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Why not? He had four 9 win seasons and three 10 win seasons at Nebraska in seven years. And his baggage is he was caught dogging fans for leaving games earlier. I can handle that for 10 wins a year.
Dan doesn’t want to go to Tennessee. He’s using it as leverage. I’d call his bluff. I love Mullen but let’s get real he’s not worth top 10 pay.
The overpaying for college football coaches has gotten crazy. When Dan was hired I think we paid him about $1.5Mper year. Now it might be $6M? That’s crazy. No coach is worth that much unless he’s won a national title. Dan’s lost to Ole Miss three out of the last four years. And were it not for Dak’s heroics in 2013, it would be four losses in five years.
Saban is probably worth that much. He brings in more money for Alabama than they pay him.
Dan's HC success has been blown way out of proportion because of the national perception of our football program before he got there. The guy is stable and can be depended on for respectable results but I think he would be a giant bust at a program looking for championships.
He's really good and it's worth it to us to overpay right now because of what we have coming back and the potential to clean up in recruiting the next few years.
If you look at the increase in ticket sales, Coke’s and MSU merchandise sale increases and increased donations to the MSU foundation and bulldog club since Mullen has been coach it will be quickly apparent that Mullen is worth every penny of $6 mil....
Damn, talk about being between a rock and a hard place. That's some ridiculous cash, but considering the class coming in and 18 starters coming back, it almost has to be done.
If we pony up and pay him top 10 money no more excuses on the recruiting trail. No more excuses for losing games we should win. He wants big boy money, he better understand big boy coaching will be expected.
I love dan but I feel like we’re being played and don’t know if I can forgive him for this.
I love dan but I feel like we’re being played and don’t know if I can forgive him for this.
Compared to the money that man has pumped into our local economy, 7M is a basement bargain. Pay him.
Completely agree with you. If we’re paying him top 10 money, 4-4 or worse SEC records (which we’ve had all but one of his 9 seasons) are no longer good enough. Losing 3 out of 4 to Ole Miss, with two of those losses coming as a heavy favorite, isn’t good enough. His terrible record against top 25 teams has to improve. For top 10 money, we need better results.
OK look, I believe we may have underpaid him for the majority of his time here thus far and if we overpay for a couple of years so be it. If it does go to six, I don’t see his name brought up in the near future because he will have been priced out of all but a couple of jobs, ones we wouldn’t blame him for going to.
If we are about to truly pay his assistants to the point that we have some stability on both sides of the locker room and trust Dan to complete the foundation and build on this idea of MSU having a true elite program in the SEC...hell im all for seeing at least how that experiment turns out. If nothing else our program will be in better shape when we offer the next guy 3-4 mil in 4 or 5 years. Talk about perception changing in the coaching pool considering moving their family to Starkville!
If we are about to truly pay his assistants to the point that we have some stability on both sides of the locker room and trust Dan to complete the foundation and build on this idea of MSU having a true elite program in the SEC...hell im all for seeing at least how that experiment turns out. If nothing else our program will be in better shape when we offer the next guy 3-4 mil in 4 or 5 years. Talk about perception changing in the coaching pool considering moving their family to Starkville!
Money might talk. He makes $3.5M now with a contract that takes him to $4M in 2023. We could beat that if we needed to, but I don't think Dan's leaving.
I feel like we’re on the cusp of changing the national perception of Mississippi State. Paying him $6 mil a year is borderline absurd, but its also making a statement. On top of that, having to go through hiring another coach could set us back years. Even the most sure-fire candidate could potentially be a bust, and I’m not sure how many sure-fire candidates there are right now.
I say pay him and see what happens. If we didn’t lose Fitz last night we’d be 9-3, borderline top 10, and looking at having an even better team next season. Ask Florida State how losing an experienced QB and having to replace him with a true freshmen can go.
Exactly. Some people on here act like msu is asking them to personally pay dan’s salary. I don’t give a 17 if we pay him $8 million a year as long as he keeps winning. He’s winning a better rate than anyone has ever done and he’s changed the perception of state. Pay him and pay him whatever he wants for assistants.
For 7 mils a year, forget beating just Ole Miss and Arky.....he would have to beat bama at least every Other year. He Hasn't beaten them once. I would rather pay $3 mils to an up and coming coach and use the other mil and a half for Better assistants who stay longer than a year. I don't like giving raises to a coach after a losing season like last year nor after an egg bowl loss. If we pay him a top 10 salary then dammit I expect a top 10 program!
He can’t even beat Ole Miss. 2-4 since Nutt was fired and lost three out of four. Yes I’m still bitter about last night.
We were a Fitz injury or 5 turnovers away from being a top 12ish team on Monday. Neither of those are on Dan. Us being in the position to do that is on him.
In my opinion, we’re at too delicate of a crossroads to roll the dice on an up and coming coach in order to save $3 mil. Its not like our athletic budget is barely in the green every year.
VT would counter, if needed. Fuente is a guy more in the mold of a Bill Snyder, Frank Beamer, Joe Pa, etc.
Memphis was never a "destination school" for him, but VT is for him. He really likes it there. VT is a great job.
Memphis was never a "destination school" for him, but VT is for him. He really likes it there. VT is a great job.
********. If he loses to Ole miss another time or 2 in the next couple of years he won’t be worth $500,000.
There are some truly ridiculous opinions in this thread.
Losing to Ole Miss sucks. I hate it. But statements like "for top 10 money I expect top 10 results!" as if coaches salary is the only factor are just absurd. You're not paying Mullen a top-10 salary because he's necessarily one of the top 10 coaches in the country. You pay him that because he's built this program from a cellar dweller to a top-half SEC program in a given year. Because he's gone to 8 straight bowl games when the previous school record was THREE IN A ROW. Sure it's easier to go to bowl games now and it took a miracle to go last year. But the fact is that last year was a true outlier- the worst season since his first- and we won 6 games.
Mullen has raised our floor. He's raised our ceiling and averaged 8 wins per year for 8 years. What's the longest time frame in school history in which you can say we averaged 8 wins per year? Someone else can look it up but I'd venture to say it's not more than 3-4 years. He's got this thing rolling like never before.
But you know what the best part is? The arrow is still trending up! Next year looks like it could be his best team yet. He'll sign a top-20 class in 2018, and the 2019 class in MS is the best in a long time and we're in great position to take the lion's share of it.
Ultimately, you'll pay him a top 10 salary because if you don't, someone else will. Guaranteed. And then where are we? Rolling the dice on someone else. Scrambling to keep our recruiting class together. No thanks. I'll take the sure thing.
Losing to Ole Miss sucks. I hate it. But statements like "for top 10 money I expect top 10 results!" as if coaches salary is the only factor are just absurd. You're not paying Mullen a top-10 salary because he's necessarily one of the top 10 coaches in the country. You pay him that because he's built this program from a cellar dweller to a top-half SEC program in a given year. Because he's gone to 8 straight bowl games when the previous school record was THREE IN A ROW. Sure it's easier to go to bowl games now and it took a miracle to go last year. But the fact is that last year was a true outlier- the worst season since his first- and we won 6 games.
Mullen has raised our floor. He's raised our ceiling and averaged 8 wins per year for 8 years. What's the longest time frame in school history in which you can say we averaged 8 wins per year? Someone else can look it up but I'd venture to say it's not more than 3-4 years. He's got this thing rolling like never before.
But you know what the best part is? The arrow is still trending up! Next year looks like it could be his best team yet. He'll sign a top-20 class in 2018, and the 2019 class in MS is the best in a long time and we're in great position to take the lion's share of it.
Ultimately, you'll pay him a top 10 salary because if you don't, someone else will. Guaranteed. And then where are we? Rolling the dice on someone else. Scrambling to keep our recruiting class together. No thanks. I'll take the sure thing.
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