Steve R on OOB

[QuaoarsKing]

If Steve knew a change was coming, would he say so? I doubt it.

 

[Dawg1976]

4-8 and no change? Good lord….we are screwed.

 

[ronpolk]

I'm getting old. If I see a chance at a good season, I want to capitalize on that change, even if it's not long term. I wish we had done that before the 2018 and 2023 seasons as well, but we made bad decisions both times. I don't want to screw this one up.

If we suck in 2028, and we will, you fire him. Then rebuild the roster quickly. It's worth it to have a possible playoff run in 2027.

Unfortunately, this is the way. Now I would still be asking kamario if he’s willing to play for someone else, but if he’s not I’m running it back with Lebby. As much as I hate that.

 

[MStateDawg]

He's clueless. Why does anyone listen to him?

Not sure if you're talking about Steve or Bo.
Not sure it matters.
Your statement is applicable to both.

 

[Walkthedawg]

Matt Wyatt said the same in his video last night. Said "this just doesn't FEEL like a situation where you make a change". low expectations

And that's outrageous. No other program in major college football would be wishy washy at this point

 

[QuaoarsKing]

I hate the framing of "but what if Kamario refuses to play for anyone but Lebby??"

There's no evidence that that is the case, yet it's taken as the default assumption to argue against in this whole discussion

 

[civildawg88]

And that's outrageous. No other program in major college football would be wishy washy at this point

Our boosters suck man. I hate being a fan of this team. We let coaches stay WAY longer than any other school in the country. Hopefully after Ole miss skulldrags us then our admin will wake up

 

[GrassDrills]

Not going to bury the lead here, he says he does not anticipate a coaching change

He's talking about Auburn. That's where his source resides

 

[GoDawgz52]

Our boosters suck man. I hate being a fan of this team. We let coaches stay WAY longer than any other school in the country. Hopefully after Ole miss skulldrags us then our admin will wake up

Had a convo this morning with one of the said "boosters", who is way up in the mix of things at State.
I stated as a fan, its time for Lebby to go, to which she said, "well thats gonna take money to but him out, are you gonna send money for that?"
I said, " im not gonna send one red penny to pay someone for their failure to do the job that he was paid to do, they don t need my $10, they got plenty of money!"
She said, "well you shouldn't make that comment then if you aren't gonna donate."
They are ok with him staying.
Apathy is a disease.

 

[615dawg]

Had a convo this morning with one of the said "boosters", who is way up in the mix of things at State.
I stated as a fan, its time for Lebby to go, to which she said, "well thats gonna take money to but him out, are you gonna send money for that?"
I said, " im not gonna send one red penny to pay someone for their failure to do the job that he was paid to do, they don t need my $10, they got plenty of money!"
She said, "well you shouldn't make that comment then if you aren't gonna donate."
They are ok with him staying.
Apathy is a disease.

The boosters love Lebby. We may not be doing Road Dawgs tours with the little people, but the big boosters have a lot of access to Lebby and the football program and they LOVE IT.

You know who did not give them the access? Mullen and Leach.

We simply have people that are fine with 4-8 as long as their grandkids can get photos on the field and get signed footballs from Ant and KT.

 

[Cancellerius]

Well, to be perfectly honest, if Kamario doesn't want a coaching change, there likely won't be a coaching change. Kamario is the 'Jimmy Chitwood' to our 'Norman Dale' (Lebby). Except of course Lebby couldn't hold a candle to Dale in building a winning program. Apparently for Lebby's offense to work you need an All-American QB. How many years will we have one of those?

Throwing this on Kamario (not saying anyone is or isn't) sucks. What does anyone expect him to say? "yea, Lebby sucks, get someone else"

 

[FactCheckerBot]

Had a convo this morning with one of the said "boosters", who is way up in the mix of things at State.
I stated as a fan, its time for Lebby to go, to which she said, "well thats gonna take money to but him out, are you gonna send money for that?"
I said, " im not gonna send one red penny to pay someone for their failure to do the job that he was paid to do, they don t need my $10, they got plenty of money!"
She said, "well you shouldn't make that comment then if you aren't gonna donate."
They are ok with him staying.
Apathy is a disease.

Fact:

If she is indicative of the powers-that-be, then prepare to be the laughing stock of college football next season. My calculations say MSU will have to pay more than others for decent players in the portal to hide Libby’s ineptitude. Pay extra for semi-decent OL to protect the superstar QB and then extra for WRs to risk their season on a QB to last all season behind a subpar OL.
The players hurt the most by KT’s injury are the WRs who were promised an opportunity to show out.

Basically, let’s hope your friend is full of it.

 

[Bulldawg77]

Had a convo this morning with one of the said "boosters", who is way up in the mix of things at State.
I stated as a fan, its time for Lebby to go, to which she said, "well thats gonna take money to but him out, are you gonna send money for that?"
I said, " im not gonna send one red penny to pay someone for their failure to do the job that he was paid to do, they don t need my $10, they got plenty of money!"
She said, "well you shouldn't make that comment then if you aren't gonna donate."
They are ok with him staying.
Apathy is a disease.

SHE?? No offense but the power folks aren’t a she

 

[The Peeper]

The boosters love Lebby. We may not be doing Road Dawgs tours with the little people, but the big boosters have a lot of access to Lebby and the football program and they LOVE IT.

You know who did not give them the access? Mullen and Leach.

We simply have people that are fine with 4-8 as long as their grandkids can get photos on the field and get signed footballs from Ant and KT.

I find that hard to believe. Who actually wants "access to him", to stand next to a failed head coach (11-23 record) that looks homeless 90% of the time w/ a neck beard and messed up lid, and have a permanent record taken of them apparently supporting him? That's ludicrous

 

[OG Goat Holder]

failed head coach (11-23 record) that looks homeless 90% of the time w/ a neck beard and messed up lid,

Legit LOL, water on the computer

 

[Perd Hapley]

If Steve has the pulse of the admin, we need to root for Tenn Tech

Steve has absolutely never had the pulse of the admin, so this point is null and void.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

The boosters love Lebby. We may not be doing Road Dawgs tours with the little people, but the big boosters have a lot of access to Lebby and the football program and they LOVE IT.

You know who did not give them the access? Mullen and Leach.

We simply have people that are fine with 4-8 as long as their grandkids can get photos on the field and get signed footballs from Ant and KT.

Pretty good gig until the little people revolt

They are really hoping for Heavy Lenny to pull a miracle vs either Auburn or Ole Miss

 

[golferdog]

If Kamario says he only stays if Lebby is here in 2027 then you have to roll the dice with Lebby one more year. It would be stupid to lose a generational talent like Kamario to make a change when we see how KT can fluorish in this system if healthy. BUT, somebody has to FORCE Lebby to get a serviceable backup behind KT for 2027. With our current OL personnel and coaching issues, probably better than 50/50 chance that KT won't make it healthy through 2027 either. KT is not built highly durable like I'm seeing with guys like Arch and Leavitt. His frame is too thin.

I would make him gain some weight for durability. Make him gain 10-20 lbs. even if it slows him down some. No NFL Team is going to draft him 1st round if he keeps getting injured.

 

[GoDawgz52]

SHE?? No offense but the power folks aren’t a she

Well....for what its worth....SHE is married to a HE and THEY are well up in the booster world.

 

[GoDawgz52]

Fact:

If she is indicative of the powers-that-be, then prepare to be the laughing stock of college football next season. My calculations say MSU will have to pay more than others for decent players in the portal to hide Libby’s ineptitude. Pay extra for semi-decent OL to protect the superstar QB and then extra for WRs to risk their season on a QB to last all season behind a subpar OL.
The players hurt the most by KT’s injury are the WRs who were promised an opportunity to show out.

Basically, let’s hope your friend is full of it.

I agree....and I hope she is wrong too.

 

[Villagedawg]

Throwing this on Kamario (not saying anyone is or isn't) sucks. What does anyone expect him to say? "yea, Lebby sucks, get someone else"

Correct. Not his call to make. You don't put it on him. It's like asking the new hire if you need to fire the HR manager. You make the call you need to make for the future of the program no matter who stays or transfers.

 

[HailStout]

SHE?? No offense but the power folks aren’t a she

Yes, because I am definitely the power broker in my household

 

[RocketDawg]

Maybe the Selmon connection to Oklahoma/Lebby is must stronger than we think. Me being zero in the know, that connection seems to be the only reason Lebby was hired in the first place.

 

[RocketDawg]

I would make him gain some weight for durability. Make him gain 10-20 lbs. even if it slows him down some. No NFL Team is going to draft him 1st round if he keeps getting injured.

If that's an issue, I could give him some tips on how to gain weight.

 

[Seinfeld]

I am not often certain of much, but I do feel comfortably certain that Zac Selmon is not divulging the details of his hiring/firing decisions to this guy

 

[Allday.sixpack]

Selmon will likely retain Lebby. Although he will have one of the lowest SEC winning records (3-23 12%) of any Head Coach after 3 years.

That’s the problem when AD’s hire their friends.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

Steve R is not making the layups.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

OM folks tell me Steve smells like cabbage, is that true?

 

[She Mate Me]

A wasftly I would imagine if Lebby is on the chopping block, only a few in the AD department knows along with some boosters who Selmon needs to get money from not only for the buyout bur also money for new coach,

Exactly. If they’re moving down the road of firing a HC, Rose Bowl ain’t on the list of “need to know” folks.

 

[Blitz83]

If Steve knew a change was coming, would he say so? I doubt it.

If he did it would be after all of His commercials and his music segment.. I quit listening to him a long time ago.

 

[John Deaux VII]

OM folks tell me Steve smells like cabbage, is that true?

He looks like he smells like the Devil's Cabbage (not that theres anythign wrong with that). Anytime I'm with my son and we get a whiff of it in a conveience store parking lot or someplace like that I just tell him its a skunk.

 

[STATEgrad04]

I am not often certain of much, but I do feel comfortably certain that Zac Selmon is not divulging the details of his hiring/firing decisions to this guy

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[BulldawgFan]

Steve has absolutely never had the pulse of the admin, so this point is null and void.

Correct. Steve’s financial wellbeing is directly tied to his access to MSU officials. If he were to burn that bridge he’d lose what little credibility he has.

He’s nothing but an MSU mouthpiece. A “useful idiot” as it were.

 

[kired]

It might be that Lebby is on the cusp but a win against AU turns the heat slightly down. AU and Tenn Tech are must wins.

win against AU

 

[GiantInternetAsshole]

If Kamario says he only stays if Lebby is here in 2027 then you have to roll the dice with Lebby one more year. It would be stupid to lose a generational talent like Kamario to make a change when we see how KT can fluorish in this system if healthy. BUT, somebody has to FORCE Lebby to get a serviceable backup behind KT for 2027. With our current OL personnel and coaching issues, probably better than 50/50 chance that KT won't make it healthy through 2027 either. KT is not built highly durable like I'm seeing with guys like Arch and Leavitt. His frame is too thin.

While it may be stupid to roll the dice on losing a generational talent, it’s clinically retarded to let a coach spend $70M-$80M on bad players due to missed evaluations over the next two seasons and give said coach an extension which would push his buyout to north of $10M. That’s not even mentioning he’ll have to be trusted to replace his buddies Loadholt and Odom with actual football coaches.

There’s a whole hell of a lot of assuming you have to do to get Jeff Lebby to be a good head coach in the SEC at any point over the next 2 years, because there isn’t anything that says he’s capable of doing it.

 

[GiantInternetAsshole]

I am not often certain of much, but I do feel comfortably certain that Zac Selmon is not divulging the details of his hiring/firing decisions to this guy

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I’d say they have lunch together, but we know Steve skips lunch for scoops***