Still missing pieces

IUHusker

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Mar 28, 2005
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I think WR, RB and QB we’ll be ok (need more years to develop)

OL - need to fix snaps ASAP (bench him, move him to guard,DE/DT/TE)

offense philosophy needs to evolve, what they are doing doesn’t work consistently without a STUD QB and and OL that can protect. Go to a simpler power running game, allow OL to develop and win T.O.P.

ILL took their lumps over the last few years because they were playing true frosh and now they are a Sr/Jr team that is tough in the trenches ... not a bad model
 
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I think WR, RB and QB we’ll be ok (need more years to develop)

OL - need to fix snaps ASAP (bench him, move him to guard,DE/DT/TE)

offense philosophy needs to evolve, what they are doing doesn’t work consistently without a STUD QB and and OL that can protect. Go to a simpler power running game, allow OL to develop and win T.O.P.

ILL took their lumps over the last few years because they were playing true frosh and now they are a Sr/Jr team that is tough in the trenches ... not a bad model
God help us if we're reduced to modeling ourselves after Illinois with its own losing record. That's the reality of how far we've sunk into the toilet bowl. And somebody ought to put gas masks on those cardboard dummies forced to populate the stands because we stunk up the field so bad even the dummies are complaining.
 

huskerbaseball13

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There are no amount of pieces that will turn Frost and his buddy Chinander into competent coaches.

Regardless, the stiffs they continue to roll out at OLB and WR just further proves they wouldn’t know talent if it hit them in their face.
 
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Frost simply does not have a QB to run his offense. In his post-game interview he admitted that he doesn’t want McCaffrey running as much as he did today. Frost wants a passer first and he has two kids who can’t wing it like they need to to be successful with his offense. What bothers me is that he should know that and adjust his offense accordingly, but he doesn’t. Then there’s the whole issue of his D Coordinator. Chinander must move on or Frosty’s days are certainly numbered.
 

vs540husker

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Frost simply does not have a QB to run his offense. In his post-game interview he admitted that he doesn’t want McCaffrey running as much as he did today. Frost wants a passer first.
If frost wanted a passer first, then he failed massively at recruiting, because that’s not what he went out and got.
 

BleedRed78

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I think WR, RB and QB we’ll be ok (need more years to develop)

OL - need to fix snaps ASAP (bench him, move him to guard,DE/DT/TE)

offense philosophy needs to evolve, what they are doing doesn’t work consistently without a STUD QB and and OL that can protect. Go to a simpler power running game, allow OL to develop and win T.O.P.

ILL took their lumps over the last few years because they were playing true frosh and now they are a Sr/Jr team that is tough in the trenches ... not a bad model
We actually have all the pieces we'd need to be a dangerous triple option team. But Frosts ego won't let him follow a winning recipe when he wants to create one himself.
 

IUHusker

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Mariota and Milton are both elite college qbs, we haven’t had anyone close to that level yet.

OL has to get better! Unfortunately that happens when players get bigger and stronger (takes jr/Sr players at everyplace other than Clem/OSU/ALA/GA/FL/ND)
Snaps should be/ could be fixed tomorrow.

betts and brown need to be in 50% or more of the snaps if to to nothing else then keep secondary honest.
 

BigRedBugeaters

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We don’t have one player on either side of the ball that would start for Iowa State let alone Ohio State. Some may have the talent but don’t play to it
 
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I think WR, RB and QB we’ll be ok (need more years to develop)

OL - need to fix snaps ASAP (bench him, move him to guard,DE/DT/TE)

offense philosophy needs to evolve, what they are doing doesn’t work consistently without a STUD QB and and OL that can protect. Go to a simpler power running game, allow OL to develop and win T.O.P.

ILL took their lumps over the last few years because they were playing true frosh and now they are a Sr/Jr team that is tough in the trenches ... not a bad model
Good observations, We need a grad transfer QB.
 
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If frost wanted a passer first, then he failed massively at recruiting, because that’s not what he went out and got.
Couldn’t disagree more. His offense has to have a kid who is a very good passer (that doesn’t mean a prototype NFL QB) but also one who can scramble and make plays on his feet as well. Look at the success UCF had in 2017. McKenzie Milton passed for over 4,000 yards on 395 pass attempts. He ran the ball 106 times for 613 yards. Passer 1st and runner 2nd? Runner 1st and passer 2nd? My point was his offense hinges on the QB being a very good passer and he doesn’t have that right now IMO. Luke may turn out to be that guy, but needs a lot more development with his arm. GBR.
 

SWIowahawks_rivals44758

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Couldn’t disagree more. His offense has to have a kid who is a very good passer (that doesn’t mean a prototype NFL QB) but also one who can scramble and make plays on his feet as well. Look at the success UCF had in 2017. McKenzie Milton passed for over 4,000 yards on 395 pass attempts. He ran the ball 106 times for 613 yards. Passer 1st and runner 2nd? Runner 1st and passer 2nd? My point was his offense hinges on the QB being a very good passer and he doesn’t have that right now IMO. Luke may turn out to be that guy, but needs a lot more development with his arm. GBR.
His offense is also predicated on playing against terrible defenses. AAC and PAC-12 offenses haven’t skipped a beat without Frost.
 

IndyNDBJJ

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Couldn’t disagree more. His offense has to have a kid who is a very good passer (that doesn’t mean a prototype NFL QB) but also one who can scramble and make plays on his feet as well. Look at the success UCF had in 2017. McKenzie Milton passed for over 4,000 yards on 395 pass attempts. He ran the ball 106 times for 613 yards. Passer 1st and runner 2nd? Runner 1st and passer 2nd? My point was his offense hinges on the QB being a very good passer and he doesn’t have that right now IMO. Luke may turn out to be that guy, but needs a lot more development with his arm. GBR.
Those offenses worked at UCF because they played JV defenses every year. Even when they played Auburn half that team opted out during bowl season after getting blown out in the SECCG. In a B1G season schedule playing that way will be a failure unless you have top 5 talent like OSU. Nebraska is trying to run an OSU offense with Illinois‘ talent. Look at Brian Kelly at ND. He ran a similar offense before getting to ND. He said at his opening presser that ND would be playing “basketball on grass.” After a short time he realized that wasn’t going to work at ND with their culture and schedule. Now it’s about defense, elite OL and TEs, run the ball and accurate QBs who can run when needed.
 
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Those offenses worked at UCF because they played JV defenses every year. Even when they played Auburn half that team opted out during bowl season after getting blown out in the SECCG. In a B1G season schedule playing that way will be a failure unless you have top 5 talent like OSU. Nebraska is trying to run an OSU offense with Illinois‘ talent. Look at Brian Kelly at ND. He ran a similar offense before getting to ND. He said at his opening presser that ND would be playing “basketball on grass.” After a short time he realized that wasn’t going to work at ND with their culture and schedule. Now it’s about defense, elite OL and TEs, run the ball and accurate QBs who can run when needed.
Agreed, and even more reason to change his style of offense if he expects to have success in the Big Ten. If he doesn’t have the pieces in place to run his offense in the first place, these are the results you should expect.
 

Redscarlet

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Agreed, and even more reason to change his style of offense if he expects to have success in the Big Ten. If he doesn’t have the pieces in place to run his offense in the first place, these are the results you should expect.

I don’t know what offense he is trying to run but it isn’t the offense that we envisioned when we hired him and that maybe because of not recruiting the kind of players he had at UCF cause other than Wan’Dale and McCaffery there isn‘t enough talent running this offense he wants..
 

IndyNDBJJ

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Agreed, and even more reason to change his style of offense if he expects to have success in the Big Ten. If he doesn’t have the pieces in place to run his offense in the first place, these are the results you should expect.
He needs to recruit & coach to the program’s culture. If he recruited top 250 OL, top 250 TE, and one RB, then concentrate on a solid two deep on defense, then it’s amazing how a QB can look so much better than they are. With a really good running game and defense you can be a top 20 program every year, then hit on a QB and be a top 5 team.
 

Fed-Up

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I have to disagree with the premise of this original post......the dumpster fire we witnessed yesterday was not because they are simply "Still Missing Pieces".

Yesterday was a total collapse in every aspect of the game. The coaching was (as usual) just horrendous. The thing that yesterday did prove is that this coaching staff has no ability to evaluate prospects....where is all the supposedly great talent they have recruited? Frost said "I didn't see this coming" WTF....it is his very well-paid job to SEE this coming. He is just not what we paid for or what we expected. Very sad and disappointing at the same time.
 

Crazyhole

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Its less about missing pieces and more about positions being in constant flux. Player rotations are basically like a fart in a skillet, and on top of that we have injuries way more often than we should. How a guy can get 5 or 6 snaps in a single game and then all of a sudden be out with an injury for 2 weeks makes me wonder what we are doing in practice, but more importantly wonder how we can ever expect anyone to get into a rhythm. On offense, I think the only position that has had the same starter every game is tackle. That ain't gonna cut it.
 

King Kong

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I think it's time we start coaching a player to his position and not cross training them. Let them learn how to play one position well, not two or three badly. It's also time to cut back on all the walk-ons. Our coaches need to spend more time with 85 players, not spread out over 140 players.
 

Husker Sledge

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Its less about missing pieces and more about positions being in constant flux. Player rotations are basically like a fart in a skillet, and on top of that we have injuries way more often than we should. How a guy can get 5 or 6 snaps in a single game and then all of a sudden be out with an injury for 2 weeks makes me wonder what we are doing in practice, but more importantly wonder how we can ever expect anyone to get into a rhythm. On offense, I think the only position that has had the same starter every game is tackle. That ain't gonna cut it.
I'm also really frustrated with the injury thing. How is it that every single freaking year we're fighting to keep key guys healthy?
 

TampaBaySkers

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I think WR, RB and QB we’ll be ok (need more years to develop)

OL - need to fix snaps ASAP (bench him, move him to guard,DE/DT/TE)

offense philosophy needs to evolve, what they are doing doesn’t work consistently without a STUD QB and and OL that can protect. Go to a simpler power running game, allow OL to develop and win T.O.P.

ILL took their lumps over the last few years because they were playing true frosh and now they are a Sr/Jr team that is tough in the trenches ... not a bad model

Fix the OL, and the other three get dramatically better.
 

NUSouth

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God help us if we're reduced to modeling ourselves after Illinois with its own losing record. That's the reality of how far we've sunk into the toilet bowl. And somebody ought to put gas masks on those cardboard dummies forced to populate the stands because we stunk up the field so bad even the dummies are complaining.