Strength & Conditioning
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Convenient and utterly bogus excuse that has the added benefit of being available to explain future losses and/or bad performances. Its Mike Riley's fault !!!
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I don't like S&C spin, same old BS...it's Riley's fault...Just STOP! Frost has been bragging on this team almost as much as the media. Is he drinking his own Kool-aide.
Shut up and let's see this huge improvement on the field. Saturday night is an absolute must win and not by one score.
This "shut up and play" stuff is so stupid. These coaches, like all coaches in American have to answer questions all off-season and every week between games. And guess what, they all spend the off-season talking about how hard the kids are working and how much the team is improving. It's not some crime against humanity or a personal insult to you. It just is what it is. Maybe just take it at face value and know every coach does this every year and not get so butthurt about it.
I get it ...... I should probably back off but inconsistent arguments make my radar go off
for instance I don't understand how many can proclaim Frost an elite coach with a sample size of less than 2 seasons at UCF and now at Nebraska the narrative has morphed into - you really can't make any determinations based on the first 2 seasons - a coach really needs 3-4 years before the team becomes his own.
My last hike in Wyoming started at 9600, went up over a ridge at about 10500, then down to 10,000, then up over another ridge and down then straight up a boulder field to about 12,600 then back to where we started. Total hiking distance was roughly 17 miles and we did it as a day hike. I blew out a meniscus this past spring and need a knee replacement so I think my days of doing those kinds of hikes are over. Getting too damned old. I guess I hiked to near 13,000 in RMNP a couple of years ago too.
I hear you, and I can see how that can be equally frustrating as well. Sometimes I read on this board stuff that even makes me (always an optimist) want to pump the brakes a bit.
No it isn't. This is Frosts team. He is responsible for what happens from here on out. However, denying the **** storm he walked into is just plain ignorant. Not excuses, they are facts. Again, Im not giving him a free pass. If you go look at my previous posts I have been a heavy critic of his coaching last year and this year. He is not living up to expectation and is frankly looking like an below average coach right now. However, expecting any coach to come in here and flip this thing completely in a year is insane. Should he have he won more that 4 games last year 100%. Should he have he been able to beat CU 100%. But anyone who was expecting 10 wins and a potential BIG10 title year 2 is living in a dream land. He should however be able to get to 7 or 8 wins and compete for the West.
Colorado started 5-0 before going on the road for 2 and losing to USC (who they've never beaten....ever, and had better talent than their record indicated), and Washington (who has been pretty solid) in a couple of pretty close games (Washington was closer than final score indicated). I don't think there was an issue after those 2 games....
MacIntyre left the program in better shape than he found it, but I felt he took the foot off the gas pedal too early against the Beavers...and then a freak thing happened. I think that game caused some internal strife in the locker room that they never got over.
In 2 games against Nebraska, Montez was 61 of 91 for 726 yards (67%), with 5 TDs. He was sacked 13 times, and only threw 1 interception in 91 attempts. Usually guys start making bad throws when they get hit like that.
He's not 1st Team All-Everything, but I think he deserves a little more credit than you're giving him.
Well, just keep repeating this enough it will be gospel truth and the reason for every bad season.
I also heard players say it was a myth that they didn't lift. Maybe they didn't lift like they do now, not everyone does. It really is time to give this a break, it is a well worn excuse.
Instead of taking pot shots, enlighten us. What is the issue? Coaching? Lack of talent? Don’t just make fun of posts trying to make sense of things... give your take.
Yeah, the narrative that the Riley regime didn’t lift is completely false. Were they held accountable like they are now? Not really. But saying they didn’t lift is false. There were some saying that they didn’t even squat when there were videos out there of players in squat competitions doing reps at some big weights.
From what I have been told, Mark Phillip has a pretty good program, but the players weren’t held accountable by the coaching staff and Phillip was told to tone it down with the players.
I already did in another post. It's not one thing which should be obvious to the most casual observer.
Of course they lifted, who has said they never touch weights. It was the intensity and extra push that wasn't there. I have heard more players than not say things like it was come went you want type of mentality when it came lifting. There was no motivation to be better and do better. Even some former players who were around during weight lifting session have said it looked like very few were working too hard and looked more like visiting hour vs weightlifting.
Not saying the S&C is the only issue. We have many right now. I can almost guarantee we were WAY behind teams like Iowa, Wisc, Ohio St and Mich in that area. The key is how far and how long does it take to get back.
As far as Saturday goes...I think Montez was right to a point....lots of ramped up hype, desire for revenge, talking, etc....that stuff wears you out. I think CU went in at halftime and said, "they came out amped up...we knew they would...we took their punches, but now they're tired, and we're still here....now, let's go."
As far as coaching....I thought Nebraska was nuts to offer Frost the job, and I thought he was nuts to take it. I just don't think one good year at a mid-major is a strong enough body of work. Yes, I'm aware that UCF was 0-12 the year before Frost got there. They were also 31-9 the 3 seasons prior to 0-12. In other words, the 0-12 wasn't very indicative of the true condition of the talent in the program. I think Frost did a great job righting the train for that program, but they would have been 8-4 at best in the Big 10/SEC...and that doesn't seem to get it done in Lincoln, as you've fired 2 coaches in the last 15 years that could do that pretty regularly.