Student section at the hump.

rem101

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I'm sure this has been discussed, and probably deals with the new season ticket holders, but why in the hell are we the only school that has our student section behind our own goal in the 2nd half? Seems like it would be more beneficial to have them behind the oppositions basket when shooting freethrows with 30 seconds left. No offense, blue hairs.

Obviously this would help more with a full student section like we used to have, which I'm sure Howland will have back shortly.
 

jb1020

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I hope I'm wrong

But the atmosphere at the hump might not ever get back to where it used to be. I know its a money deal, but damn it was sad watching last night.

Are the students still divided up?

OM did their new arena right. I read they have premium seating on one side of the court and the other 3 sides of the court are students.
 

Drewbowski

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I told some blue hair sitting next to me last night, "This guy[Howland] will win but this place will never be what it was"
 

aTotal360

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Hope Loafers realizes that people buy tickets and attend the game because of the experience. Not because they can sit 12 feet closer to the floor than the students. Without a healthy student section, the atmosphere is flat. It's kinda like booking a band at a bar in Starkville. You book a band that chicks will dig so all the dudes will follow and you get money from both of them.
 

jb1020

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The biggest problem, at least in my mind

is ever since they kicked out the "lifers" or whatever you want to call them 10 years ago the "big donors" we have buy all the tickets that they're allotted.

one donor that's eligible to buy 8 season tickets buys those 8 tickets and probably only uses them all once or twice a year. 90% of the time those tickets just go to waste.

Does a ticket exchange program even exist?
 

aTotal360

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It does. There are some awkward transitions that simply don't work. There is no defined crescendo. Feels like an odd hodgepodge of skits.
 

RocketDawg

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I guess I'm a "blue hair" (actually white, and isn't it normally females that are blue hairs?), but I'd say put the students wherever they disrupt the opposing team the most.

I used to have season tickets, not court side but up top, and only went to a few conference games on the weekend. I gave them up so some who might use them more often could get them. I don't care that much about basketball anyway.
 

kired

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8 pm Tuesday night tipoffs don't help either. I'd love to go to weeknight games, have access to tickets, but I can't deal with getting back home at 11:30pm on a Tuesday or Wednesday (live 1hr 15 minutes away). Seems like 7pm used to be the standard... or maybe it has always been 8pm and it just wasn't a big deal to me because I didn't have kids 5 years ago.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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I'm sure this has been discussed, and probably deals with the new season ticket holders, but why in the hell are we the only school that has our student section behind our own goal in the 2nd half? Seems like it would be more beneficial to have them behind the oppositions basket when shooting freethrows with 30 seconds left. No offense, blue hairs.

Obviously this would help more with a full student section like we used to have, which I'm sure Howland will have back shortly.


We have the worst game atmosphere and student section layout that I have ever seen...Add the TERRIBLE marketing/promotions to complete the circle. I feel like I am at saturday night bingo with the grandparents. We need a hype guy(not the one we had a few years back). I thought it would be better with SEC games...nope.
I know the response to this will be about how when we get a better product on the court then they will come but I am not necessarily talking about the amount of people there. The overall implementation on the game atmosphere is terrible.
 

BulldogBlitz

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I guess I'm a "blue hair" (actually white, and isn't it normally females that are blue hairs?), but I'd say put the students wherever they disrupt the opposing team the most.

and then give them lessons in what to do.

I was a white hair in college (genetic)... and sometimes a maroon hair...and sometimes maroon and white... being asked to "sit down" by students is just plain silly. basketball is a spectator sport. i definitely recall standing and cheering (and being exhausted) the entire 4OT game v. OM.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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I think one's perception changes as they get older. Kind of like how the thought of going to the fair when your a kid is "WOW It can't get any better than this" and as you get older its like......"meh..it will never be like it was when I was a kid"

When Howland starts winning it will exceed what it was.
 

esplanade91

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But the atmosphere at the hump might not ever get back to where it used to be. I know its a money deal, but damn it was sad watching last night.

Are the students still divided up?

OM did their new arena right. I read they have premium seating on one side of the court and the other 3 sides of the court are students.
Students haven't returned for the semester yet. I'm all for giving this group of current students hell for not showing up (what else are you doing in Starkville on a Wednesday at 8pm?) but I thought tonight's crowd was pretty good for a winter break game.
 

horshack.sixpack

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2 step solution = instant improvement

1) re-seat students
2) Bring back Flick

Super D, Silky Smooth and BP all approve this message.
 

DawgatAuburn

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Avery Johnson gets this.

At least the part about having them together.


http://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/index.ssf/2015/08/alabama_basketball_student_sec.html


Alabama basketball student section moving in 2015


Bill Battle gives Avery Johnson a tour of the basketball facilities when he was hired in April. (file photo)

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From his first day on the job, Avery Johnson hinted at this possibility. There were plans, he said a few times since.
Now, those ideas are coming together.
Alabama on Wednesday announced they were changing the seating chart at basketball games. Among the modifications, students will be moving closer to the action.
The new student seats will be located on the sideline directly across from the visiting bench in Sections R and S from Row 1-32. It will create a wrap-around seating bloc along with Sections T, U and V.
The fate of the three rows of student seats in risers behind the basket close to the Tide bench is still being decided, a UA spokesman said.
The changes were made after Alabama studied other "vibrant on-campus basketball arenas around the Southeastern Conference and around the nation," according to a university news release.
More changes are possible in the future. "No decisions have been finalized for next season, but there is a possibility that we could have further changes in coming seasons," the news release reads.
Season ticket holders who previously occupied the Section R and S will have the option to move to the seats directly behind the basket previously held by students in Sections W, X, and Z.
The shift in student sections will cause network television cameras to move to the opposite side of the arena. That will lead to the floor being repainted so the mid-court script-A logo won't appear upside down on TV.
This story will be updated.
New Coleman Coliseum seating chart.
 
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msudawg12

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Looks good on TV. Makes sure its loud basically all the way around the court. Even allows you to charge more for premium seating.

Hell I'm row 7 in the corner, I would lose my seats proposing this but I think its a great idea
 

twopack

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That also describes me

I totally agree with this. The games that have the student section right at courtside are the best ones to watch on TV. See Duke, Florida, etc. Hell I cannot even see the MSU student section on tv. Just a bunch of older people with their arms folded. Amazing that the athletic department could care less about an intimidating atmosphere. Well, they may care, but the few extra bucks apparently overrides everything else. It used to be fun. No more. I realize it is all about $$$, but with the infusion of all those dollars from SEC network, It seems to me like they could settle for a little less dollars and reseat the basketball arena.

This is one blue hair who still takes his 54 year old cowbell to football games and supports the students giving the opposing teams hell, but they need to have better seating to accomplish that - especially at the hump.
I guess I'm a "blue hair" (actually white, and isn't it normally females that are blue hairs?), but I'd say put the students wherever they disrupt the opposing team the most.

I used to have season tickets, not court side but up top, and only went to a few conference games on the weekend. I gave them up so some who might use them more often could get them. I don't care that much about basketball anyway.
 

Wizard.sixpack

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YES YES YES!! After watching these....I can further confirm we need to make changes.
 
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DerHntr

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I wonder how much more difficult reseating would be now that you guys are suggesting to move the customers with a checkbook and a voice. When they moved the students there was basically nothing they could do or say that amounted to anything. With our highest paying customers getting used to those former student seats, it may cause a few more problems.

I definitely think it should be done. I'm just saying it may not be as easy this time.
 

CochiseCowbell

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Damn. That's impressive. I'm not sure how we'd pull that off. We don't have Raphael as a mascot.
 

msudawg12

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I wonder how much more difficult reseating would be now that you guys are suggesting to move the customers with a checkbook and a voice. When they moved the students there was basically nothing they could do or say that amounted to anything. With our highest paying customers getting used to those former student seats, it may cause a few more problems.

I definitely think it should be done. I'm just saying it may not be as easy this time.

there arent that many customers anymore....

the year before last, I was on the 8th row of the upper deck. Last year, they moved me to the 7th row of the lower level. I did not increase my giving.....

point is: there arent many people to piss off if you change it and those guys are buying tickets anyway. Essentially, you'd just move everyone back 6-8 rows. That's not that big of a deal. And if we do add premium club/boxes, that takes care of the front row guys anyway because that is what they will do
 

rem101

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I'm in those former student seats. I'll gladly move. But that's still the wrong spot. It's still by the goal we're shooting at in the 2nd half and they need to be by the opponents goal, or surrounding the whole court like others have mentioned.
 

tcdog70

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They ran off the true MSU basketball Fans-about 5 thousand of them --took their seats and gave them to Money folks who don't give a flying 17 about basketball. They moved the students and then fired Hank and Stans then hired Rick Ray. Now they wonder why the HUMP sux.
 

engie

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I think to really get this right we'd need to lower the court and drop the first 8-12 rows a couple of feet. Basically creating whole new sections up front. As it currently exists, there would be no satisfying the holders of the "premium seats" directly behind what would hopefully be a rowdy student section. Seems like a good opportunity to do that, with the court already planned on being replaced after the season.
 

hailstate19

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I think to really get this right we'd need to lower the court and drop the first 8-12 rows a couple of feet. Basically creating whole new sections up front. As it currently exists, there would be no satisfying the holders of the "premium seats" directly behind what would hopefully be a rowdy student section. Seems like a good opportunity to do that, with the court already planned on being replaced after the season.

Where could I find information on that? I liked how last time they let people vote on what the court should look like.
 

engie

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Where could I find information on that? I liked how last time they let people vote on what the court should look like.

Was one of Howland's early press conferences. Said our floor has lost the springiness. I got the idea at the time he was indirectly tying it to our rash of knee injuries.
 

RocketDawg

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They'd eventually get used to it, especially if the team starts performing at a high level. To me, the Hump isn't like a football stadium where some seats must be 150 yards away from the field ... there's not really a bad seat in the Hump from a distance perspective. I think there's some sight line blockage though.

Personally, I'd rather sit in the upper level ("on the 50, so to speak, not the "end zone") than in the lower level.
 

hailstate19

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Where is the current student section? I couldn't even tell at the game I went to this year. Also where was the old students section at?
 
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Current Student sections are behind the basketball goals on each end of the court. The old Student section used to be 1/4 of the lower bowl, from mid court to where the band sits.

Everyone took out The Reflector newspaper and read it while the other team's line up was announced. Students would stand from pregame warm ups until MSU scored our first basket of the game. The unified things were cool but then there were also some creative individual things that were cool too. The mid 1990s "ball heads" were guys who cut open and wore basketballs on their heads---stood the whole game and danced around. The "horse heads" were guys who wore rubber horse head masks and did similar things in the early 2000s. The "poster guy" was a student in the early 2000s who had a seat almost behind the goal, when the other team was shooting Foul Shots the "poster guy" would stand up and flash a poster of a Woman in a skimpy swimsuit---if they made the 1st Foul Shot, then the 2nd Foul Shot attempted the guy would flash a poster of a Man in a Speedo! Awesome memories of Hank Flick, "Super D for 3"---"Big Eric Dampier"---"Cameron SMOKE Burns"---"All Aboard the BIG Train".
 

Bulldogg31

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That's what it was like when I was there. I remember giving Chris Jackson so much hell he almost teared up. I actually felt bad for the guy.

Even somewhat recently the Hump had a great atmosphere. Joakim Noah, Al Horford and Corey Brewer all named Humphrey Coliseum as the most difficult road arena they played in when they filled out questionnaires as top 50 preseason finalists for the John R. Wooden Award.

'It gets loud,' Brewer said. 'I don't know why. It's a different kind of loud. So loud that you can't think.'"

I miss those days. Stricklin has to make a change. Watching all those old folks slumped over in their seats behind the goal is just depressing. No offense guys.
 

rem101

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Current Student sections are behind the basketball goals on each end of the court. The old Student section used to be 1/4 of the lower bowl, from mid court to where the band sits.

The student section is not split anymore. It's only behind one goal, which is the one we shoot towards in the 2nd half, the whole point of this thread. Either switch the students, or just switch the side we sit on. Both solutions make the opposition shooting into student section down the stretch.
 
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It is set up to be a "money grab" situation now---Bulldog Club folks from Biloxi paying high dollar for mid court seats, paying a large "bribe" / donation for the seating section, and coming to maybe 1/3 of the games. Not an insult to Gulf Coast folks it is just tough to make it to those 7 PM Thursday night games.
 

philduckworth

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Let me also say the music is just awful! The guy is playing C&C music factory and Whoop there it is. It's embarrassing. Just go to a Grizzles game and copy their music selection.
 
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