Steve Robertson? Validity?

[Aladawg30]

auchamps wrote: Steve, what did Mississippi State do? Why did the WR coach resign? I guess we'll both be on probation. We can call our game the "probation bowl".

Everything I am hearing about MSU and Will Redmond involved a third party booster. This idiot reached out to the kid and had him come to his tailgate, sent him clothes and directed him to a used car dealer who would give him a discount on a used Mustang.

The staff member was aware and did not report it. He was a rookie coach who was eager to land his first big fish, so he turned a blind eye to it.

There will be probation. It may only be a year or two, but there will be some sort of sanctions and rightfully so.

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[Shmuley]

I think it's safe to say we're going to get penalties for the Redmond ****. We fired the WR coach 2 weeks before the kickoff. That move was reactionary to something. What I'm hearing is that the firing was the result of an "agreement" between us and the NCAA about the rules violation and the appropriate penalties. In other words, we cooperated.

 

[RocketDawg]

Exactly who is Steve Robertson? I think he has something to do with Gene's Page? But ... what was his original connection with MSU? Previous player, or what?

 

[coach66]

I agree, once management found out about it they nipped it but

we will receive some punishment. I think we pretty much know what we are dealing with but other
programs don't know if they were ratted out yet or not.

 

[coach66]

You might know him better by his stage name "Rosebowl"**

nm

 

[Dawgology]

I hate the word probation in this instance...

What type of probation? Just a "if you jack up again in this specified amount of time your are going to get hammered" or "you're on probation from bowl games". What's the deal with that?

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Based on what Shmuley, etc. have been saying about cooperation, I think the former. For example, LSU was on probation last year and played in the BCS title game.

 

[was21]

Maybe it would be a good idea to find out "what happened" before anything is sanctioned or rightfully anything.

 

[aTotal360]

option A

I think we end up with probation for a couple years (not a bowl ban) and lose some in-home recruiting visits.

 

[sidexside]

scholarships and visits...

What type of probation? Just a "if you jack up again in this specified amount of time your are going to get hammered" or "you're on probation from bowl games". What's the deal with that?

That's what I hear.

 

[BehrDawg]

auchamps wrote: Steve, what did Mississippi State do? Why did the WR coach resign? I guess we'll both be on probation. We can call our game the "probation bowl".

Everything I am hearing about MSU and Will Redmond involved a third party booster. This idiot reached out to the kid and had him come to his tailgate, sent him clothes and directed him to a used car dealer who would give him a discount on a used Mustang.

The staff member was aware and did not report it. He was a rookie coach who was eager to land his first big fish, so he turned a blind eye to it.

There will be probation. It may only be a year or two, but there will be some sort of sanctions and rightfully so.

FOXSports/Scout.com
[email protected]
http://twitter.com/#!/ScoutSteveR​

Rosebowl is such a douche bag. Calling a booster an idiot is ridiculous, EVERY program has this going on. Rosebowl is the bigger idiot, afterall- he claimed we were going to play in the Rosebowl several years back.

 

[yakalot2]

Let me see if I have this right:

Idiot Booster is so inept he cannot even cheat without getting caught and causes MSU to have sanctions and have it's name dragged through the mud, while...

Idiot-Rosebowl makes a prediction that we would be in the national championship game, which caused HIM ridicule and shame, but did nothing to cause sanctions or harm to MSU, but Rosebowl is the bigger idiot in your eyes.

Do I have it correct?

 

[BehrDawg]

Yep, exactly. Rosebowl knows who this said booster is and it is his way of being a complete *** to him. Rogue booster was found out because of a snitch. It can happen to anyone use your head chief.

 

[EAVdog]

Yeah, you have it right Rosebowl is an idiot.

The guy makes his money promoting an MSU fansite and he's out on the street flapping his gums like a 5$ crack-ho to anyone who will listen. He needs to learn how to keep some things to himself. I'm sure the coaches don't appreciate some Jorts wearing kid stalker talking about an ongoing investigation.

But what's really bad is the only reason he's being so vocal is that he is trying to make another MSU pay site look bad. He could care less if the NCAA comes down hard on us as long as he can make 'Gene's page' look good. But people are smart and are leaving that place in droves. 247sports is so much better than Scout. Scout is nothing but one long continuous slap fight between two girlie-men named Yancy and Rosebowl. It's all drama all the time.

 

[BehrDawg]

The guy makes his money promoting an MSU fansite and he's out on the street flapping his gums like a 5$ crack-ho to anyone who will listen. He needs to learn how to keep some things to himself. I'm sure the coaches don't appreciate some Jorts wearing kid stalker talking about an ongoing investigation.

But what's really bad is the only reason he's being so vocal is that he is trying to make another MSU pay site look bad. He could care less if the NCAA comes down hard on us as long as he can make 'Gene's page' look good. But people are smart and are leaving that place in droves. 247sports is so much better than Scout. Scout is nothing but one long continuous slap fight between two girlie-men named Yancy and Rosebowl. It's all drama all the time.

^^^This^^^

 

[DerHntr]

The booster is an idiot regardless of how anyone found out. The original action is what will cause probation. And it can't happen to anyone because the vast majority of us aren't willing to put our university in the situation of potential NCAA sanctions by giving a damn kid they don't know some clothes and other stuff. Yes, I know it happens with every program. There are idiots associated with all of the programs.

Edit to add: I also think Rosebowl is a fool but not because of this particular thing.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

I agree. The booster is an idiot. I'd love to tell him to his idiot face. Idiot.

 

[maroonmania]

Yep, exactly. Rosebowl knows who this said booster is and it is his way of being a complete *** to him. Rogue booster was found out because of a snitch. It can happen to anyone use your head chief.

What I want to know is where our snitches were during the blatant cheating going on with CJ Johnson, Jermaine Whitehead and others in early 2011. Are does the NCAA not care about anything that doesn't happen in Memphis?

 

[fishwater99]

Steve is and idiot and so is the Booster....

 

[engie]

"you're on probation from bowl games". What's the deal with that?

Probation - a period of testing one's behavior, trial, audition, experimentation, test

Serious misuse of the word there, chief.

This is NOWHERE NEAR bowl ban material. It is not even CLOSE to that level of seriousness. Even throwing that out there is ignorance no better than what rosebauxl is throwing against a wall.

We may get 1 or 2 yrs of probation. We may lose 1 or 2 scholarships for one season. We will likely lose a few visits. Redmond may not be allowed to redshirt or play this season, basically giving him the Sidney treatment, and burning a year of eligibility. That is the extent of it in our worst case scenario.

Read these articles, then ask yourself if our violations were this serious, then read the punishment faced. Ours will be much less severe than this.
http://outkickthecoverage.com/south-carolina-latest-sec-school-to-face-ncaa-sanctions.php
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-footba...-carolina-ncaa-sanctions-probation-punishment

 

[dawgs.sixpack]

if we self-reported this and took action once anyone outside of the booster and miranda knew about it, then it sounds like the sytem worked. sure maybe we get a slap on the wrist (lose a few visits or something) and the standard "probationary period", but if the ncaa wants to promote self-reporting, then they won't hammer us. otherwise, what's the point in self-reporting? we also took action on the booster (disassociation) and the coach (resignation), what more can we do? we can't control every rogue booster or even a rogue coach who wants to act on his on directive, all we can do is do what's right in the aftermath once we know what's happened, and that seems to be that case here.

 

[FlabLoser]

auchamps wrote: Steve, what did Mississippi State do? Why did the WR coach resign? I guess we'll both be on probation. We can call our game the "probation bowl".

Everything I am hearing about MSU and Will Redmond involved a third party booster. This idiot reached out to the kid and had him come to his tailgate, sent him clothes and directed him to a used car dealer who would give him a discount on a used Mustang.

The staff member was aware and did not report it. He was a rookie coach who was eager to land his first big fish, so he turned a blind eye to it.

There will be probation. It may only be a year or two, but there will be some sort of sanctions and rightfully so.

FOXSports/Scout.com
[email protected]
http://twitter.com/#!/ScoutSteveR​

Where did this communication from Steve come from?

 

[KurtRambis4]

This booster

is most def. an idiot, but I'm not saying rosebowl isn't.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

I think it's safe to say we're going to get penalties for the Redmond ****. We fired the WR coach 2 weeks before the kickoff. That move was reactionary to something. What I'm hearing is that the firing was the result of an "agreement" between us and the NCAA about the rules violation and the appropriate penalties. In other words, we cooperated.

Bbbbut Peachbowl said Mirando's departure had to do with a co-ed?

Which would make him/her ofer 2012.

 

[OleYeller]

Hmmm, a couple of things. The booster let him come to his tailgate and sent him some clothes. Seems pretty minor to me. Was the used car dealer a booster? If not, I see no problem there. He can give a discount to whomever he wants. The coach? Whenever we found out about it, he was let go. Seems like institutional control to me. If the car dealer is not an MSU booster, then I don't see a lot of problems here. Note to boosters: Just give your money to the atletic department and let them handle recruiting. They get paid for this.

 

[ArrowDawg]

if we self-reported this and took action once anyone outside of the booster and miranda knew about it, then it sounds like the sytem worked. sure maybe we get a slap on the wrist (lose a few visits or something) and the standard "probationary period", but if the ncaa wants to promote self-reporting, then they won't hammer us. otherwise, what's the point in self-reporting? we also took action on the booster (disassociation) and the coach (resignation), what more can we do? we can't control every rogue booster or even a rogue coach who wants to act on his on directive, all we can do is do what's right in the aftermath once we know what's happened, and that seems to be that case here.

Exactly how I feel. I don't know what the NCAA expects a program to do. They certainly can't control every booster. The only thing they can do is report it if they find out and take all of the appropriate actions. If they do, they should be commended not punished.

 

[Aladawg30]

Where did this communication from Steve come from?

AU coworker decided he needed to print it out and hand it to me today. Didn't ask where it came from. My guess would be AU Scout site's premium board. That's usually where he finds his "inside information."

 

[AssEndDawg]

Exactly how I feel. I don't know what the NCAA expects a program to do. They certainly can't control every booster. The only thing they can do is report it if they find out and take all of the appropriate actions. If they do, they should be commended not punished.

If Mirando knew and didn't report it that blows your whole theory out of the water. That's where we will face the punishment.

 

[Dawgology]

I was asking a question citing two extreme ends of the spectrum not making a comment on what I thought the probation would include. I wasn't commenting on what I thought the punishment would be. There is a generality to the word "probation" when applied to ncaa investigations. It can mean many things in their selective enforcement and penalty applications. Simmer down....

 

[gravedigger]

So, by that logic, any ******** in society is not really a ******** because other towns have them too, no?

 

[OleYeller]

If he (booster) is not an idiot, then he certainly has more money then brains.

 

[OleYeller]

And I was wondering the same thing

 

[OleYeller]

What theory? And why?

 

[maroonmania]

If Mirando knew and didn't report it that blows your whole theory out of the water. That's where we will face the punishment.

No, we will face punishment because apparently we found out about it and instead of dealing with Mirando in house as needed we had to run self report it to the NCAA which NO OTHER PROGRAMS DO. Unless we knew that someone was going to turn us in on this we were quite stupid to self report it in my book. I can assure you no other SEC school would self report a significant violation.