myself, every year I eventually sample the koolaid.

 

[huskerssalts]

Im sure at the start of the year not one of us could have envisioned Neb staring down another 4-8 season. I said at the beginning of the year if this team got anything under 8 wins we have huge problems. Yet here were are, and my statement holds true, we do have huge problems. However, that statement was based on a schedule I assumed would be much much easier. At the start of the year we had the 88th ranked SOS. Then teams like MN, Indiana, and wisc decided to do much better than most expected. Currently we are sitting at 32nd SOS. Last year we started at 40th and ended up 46th. So we actually played a tougher schedule this year than last.
So my question, all things considered what would you consider a successful season. Maybe successful is the wrong word. What would you consider a tolerable end to the season.
* Poll should be 7-6 not 7-5

If we can beat Maryland and Iowa (I’m very confident we beat Maryland at the very least) then we will go to a bowl game and probably play another struggling team or a bad team. We could very well finish our 7-6. Compared to how this season started and went...I’d be satisfied if we could at least finish that way. I wouldn’t call it a success or a successful season but it would be a way to finish the season out strong and on a positive note. Those bowl practices would be HUGE for our young guys.

 

[Ewooc]

If we can beat Maryland and Iowa (I’m very confident we beat Maryland at the very least) then we will go to a bowl game and probably play another struggling team or a bad team. We could very well finish our 7-6. Compared to how this season started and went...I’d be satisfied if we could at least finish that way. I wouldn’t call it a success or a successful season but it would be a way to finish the season out strong and on a positive note. Those bowl practices would be HUGE for our young guys.

Best guess if we do go bowling it will be to the Quck Lanes bowl or Pinstripe bowl vs an ACC team. Those possible teams could be Miami, Fl St, or Louisivlle. I would be more than happy playing FL St or Miami. Maybe if UNC, Duke, NC state, can get bowl eligible on of those.

 

[huskerssalts]

Best guess if we do go bowling it will be to the Quck Lanes bowl or Pinstripe bowl vs an ACC team. Those possible teams could be Miami, Fl St, or Louisivlle. I would be more than happy playing FL St or Miami. Maybe if UNC, Duke, NC state, can get bowl eligible on of those.

well there could be a chance we could back into another bowl game at 5-7 like we did with Mike Riley. I’d take that too if it happened. But let’s hope we pull off these next two games and lock down a bowl game instead of hope we back into one. Fingers crossed.

 

[BleedRed78]

Ultimately I'd love to just beat Iowa so we can at least shut their fans up and make fun of them for a good squad of theirs losing to a bad squad of ours. But if that's the case we should be able to beat Maryland by all accounts. So 6-6 for bowl berth. Don't really care if we win that one at this point, just want the extra practices for young guys and to be able to use positive momentum for recruiting and off-season. Here's to hoping.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

Nothing could make this a successful season

 

[ridge222]

There is still a lot for the team to play for in these last two games. Maryland, they have a good shot at winning, which right now a win on the road would be a big boost.
Second, you have a chance to beat a "rival" in your last game and get to a bowl. Like Jimmy McGinty said "Gotta have heart. Miles and miles of heart".

 

[huskerssalts]

Ultimately I'd love to just beat Iowa so we can at least shut their fans up and make fun of them for a good squad of theirs losing to a bad squad of ours. But if that's the case we should be able to beat Maryland by all accounts. So 6-6 for bowl berth. Don't really care if we win that one at this point, just want the extra practices for young guys and to be able to use positive momentum for recruiting and off-season. Here's to hoping.

if we can pull that Iowa game off, i’d be thrilled. The best thing would be not seeing Iowa trolls living on our board. We wouldn’t see them again for a while. I really hope Frost keeps that fire and drive from the Wisconsin game and keeps building on it. Then our next step is fixing those red zone issues. We got to score when we get inside the 20. That cost us the Wisconsin game...

 

[Hastings4Huskers]

This season is to lost to be considered a successful season no matter what happens the rest of the way. I think the coaches and players would feel the same way..

I am just hoping to finish strong and have some momentum leading into the final part of the recruiting season.

 

[dand84]

So last year I picked us to win 6 pre-season and thought I was being overly cautious considering where everyone else was at. This year pre-season, I had us with 6 again and a bowl game and thought I was being overly cautious again

I am still holding out hope to be right once.

 

[Clemke32]

I think many will agree with that. Man if we lose both and end up with another 4-8, not sure how anyone can justify that. I think changes on staff would have to be made to settle the masses a bit.

I understand what you’re saying but man you don’t ever make changes to “settle the masses” you make the changes because they Need to be made (if changes need to be made) if you start making changes just to settle the masses you start to run the program even further down... Consistency is key to progression, changes even minor things such as position coaches start to become major issues if you’re doing it just settle the masses... moral of the story make changes because they are needed, not because they are wanted by the masses

 

[B1G RED RULES]

I would like to see our staff develop 3 star

if we can pull that Iowa game off, i’d be thrilled. The best thing would be not seeing Iowa trolls living on our board. We wouldn’t see them again for a while. I really hope Frost keeps that fire and drive from the Wisconsin game and keeps building on it. Then our next step is fixing those red zone issues. We got to score when we get inside the 20. That cost us the Wisconsin game...

Somebody mentioned kool aid earlier. I have not seen anything from this team that makes me think we can beat Iowa, unless they play down to our level as they are known to do at times. To do that, they will need to dumb down their 3 star roster to 1 & 2 star potential.

 

[huskerssalts]

I would like to see our staff develop 3 star

Somebody mentioned kool aid earlier. I have not seen anything from this team that makes me think we can beat Iowa, unless they play down to our level as they are known to do at times. To do that, they will need to dumb down their 3 star roster to 1 & 2 star potential.

oh? Not even the almost 500 total yards of offense against Wisconsin and the number 1 defense in the country? We only lost that game because we couldn’t finish a few drives and a missed FG. If we can go nose to nose with the Badgers, we most definitely can do it with Iowa. No doubt in my mind. If you don’t see or doubt, that’s on you my man. But if we play Iowa like we did Wisconsin and manage to finish the drives...we can pull this game off.

 

[TruHusker]

I would like to see our staff develop 3 star

Somebody mentioned kool aid earlier. I have not seen anything from this team that makes me think we can beat Iowa, unless they play down to our level as they are known to do at times. To do that, they will need to dumb down their 3 star roster to 1 & 2 star potential.

oh? Not even the almost 500 total yards of offense against Wisconsin and the number 1 defense in the country? We only lost that game because we couldn’t finish a few drives and a missed FG. If we can go nose to nose with the Badgers, we most definitely can do it with Iowa. No doubt in my mind. If you don’t see or doubt, that’s on you my man. But if we play Iowa like we did Wisconsin and manage to finish the drives...we can pull this game off.

Total defense - Wisconsin is #4 giving up 257 yards per game.

Nebraska is #82 giving up 413 yards per game

Is there another stat that makes them #1?

edit: I looked up Red Zone offense - Georgia is #1 at .976, Nebraska is #122 at .700. We haven’t shown the ability to finish drives all year and on the other hand, stop others, not a great combination.

 

[SkerInCo]

It seems like with every loss comes a new unexpected low.

sCUm was rough but not relevant to the conference.
OSU was expected.
Minnie I can understand an L but not the blowout.
Then Indiana and Purdue should never happen, completely inexcusable.
A loss to a god awful Maryland team is a cherry on top of an immensely disappointing season.

 

[phoenix4nu]

It seems like with every loss comes a new unexpected low.

sCUm was rough but not relevant to the conference.
OSU was expected.
Minnie I can understand an L but not the blowout.
Then Indiana and Purdue should never happen, completely inexcusable.
A loss to a god awful Maryland team is a cherry on top of an immensely disappointing season.

Colorado was the biggest disappointment for me. It was the first sign that things hadn’t changed much since last year.

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

So last year I picked us to win 6 pre-season and thought I was being overly cautious considering where everyone else was at. This year pre-season, I had us with 6 again and a bowl game and thought I was being overly cautious again

I am still holding out hope to be right once.

Can you pick us to win 15 next year? If you're gonna be wrong, be spectacularly wrong.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Frost will bank an additional 10 million dollars - tremendously successful season for him

 

[CatColumbia]

It seems like with every loss comes a new unexpected low.

sCUm was rough but not relevant to the conference.
OSU was expected.
Minnie I can understand an L but not the blowout.
Then Indiana and Purdue should never happen, completely inexcusable.
A loss to a god awful Maryland team is a cherry on top of an immensely disappointing season.

If we lose to Maryland we need to shut it down. Death penalty style.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

More public blaming of players about buy-in by the HC as well as more press conference statements about needing better players I think would be a good finish.

 

[oldjar07]

I understand what you’re saying but man you don’t ever make changes to “settle the masses” you make the changes because they Need to be made (if changes need to be made) if you start making changes just to settle the masses you start to run the program even further down... Consistency is key to progression, changes even minor things such as position coaches start to become major issues if you’re doing it just settle the masses... moral of the story make changes because they are needed, not because they are wanted by the masses

I agree changes shouldn't be directed by the masses, but there is an obvious need for changes to be made regardless of how the rest of the season plays out. Alabama has had a ton of coaching staff turnover but they're still a great team. Some turnover after back to back losing seasons isn't going to hurt.

 

[phoenix4nu]

More public blaming of players by the HC as well as more press conference statements about needing better players I think would be a good finish.

Have to agree with your point there. It can’t be helping morale or confidence.

 

[oldjar07]

Colorado was the biggest disappointment for me. It was the first sign that things hadn’t changed much since last year.

The first quarter of the South Alabama game you could see things hadn't changed much. With all the missed tackles, the horrible Oline play, and Amart's lack of confidence, you could tell we were in for a long season. I didn't have confidence at all we were going to beat Colorado after that South Alabama game.

 

[Husker Hambone]

To make this season successful we need to beat Maryland, Iowa, and win the bowl game. The team desperately needs a taste of success.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Frost will bank an additional 10 million dollars - tremendously successful season for him

he might be the highest paid coach on a per win basis in all the land.

 

[Clemke32]

I agree changes shouldn't be directed by the masses, but there is an obvious need for changes to be made regardless of how the rest of the season plays out. Alabama has had a ton of coaching staff turnover but they're still a great team. Some turnover after back to back losing seasons isn't going to hurt.

I know you will strongly disagree with my stance on this but here I go anyways... well before I go I’ll start with saying I am historically very indecisive on the whole changes obviously need to be made... I will be the first to admit that I am not pleased with the performance of our defense, but I have also outlined on multiple occasions why I think our D is where it’s at and my bottom line point is I don’t think it’s all on the coaches... as I’ve said before we are talking about and seeing the same issues from the same group of kids that were here before this staff that we have been seeing and talking about since before this staff... the not driving through contact not wrapping up no hustle not playing through the whistles, it’s all been there from these kids for a long time and the staff can’t constantly work on the things these kids should have known before they even got here, since working on those issues takes away from the game planning... but I guess to try and shorten my ramble I’d say don’t be surprised if there are no changes made at all, I know me personally I wouldn’t be upset if I seen change in the staff, but I wouldn’t be surprised or upset to see it stay the same... the common sense aspect says the coaches are teaching the fundamentals when they can, because no one purposely cuts out parts of their job that will be obvious for everyone to see since it will leans to being fired... I trust the staff is doing what they can, but they are also limited with what personnel they can play at this time... only time will tell what we really truly have For players and coaches

 

[TruHusker]

I know you will strongly disagree with my stance on this but here I go anyways... well before I go I’ll start with saying I am historically very indecisive on the whole changes obviously need to be made... I will be the first to admit that I am not pleased with the performance of our defense, but I have also outlined on multiple occasions why I think our D is where it’s at and my bottom line point is I don’t think it’s all on the coaches... as I’ve said before we are talking about and seeing the same issues from the same group of kids that were here before this staff that we have been seeing and talking about since before this staff... the not driving through contact not wrapping up no huddle not playing through the whistles, it’s all been there from these kids for a long time and the staff can’t constantly work on the things these kids should have known before they even got here, since working on those issues takes away from the game planning... but I guess to try and shorten my ramble I’d say don’t be surprised if there are no changes made at all, I know me personally I wouldn’t be upset if I seen change in the staff, but I wouldn’t be surprised or upset to see it stay the same... the common sense aspect says the coaches are teaching the fundamentals when they can, because no one purposely cuts out parts of their job that will be obvious for everyone to see since it will leans to being fired... I trust the staff is doing what they can, but they are also limited with what personnel they can play at this time... only time will tell what we really truly have For players and coaches

Wait, did I read this correctly? Players are supposed to know the fundamentals before they get here but then later you say the coaches are to teach technique. What am I missing?

 

[Cloud_a_Heart]

 

[oldjar07]

Wait, did I read this correctly? Players are supposed to know the fundamentals before they get here but then later you say the coaches are to teach technique. What am I missing?

The fundamentals need to be put into practice every day. If the coaches see that players aren't playing fundamentally sound, they need to take the time to correct it and emphasize the issue. No matter how good your game plan is, it's not going to matter if your players aren't fundamentally sound. You can't just take a two week fundamentals 101 course and never have to worry about it again. The fundamentals need to be practiced and emphasized every day if you expect the players to play that way on Saturdays.