Stoops on SEC officiating...
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I wish more coaches would speak up about this. They can afford the fine. I was just now starting to get over the Arky loss until this. Thinking about that 4th down holding call makes me sick to my stomach.
The best way to get real change...
is to have the Schools, Presidents, and AD's insist that the **** gets better. The the SEC office and officials are not infallible. The tail don't wag the dog.
is to have the Schools, Presidents, and AD's insist that the **** gets better. The the SEC office and officials are not infallible. The tail don't wag the dog.
As painfully frustrating as all of this is for fans, I can’t even imagine having to deal with crap like this week after week as a head coach that has millions on the line.
What blows my mind, however, is why the SEC doesn’t display the slightest desire to fix it. This isn’t 1985 where human judgment errors have to be part of the game. We’ve had the technology and resources for years to make the vast majority of these atrocious mistakes a thing of the past, but there’s no willingness to improve.
What blows my mind, however, is why the SEC doesn’t display the slightest desire to fix it. This isn’t 1985 where human judgment errors have to be part of the game. We’ve had the technology and resources for years to make the vast majority of these atrocious mistakes a thing of the past, but there’s no willingness to improve.
But we know there is a less than slim chance this actually happens, probably because they're too hooked on conference money and don't wanna rock the boat. Coaches are in a better position to mobilize the media and fanbases and, while I'm sure they appreciate the conference money aren't as personally beholden to it. These guys have fireplace money.
This is why I'm so surprised that the incompetence (or malicious 17headery) of our officiating is not being scrutinized further. The money is there and the need for reform is so painfully obvious. There are millions of dollars on the line, not to mention the jobs of coaches, and to a lesser extent the players themselves are affected. Yet the league wants to protect these expendable jackasses. Boggles the mind.
Instead we can chalk up TWO losses this season that are solely at the feet of retards in striped shirts.
The head official needs to be in the booth, controlling the game and correcting on field officials as the games is in progress.
It's because the teams that are affected most by the crappy officiating are the bottom half programs. A bad call against Bama or Georgia, and it probably does not affect the outcome of the game. It is forgotten the next day. But one or two bad calls in a game with (KY, MSU, OM, MO, AR, SC, VND, and many years lately TN) can kill that team's chance of winning a game at all. There is more degree of precision needed for these teams to win against a relatively equal or better team. The blue bloods don't see a problem, therefore nothing will change.
SEC is about protecting the big boys…. Could care less about what the other 2/3 of the SEC thinks.
Should all plays be reviewed and anything not initially called, then be called after the fact based on replay? That would give us the most accurately ref'd game.
Should all penalties be reviewed and potentially reversed, regardless of the type of penalty or time of game, etc? That would require a 30-60second dead period after each call is announced for there to be a review and potentially overturn the call.
I want more accurately ref'd games too. It may mean the game slows down and is extended though. Many dislike that.
Should all penalties be reviewed and potentially reversed, regardless of the type of penalty or time of game, etc? That would require a 30-60second dead period after each call is announced for there to be a review and potentially overturn the call.
I want more accurately ref'd games too. It may mean the game slows down and is extended though. Many dislike that.
Of course not. The games would take forever to play. We're already spending too much time reviewing plays that don't really matter. The answer is better recruitment and training for officials and to hold them accountable. Get the calls right the first time. Far too many of the missed calls are obvious ones that shouldn't require a review to get right.
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I would hate that. HATE IT!
Officials who make bad calls or no calls should be evaluated and suspended for a game or series of games. After your third suspension you are let go. Three strikes and you're out. Most of these 17ers are too comfortable. It's a great gig, but there are plenty of people looking for work and the SEC has plenty of money to provide adequate training and evaluations for their officials.
They should also have to undergo a series of tests before each season. They may do that now, but that too needs to be evaluated, cause whatever they're doing now is not working.
Officials who make bad calls or no calls should be evaluated and suspended for a game or series of games. After your third suspension you are let go. Three strikes and you're out. Most of these 17ers are too comfortable. It's a great gig, but there are plenty of people looking for work and the SEC has plenty of money to provide adequate training and evaluations for their officials.
They should also have to undergo a series of tests before each season. They may do that now, but that too needs to be evaluated, cause whatever they're doing now is not working.
It won't help because they need all coaches complaining about officiating quality. I'm more worried about quality and teaching them not to insert themselves into the game outcome and just overall making both teams forget they were there except to keep the game moving along. It would be nice if they occasionally asked the others what they saw on a subjective call that is not reviewable.
^^^This^^^ And a little bit would go a long way because they put so little emphasis on quality as it is.
Refs are trained to often let the play continue and then review. So they are trained to actually not make a call in real time. That has always been an odd one to me- I understand why they do it, but it also creates potential issues(penalties) for play that should be whistled dead.
Anyways, yes obviously getting it right the first time is ideal. With the bad holding call last week, the ref that threw the flag was behind the players and the player's backs were facing the ref(im pretty sure). The ref couldnt get a good look of if the trailing hand was holding, but the Arkansas player went down right when there was some contact so it looked like a penalty to the ref.
I dont know that better training can eliminate that from happening. Yes, other refs didnt call it, but you only have a few refs for 22 players so not all see everything. It wouldnt be acceptable for only the closest ref to call a penalty since they would inevitably miss a lot and that too would be bitched about, so refs making a call even if they arent the closest is something that makes sense.
The only way to then overturn that call is for replay to take place. Review every flag.
Absolutely! The official that threw the flag was behind the receiver and CB. He just reacted because the receiver flopped. If an official on the other side would have conferred with him and told him what really happened they would have picked up the flag and we would have won the game. Unfortunately, that didn't happen for whatever reason.
Seriously? Review every flag? The delays would be unbearable. The easy solution to review is only review on a coach's challenge. If he's wrong, he loses a time out; if he's out of time outs, it's a delay of game penalty. The coaches would very quickly sort out which plays need to be reviewed and which ones don't.
I think it was the NC state game they took five minutes to review where the ball needed to be placed. They moved the ball about a 1/2 yard.
I agree. . .
No one should ever be allowed to make three mistakes! Coach makes three bad in game decisions? Fired. Quarterback makes the wrong read three times? Cut. DB takes the wrong angle three times in a career? Cut! Janet in accounts receivable makes a mistake? Suspended. Three mistakes? Fired. It is completely ridiculous that we continue to allow people to make mistakes.
No one should ever be allowed to make three mistakes! Coach makes three bad in game decisions? Fired. Quarterback makes the wrong read three times? Cut. DB takes the wrong angle three times in a career? Cut! Janet in accounts receivable makes a mistake? Suspended. Three mistakes? Fired. It is completely ridiculous that we continue to allow people to make mistakes.
That is also a possibility. It doesnt actually clean up the incorrect calls, but it would clean up some for sure.
I thought that's what we would get with the replay officials. It would not have taken the replay official 10 seconds to call down to the crew and say "Pick up the flag. Burks flopped big time. No foul." If we can't use the technology we have now to ensure a fair outcome then there's no point in even trying.